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Stihl AS 2 Battery Replacement with Parkside X12V: Compatibility, Adapter Build, Safety

User question

how to replace a stihl AS2 battery with a parkside X12V ?

Artificial Intelligence Response

Direct answer to the question

  • You cannot drop-in replace a Stihl AS 2 battery with a Parkside X12V; the housings and connectors are proprietary and incompatible. However, an experienced maker can power an AS‑System tool from a Parkside X12V pack by building a mechanical/electrical adapter. Proceed only if you accept the safety, reliability, and warranty risks.
  • Key points
    • Both packs are 3‑cell Li‑ion (nominal ≈10.8 V, full ≈12.6 V), so basic voltage is compatible. The AS 2 is rated 10.8 V, 28 Wh; typical Parkside X12V 2 Ah pack is 12 V (nominal 10.8 V), 24 Wh, 3 cells. (stihl.com.au)
    • Connectors, mechanical latch, and any sense/ID pins are different and not documented for cross‑brand use.

Detailed problem analysis

  • Electrical compatibility
    • Chemistry and series count: Both are 3S Li‑ion. That means resting and loaded voltages overlap; the Stihl tool won’t be over‑ or under‑volted by a healthy Parkside pack. The AS 2’s rated values (10.8 V, 28 Wh, 2.1–2.6 Ah) confirm 3‑cell architecture; Parkside PAPK 12 A3 lists 12 V, 24 Wh, 3 cells. (stihl.com.au)
    • Current capability: Neither brand publishes continuous/peak current for these compact packs. Assume double‑digit amp peaks for tools like the GTA 26 pruner; size wiring and contacts accordingly, then validate by measurement under load.
  • Interface differences to solve
    • Mechanical: Different footprint and locking features. You need a robust adapter that presents an AS 2 “male” to the tool and accepts the Parkside X12V battery “female.”
    • Electrical: At minimum you must route B+ and B−. Many small Stihl tools also read a third “sense” (typically an NTC thermistor) from the battery; if the tool expects this and it’s missing, it may refuse to run or may disable thermal protection. Stihl/ Parkside do not publish cross‑compatibility; you must verify the pin functions with a DMM on your own packs.
    • Charging: Absolutely do not intermix chargers. Charge AS 2 only with Stihl AL 1; charge Parkside X12V only with Parkside X12V chargers. Chargers use brand‑specific safety logic. (aih.com)
  • Safety systems
    • Each pack contains a BMS (over/under‑voltage, over‑current, temp). The tool may also implement its own undervoltage/overcurrent cutback. Cross‑brand use removes coordinated protection and any temperature feedback unless you provide an equivalent signal.
  • Runtime expectations
    • With a 2.0 Ah Parkside pack (≈24 Wh) in place of a 2.6 Ah AS 2 (≈28 Wh), expect shorter runtime. Larger Parkside capacities (up to ≈5 Ah in the X12V line) exist but increase mass and mechanical stress on the adapter. (parkside-diy.com)

Current information and trends

  • Stihl AS 2 remains a 10.8 V, 28 Wh pack for the AS‑System (GTA 26, HSA 26, SEA 20, etc.). (stihl.com.au)
  • Parkside X12V Team batteries are a 3‑cell platform with multiple Ah options and an “Active Battery Management” feature; the ecosystem is marketed for light/medium tools. (parkside-diy.com)
  • No officially supported cross‑brand adapters are offered by Stihl or Parkside as of November 6, 2025.

Supporting explanations and details

  • Why the online claim “12 V vs 10.8 V mismatch” is misleading
    • “12 V class” consumer packs are almost always 3S Li‑ion (nominal 10.8/11.1 V). Both brands publish specs consistent with 3 cells; so the supply voltage under use is the same class despite different marketing names. (stihl.com.au)
  • Sense/thermistor line
    • Many compact tool packs expose a thermistor to the tool so the tool can derate/stop when the pack is hot, providing a second layer in addition to the BMS. If your Stihl tool has a third pin, you’ll either:
    • Transfer a real NTC sensor thermally bonded to the Parkside pack and wire it to the Stihl tool’s sense pin, or
    • Emulate a “normal temperature” with a fixed resistor (commonly 10 kΩ at 25 °C in the industry), accepting the loss of true thermal monitoring. Verify the real value by measuring the resistance between the sense pin and B− on a genuine AS 2 at ~25 °C.

Ethical and legal aspects

  • Using non‑OEM power sources voids warranty and can defeat safety features intended by the manufacturer.
  • In the U.S., you become the manufacturer of a modified assembly; any incident liability rests with you. Maintain clear labeling “Adapter use only – do not charge” to prevent misuse.
  • Do not sell or gift the modified device without disclosing the modification and risks.

