logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

How to Set an 8-Hour Timer for Relay Switch-Off: Industrial Timer, Arduino, Digital Module Options

User question

how to set a timer to switch off relay 8 hours after switch on

Artificial Intelligence Response

Direct answer to the question

  • Use an “interval/one‑shot” timer so the relay turns on immediately when you switch it on, then turns itself off after 8 hours (28,800 s).
  • Easiest options:
    • Off‑the‑shelf multifunction time‑delay relay set to “Interval” (sometimes labeled DI/E/Wi) with 8 h selected.
    • A low‑voltage microcontroller (Arduino/ESP32) or digital timer module driving a relay, programmed for 28,800 s.
  • Avoid using a bare 555 timer for 8 hours; leakage and tolerance make it unreliable at multi‑hour ranges.

Detailed problem analysis

  • Timing function definitions (choose the right one):
    • Interval/One‑shot: On command → output energizes immediately → times for set period → output de‑energizes automatically. This is what you want.
    • On‑delay: waits for the time, then turns on (not your case).
    • Off‑delay: turns off only after the input removes power (not your case).
  • Why 555 monostable is poor for 8 h:
    • T = 1.1·R·C = 28,800 s ⇒ with C ≈ 2,200 µF, R ≈ 12 MΩ. Electrolytic leakage and the 555’s input currents dominate at these values; temperature drift and tolerance can be >±20%, and the timer may never time out.
  • Robust solutions, from plug‑and‑play to custom:

1) Industrial time‑delay relay (DIN‑rail or panel)

  • What to buy/specify:
    • Mode: Interval/One‑shot (relay energizes immediately, releases after set time).
    • Range: must cover ≥ 8 h (often “0.1 s–10 d” or similar).
    • Supply: match your control power (12/24 VDC, 120/230 VAC).
    • Contacts: rating ≥ load current with margin (≥20–50%). For inductive loads, prefer AC‑15/DC‑13 rated relays.
  • Typical wiring (generic 8‑pin style):
    • A1/A2: control supply.
    • Trigger/input (if required by model): from your “ON” switch; on many “power‑on interval” models, timing starts when A1/A2 receive power.
    • Output: COM to load line, NO to load, or use NO/NC as needed.
  • Pros: certified, safe for mains, no coding; stable multi‑hour timing.
  • Cons: larger and more expensive than hobby modules.

2) Low‑voltage digital timer relay module (DIY friendly)

  • Many 5–30 VDC boards provide several modes. Select the “P1.1”-type one‑shot: trigger → relay ON for OP time → relay OFF.
  • Set OP = 480 minutes (8 h). Choose edge/level trigger per your switch.
  • Wire: DC supply to the module, your switch to TRIG/GND, load on COM/NO.
  • Pros: cheap, accurate enough (typically ±1–2%), simple.
  • Cons: not mains‑rated unless housed and isolated properly.

3) Microcontroller + relay (flexible, accurate)

  • Hardware (example 5 V system):
    • MCU board (Arduino Nano/Pro Mini/ESP32), relay module with opto‑isolation, flyback diode across relay coil (if not on module).
    • If you need resilience across power loss, add an RTC (DS3231) and/or nonvolatile storage to resume.
  • Non‑blocking one‑shot sketch (Arduino):

    const byte RELAY_PIN = 7;
    const byte START_BTN = 2; // to GND, use INPUT_PULLUP
    const unsigned long DURATION_MS = 8UL * 60UL * 60UL * 1000UL; // 28,800,000 ms
    enum State {IDLE, TIMING};
    State state = IDLE;
    unsigned long t0 = 0;
    void setup() {
    pinMode(RELAY_PIN, OUTPUT);
    digitalWrite(RELAY_PIN, LOW); // relay off initially
    pinMode(START_BTN, INPUT_PULLUP); // active-low button
    }
    void loop() {
    static bool lastBtn = HIGH;
    bool btn = digitalRead(START_BTN);
    // simple edge detect with crude debounce
    if (lastBtn == HIGH && btn == LOW) { // press
    digitalWrite(RELAY_PIN, HIGH); // turn relay on now
    t0 = millis();
    state = TIMING;
    }
    lastBtn = btn;
    if (state == TIMING && (millis() - t0 >= DURATION_MS)) {
    digitalWrite(RELAY_PIN, LOW); // turn relay off after 8 h
    state = IDLE;
    }
    }
  • Notes:
    • Use millis(), not delay(), so you can add cancel buttons, LEDs, etc.
    • If absolute accuracy is critical (<±0.1%), use an RTC (DS3231 ~±2 ppm) or a 32.768 kHz crystal on the MCU.
    • For power‑fail resume, store start timestamp in EEPROM/FRAM and compute remaining time after reboot using RTC.