Practical guidelines

  • Mechanical adapter
    • Model an adapter that locks positively into the Stihl tool and securely retains the Parkside pack. Use PETG or, preferably, ASA/ABS with thick walls and reinforced latch features. Avoid PLA due to heat softening.
    • Add a wide base/shoulder to distribute the battery’s weight and reduce latch stress during vibration.
  • Contacts and wiring
    • Use low‑resistance copper/brass contacts with strong spring force. Keep contact path short.
    • Use 14 AWG silicone wire (or 12 AWG if you expect high peaks); keep leads under ~100 mm to minimize drop and heating.
    • Add protection: an inline 20–25 A automotive blade fuse at the battery side of B+. Use heat‑shrink and strain relief.
  • Pin identification and mapping
    • On the Parkside battery shoe, find B+ and B− by voltage measurement.
    • On the Stihl tool socket, identify B+ and B− by continuity to the motor controller or by referencing an AS 2 installed (measure voltage on the tool’s pins).
    • If a third pin exists on the Stihl tool:
    • Measure the AS 2 battery’s sense pin to B− resistance at room temperature to infer NTC value.
    • Option A (recommended): epoxy a matching NTC bead to the Parkside pack shell and wire it to the tool’s sense pin and B−.
    • Option B (simpler but riskier): install a fixed resistor equal to the measured value; understand you lose thermal feedback.
  • Test procedure
    • Bench checks: continuity, isolation, correct polarity, sense resistance value.
    • No‑load test: Tool should start and idle without errors.
    • Light‑load test: Run for 1–2 minutes; monitor adapter temperature and voltage sag.
    • Full‑load bursts: 2–3 short cuts; confirm fuse, contacts, and latch integrity.
    • Operational limits: If the pack or adapter exceeds ~60 °C surface temperature, stop and reassess.
  • Charging discipline
    • Never back‑feed a charger through the adapter. Charge Parkside packs only in Parkside X12V chargers; charge AS 2 only in AL 1. (aih.com)

Possible disclaimers or additional notes

  • Unknowns: Stihl has not published AS‑System tool pinouts; some models might accept only two‑wire packs, others may require a sense pin. Validate on your specific tool (e.g., GTA 26, HSA 26, SEA 20). (manualslib.com)
  • Availability: Parkside batteries and chargers are generally EU‑market products; sourcing in the U.S. may be limited, and replacements/warranty support may be inconvenient. (parkside-diy.com)
  • Performance: A 2 Ah Parkside will likely yield shorter runtime than a 2.6 Ah AS 2; larger Parkside capacities improve runtime but increase mass and stress. (stihl.com.au)

Suggestions for further research

  • Measure and document the pinout on your exact Stihl tool and AS 2 battery at 20–25 °C (B+, B−, sense).
  • Examine an AS 2 battery with a thermistor probe to determine NTC nominal value and curve.
  • If you want a more robust solution, design a small PCB inside the adapter with:
    • Proper NTC interface,
    • Resettable over‑current protection (PTC) plus a blade fuse,
    • Reverse‑polarity and transient suppression (Schottky or ideal‑diode controller plus TVS).
  • Search 3D model repositories for “AS2 to X12V adapter” as a starting point; re‑engineer latch geometry to fit your specific tool.
  • Consider a dedicated external 3S tool‑grade pack with known specs if Parkside availability is a concern in the U.S.

Brief summary

  • Electrically, AS 2 and Parkside X12V are the same 3S Li‑ion class, so voltage is compatible, but the systems are not physically or electrically interchangeable without an adapter. The only safe way is to build a robust mechanical adapter, correctly map B+/B−, and satisfy any Stihl sense/temperature requirement—then validate under controlled tests. Always charge each brand’s battery with its own charger and accept the loss of OEM safety integration. (stihl.com.au)

If you share your exact Stihl tool model (e.g., GTA 26, HSA 26, SEA 20) and which Parkside X12V battery variant you have (capacity, PAPK code), I can sketch a pin map and BOM tailored to your setup.

User question

speaking of EA024006500 that fits into gta26. what is the use of the five pins ?