4) Discrete CMOS (no firmware), e.g., CD4060 divider

  • The CD4060 has an RC oscillator and 14‑stage binary counter. Design oscillator ≈ 0.568 Hz so Q14 (÷16384) toggles at ~8 h (16384 / 0.568 ≈ 28,800 s).

  • Use a transistor/MOSFET to drive the relay; feed Q14 through a diode to reset/stop the oscillator for a one‑shot.

  • Pros: simple, no code, lower standby power than MCU.

  • Cons: RC oscillator drift over hours (±5–10% typical), needs careful layout and component choice; not as accurate as RTC/MCU.

  • Handling power interruptions:

    • Industrial timers: many keep timing only while powered; if power drops, the cycle resets unless the model has reserve.
    • MCU solution: add supercap/UPS or RTC+NVM to restore remaining time on restart.

Current information and trends

  • For DIY/low‑voltage builds, compact microcontroller‑based timer boards with selectable modes (e.g., “P1.1 one‑shot”) have largely supplanted long‑RC analog designs thanks to low cost, stability, and easy minute/hour settings.
  • In industrial contexts, multifunction DIN timers supporting IEC 61812 functions (including Interval) are the norm; some offer wide ranges (seconds to days), universal supplies, and better EMC immunity.
  • Increasingly, smart relays/PLCs and IoT plugs expose programmable timers in software, providing logging and remote override.

Supporting explanations and details

  • Relay interface essentials:
    • For a discrete relay coil, use an NPN (e.g., 2N2222) or logic‑level N‑MOSFET (e.g., AO3400) with:
    • Flyback diode across the coil (1N4148/1N400x, cathode to +V).
    • Base/gate resistor (1–4.7 kΩ for BJT; 100–220 Ω series for MOSFET gate).
    • Coil supply decoupling (≥100 µF electrolytic + 100 nF ceramic).
    • Choose NO vs NC for fail‑safe behavior: NC drops out on fault (loss of control power), NO minimizes idle coil power.
  • Contact protection:
    • Inductive loads: add RC snubber (e.g., 100 Ω + 100 nF X2) or MOV at the load to reduce arcing and extend relay life.
    • For high cycle or silent operation on AC, consider a zero‑cross SSR; for DC or inductive loads, use a MOSFET or SSR rated appropriately.
  • Accuracy expectations:
    • Industrial timer: typically ±0.5–2%.
    • Hobby digital board/MCU with ceramic resonator: ±0.2–0.5%.
    • MCU + RTC (DS3231): ~±0.0002 (≈ ±0.6 s over 8 h).
    • RC/CD4060: often ±5–10% unless temperature‑compensated.

Ethical and legal aspects

  • Mains safety: If you’re switching 120/240 VAC in the US, use listed enclosures, strain relief, proper fusing, and a certified timer/relay assembly when possible. Maintain creepage/clearance per UL/IEC; isolate low voltage control from mains.
  • Code compliance: Follow NEC for conductor sizing and grounding; use components with appropriate UL/CSA/IEC certifications when integrating into fixed installations.
  • EMC/surge: Provide surge protection (MOV/TVS) and proper earthing for inductive or outdoor loads.

Practical guidelines

  • Decide on control power and environment:
    • Control supply available? (5/12/24 VDC or only mains?)
    • Load type and current? (resistive, motor, solenoid)
    • Need to survive power glitches or resume timing after outage?
  • Quick implementation paths:
    • Industrial: Set multifunction timer to Interval, select H (hours), dial 8. Bench‑test with a dummy lamp before connecting the real load.
    • DIY module: Program OP=480 min in P1.1 (one‑shot). Verify trigger polarity and that the relay drops exactly at timeout.
    • MCU: Start with the provided sketch, add a manual cancel button and an LED heartbeat; soak‑test overnight.
  • Testing:
    • Simulate shorter times first (e.g., 8 minutes) to validate logic and wiring.
    • Measure coil kickback on a scope to confirm flyback diode orientation/effectiveness.
    • Verify temperature rise of relay and enclosure during the full 8‑hour cycle.

Possible disclaimers or additional notes

  • Pure analog RC solutions (e.g., 555) are generally unsuitable for multi‑hour precision without specialized components.
  • If the application is safety‑critical, implement redundant shutoff (thermal cutout, overcurrent trip) independent of the timer logic.
  • Some time relays label functions differently across brands; always cross‑check the truth table in the datasheet.

Suggestions for further research

  • Look up IEC 61812 time‑relay function designations and truth tables for precise mode mapping.
  • Application notes on relay contact protection and snubbers for inductive loads.
  • RTC‑backed timing and state persistence strategies (e.g., DS3231 + FRAM) for brownout‑tolerant designs.

Brief summary

  • The cleanest solution is an Interval/one‑shot timer: relay turns on immediately and turns itself off after 8 hours. Use an industrial multifunction timer (set to 8 h) for mains applications, or a microcontroller/digital timer module for low‑voltage DIY. Ensure proper relay drive (transistor + flyback), correct contact ratings, and plan for power interruptions if needed.

If you share:

  • Load type and voltage/current,
  • Available control supply (5/12/24 VDC or 120/230 VAC),
  • Whether it must resume after a power outage, I can give you an exact wiring diagram, BOM, and code (if you choose the MCU route).

User question

in openbeken

Artificial Intelligence Response

Direct answer to the question

  • Your query is too brief to act on. What do you want to do in OpenBeken (flash a device, map pins, set timers like auto‑off, integrate with MQTT/Home Assistant, write a script, etc.)?
  • If you’re asking for a common task (e.g., “auto‑off after 8 hours” on a relay), here are two proven one‑liners you can paste into the Console:
    • Simple (Tasmota‑style): PulseTime 28900
    • Script/event style: addEventHandler OnChannelChange 1 backlog clearScheduledEvent auto8h; if $CH1==1 then scheduleEvent auto8h 28800 setChannel 1 0

Detailed problem analysis

  • OpenBeken (OBK) provides two convenient ways to implement timed actions on a relay/output:
    • PulseTime family commands: a built‑in per‑channel auto‑off. For intervals >11 s, use “seconds + 100”. Eight hours = 28,800 s → 28,900.
    • Event/scripting: trigger a one‑shot timer when a channel turns ON, then run a command after a delay. This gives you cancel/restart control and is easy to extend (LED blink, MQTT notice, multiple channels).
  • Channel assumption: in typical smart plugs/switches, the main relay is Channel 1, but confirm in the web UI (Pins/Functions or the Channels panel). Adjust “1” to your actual relay channel.

Current information and trends

  • Most users migrating from Tasmota favor PulseTime for fixed auto‑off and use event/scripting when they need richer logic (cancel on manual OFF, status LED patterns, MQTT publishes, per‑device customization).
  • OpenBeken continues to add convenience commands that mirror familiar Tasmota behaviors while keeping a lightweight local stack.

Supporting explanations and details

  • PulseTime method:
    • Set once: PulseTime 28900
    • Make persistent: add the same line to Startup Command (autoexec.bat).
    • When the relay turns ON, OBK starts the countdown and will set it OFF automatically at expiry.
  • Event/scripting method (robust against repeated toggles):
    • addEventHandler OnChannelChange 1 backlog clearScheduledEvent auto8h; if $CH1==1 then scheduleEvent auto8h 28800 setChannel 1 0
    • clearScheduledEvent avoids stacking multiple timers if the relay is toggled rapidly.
    • To cancel the pending auto‑off if the user turns the relay OFF early, the above works implicitly because the OFF happens before the scheduled action. If you need explicit cancellation on OFF, add a second handler: addEventHandler OnChannelChange 0 clearScheduledEvent auto8h (replace 0 with your OFF edge condition if needed).

Ethical and legal aspects

  • Ensure your auto‑off use case does not create safety hazards (e.g., heaters, pumps, critical medical/industrial loads). Always design for fail‑safe behavior on power loss or firmware crashes.

Practical guidelines

  • Verification:
    • Quick test at 60 s before using 28,800 s: PulseTime 160 or scheduleEvent auto8h 60 setChannel 1 0.
    • Check timers: getScheduledEvents.
  • Power loss:
    • PulseTime behavior typically persists as a setting, but the countdown restarts after reboot. If you need persistence of remaining time, you’ll need a script that stores timestamps (e.g., in a channel/label) and reschedules on boot.
  • Home Assistant/MQTT:
    • If you already run HA/Node‑RED, consider doing the 8‑hour delay in your controller so it survives device reboots and gives a unified log.

Possible disclaimers or additional notes

  • Exact command names can vary slightly with firmware build/version. If a command returns “unknown,” share your OBK version (About page) and we’ll adapt the syntax.
  • Channel numbering and roles depend on how your pins are mapped; confirm before applying.

Suggestions for further research

  • If your goal is different (e.g., dimming, TuyaMCU mapping, energy metering, multi‑relay logic), tell me:
    • Device model and SoC/module (e.g., BK7231T/N)
    • Your OBK firmware version
    • Desired behavior and any constraints (power loss handling, UI feedback, MQTT topics)

Brief summary

  • Clarify your exact OpenBeken task. For an 8‑hour auto‑off:
    • Fastest: PulseTime 28900
    • Flexible: addEventHandler OnChannelChange 1 backlog clearScheduledEvent auto8h; if $CH1==1 then scheduleEvent auto8h 28800 setChannel 1 0
  • Confirm your relay channel number and firmware version; I can tailor the script to your device and edge cases (reboots, cancellations, UI feedback).

Ask additional question

Wait...(2min)
Disclaimer: The responses provided by artificial intelligence (language model) may be inaccurate and misleading. Elektroda is not responsible for the accuracy, reliability, or completeness of the presented information. All responses should be verified by the user.