Artificial Intelligence Response

Direct answer to the question

  • The EA024006500 (STIHL AS 2) battery that fits the GTA 26 uses a 5‑pin interface to provide: 1) High‑current power out (B+), 2) Power return (B−), 3) Pack temperature sense (NTC thermistor), 4) Battery identification (ID resistor), and 5) A data/communication line used by the tool/charger for diagnostics and control.
  • STIHL does not publish a public pinout, but these five functions match how compact “smart” Li‑ion packs in the AS System interact with the tool and newer chargers that perform on‑board diagnostics and temperature monitoring. (stihlusa.com)

Detailed problem analysis

  • Electrical power delivery
    • Two large terminals carry the motor current: B+ provides pack voltage (3‑series Li‑ion: ≈9–12.6 V depending on state of charge), and B− is the return. The GTA 26’s peak load requires low‑resistance, high‑current contacts, hence their larger size.
  • Temperature sensing (NTC)
    • One small pin connects to an internal NTC thermistor referenced to B−. The charger and/or tool reads this to inhibit charge/use when the pack is too hot/cold and to adjust current. This aligns with STIHL’s documentation that AS‑System chargers perform battery diagnostics and temperature monitoring. (stihlusa.com)
  • Battery identification (ID)
    • A second small pin typically terminates in a fixed resistor to B− (or B+) that encodes battery family/type so only compatible packs are accepted. It prevents misapplication (e.g., wrong chemistry or voltage) and allows the tool/charger to tailor limits.
  • Communication/data
    • The fifth pin is a single‑wire bidirectional data line used by the pack’s BMS and the tool/charger to exchange information such as state‑of‑charge, fault flags, and possibly cycle/health data. The presence of “on‑board battery diagnostics” in the current AS‑System chargers strongly implies such signaling beyond simple thermistor/ID lines. Exact protocol is proprietary and undocumented publicly. (stihlusa.com)
  • Why five pins are necessary
    • Two pins are reserved for high current.
    • Three low‑level pins support safe charging/operation (temperature), ecosystem control (ID), and richer telemetry/authorization (data), enabling features like controlled fast‑charging and tool interlocks in modern systems. (stihlusa.com)

Current information and trends

  • As of November 2025, STIHL’s AS‑System continues to use the AS 2 battery in products including the GTA 26; STIHL also offers newer multi‑bay/high‑speed chargers that advertise battery diagnostics and temperature monitoring, consistent with smart‑pack signaling. (stihlusa.com)
  • Industry trend: compact tool ecosystems increasingly add identification and data lines for safety, telemetry, and to ensure compatibility; some brands add authentication. STIHL’s public literature does not confirm cryptographic authentication on AS 2, so treat it as unknown.

Supporting explanations and details

  • Practical behavior you can observe
    • B+ to B−: Pack voltage (~12.6 V full, ~10–11 V mid, ~9 V near empty under load).
    • Thermistor pin to B−: ~10 kΩ at 25 °C decreasing with warmth; chargers read this continuously.
    • ID pin to B− (or B+): fixed, temperature‑independent resistance (value proprietary).
    • Data pin to B−: normally high‑impedance; bursts of digital activity when inserted into tool/charger (seen on an oscilloscope).
  • Why a separate ID pin when there is a data pin?
    • ID provides a simple, fast, fail‑safe hardware check even if the data link or pack MCU is unpowered/faulted.

Ethical and legal aspects

  • Modifying or emulating these signals to use non‑genuine batteries can defeat safety mechanisms (thermal, over‑current) and may violate warranty and local safety regulations. Exercise caution and follow manufacturer guidance.

Practical guidelines

  • Identifying pins non‑destructively
    • Use a DMM to find B+ and B− (only on a known‑good pack).
    • Find the thermistor by measuring resistance to B− and warming the pack slightly; resistance should drop smoothly.
    • The fixed, temperature‑stable reading is the ID line.
    • The remaining small pin showing brief logic‑level pulses on insertion is the data line (verify with an oscilloscope).
  • Best practices
    • Never short small pins to power pins.
    • Do not substitute a fixed resistor for the thermistor in any adapter; you’ll remove thermal protection.
    • If designing fixtures, isolate signal lines and use series resistors/TVS for ESD protection.

Possible disclaimers or additional notes

  • STIHL does not release a public pin assignment or protocol description for EA024006500; the above functions are derived from standard practice and observable behavior with smart Li‑ion packs and AS‑System chargers. Treat exact assignments as unconfirmed unless measured on your hardware. (stihlusa.com)

Suggestions for further research

  • Capture the data line during insertion into the AL 1/AL 5‑2 charger and the GTA 26 with a logic analyzer to characterize voltage levels and timing.
  • Measure the exact ID resistor value and NTC curve (likely 10 kΩ at 25 °C; confirm beta).
  • Compare behavior across charger models (AL 1 vs AL 5‑2) to see if additional data is exchanged. (stihlusa.com)

Brief summary

  • The five pins on the EA024006500 (AS 2) battery are used for: B+, B−, NTC temperature sense, an ID resistor, and a single‑wire data/diagnostics line. This arrangement enables safe, optimized charging/use and ecosystem compatibility with the GTA 26 and AS‑System chargers that implement on‑board diagnostics and temperature monitoring. Exact pin numbers and protocol are proprietary and must be verified empirically if you’re developing adapters or test fixtures. (stihlusa.com)

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