User question
firmware για 17MB825 με panel VES400UNDS-03
Artificial Intelligence Response
Direct answer to the question
- It is very likely that “17MB825” is a mistyping/reading of Vestel 17MB82S (or 17MB82‑2/1A). For panel VES400UNDS‑03 you must use a 17MB82‑family firmware that contains the exact panel profile for VES400UNDS‑03. If you only need the USB “core” update, use the 17MB8X forced‑update method (OK on the remote while powering on). If the set is dead or looping, program the SPI flash ICs (U10/U12) with the correct dumps for 17MB82 + VES400UNDS‑xx. Evidence: service/update procedure for 17MB8X/MB82; Vestel service‑menu code; and field cases with 17MB82/95 + VES400UNDS‑03. (elektroda.com)
- I can help you locate the exact package if you share the TV brand/model, the long Vestel barcode (23xxxxxx), and a photo of the mainboard’s white label showing “17MB82…”.
Detailed problem analysis
- Why the exact pairing matters
- Vestel images are keyed to both the mainboard family (17MB82/82S/82‑2 vs 17MB95/97/…) and to the panel timing/EDID profile (e.g., VES400UNDS‑03 or VES400UNDS‑2D‑N11). A mismatch gives inverted/mirrored picture, wrong colors, no backlight, or boot failure. Industry guidance stresses “per mainboard + per panel timing.” (elektroda.com)
- Clarifying the board code
- “17MB825” is not a standard Vestel designation; in practice technicians commonly encounter 17MB82S, 17MB82‑2, 17MB82‑1A, etc. Multiple shops and dumps list 17MB82‑x with 40" VES400UNDS panels, which aligns with your panel code. (tvkarti.net)
- VES400UNDS‑03 on Vestel mainboards
- There are documented cases of VES400UNDS‑03 paired with Vestel 17MB82/95 boards across several brands (Finlux, Funai/Telefunken, etc.). This confirms that a correct 17MB82‑family image for VES400UNDS‑03 exists, even if distribution is controlled (Servicenet/authorized channels) and public links are scarce. (poszukaj.elektroda.pl)
- Memory devices you may need to program
- 17MB82‑family typically uses two SPI flashes, e.g., U10 (Winbond 25Q16 or 25Q32) and U12 (Winbond 25Q64). For hard‑brick/boot‑loop conditions, writing known‑good U10/U12 binaries matched to your board/panel rev is the reliable path. (remont-aud.net)
- Where firmware really lives
- Official images are distributed via Vestel Servicenet and brand partners (Toshiba/JVC/Hitachi/Telefunken) for the exact variant. Independent forums host dumps by board + panel code when official access is unavailable. (elektroda.com)
Current information and trends
- Forced USB update method for Vestel 17MB8X/MB82 families:
- Prepare FAT32 USB, copy the package (commonly upgrade_loader.pkg or MB82.bin) to root, plug USB, hold OK on remote while applying AC power until fast LED blink; update starts automatically. This method is current and repeatedly cited in recent service threads and docs. (elektroda.com)
- Commercial signage variants (Android/Vestel SoC) use similar “OK while powering on” and may require .imi/.img plus hdcpkeys folder; useful when the board is an Android‑based Vestel. (docs.signageos.io)
Supporting explanations and details
- Identifying the exact targets
- Read labels: mainboard silkscreen “17MB82…”, long Vestel barcode (23xxxxxx), panel sticker “VES400UNDS‑03.” If the TV shows picture, MENU → 4725 (or MENU → Picture → 9301 on some brands) → Service → Board/Panel Info. (masterelectronicsrepair.blogspot.com)
- Typical file sets you may encounter
- USB “core” update: single file upgrade_loader.pkg (or MB82.bin). Forced loader updates bootloader/mboot and core without altering panel/user profiles.
- Full dumps: paired BINs for U10/U12 (SPI) containing boot, app, NVM, and panel profiles; these must match board and panel. (elektroda.com)
- After a successful boot but wrong image
- Use Service Menu (MENU → 4725) to set Panel Type exactly to VES400UNDS‑03 (or the precise Nxx variant shown on your panel label). If mirrored, look for “Mirror/Flip” and LVDS mapping options. (masterelectronicsrepair.blogspot.com)
Ethical and legal aspects
- Vestel and brand‑label firmware are copyrighted. Obtain images via authorized portals (Servicenet, distributors) or use dumps you are licensed/allowed to use for repair. Avoid sharing paid content from service sites. (elektroda.com)
- Preserve original HDCP keys when present; do not overwrite the hdcpkeys folder unless the package explicitly includes keys for your unit. (docs.signageos.io)
Practical guidelines
- What to send me so I can pinpoint the exact package
- Photos of: mainboard label (showing 17MB82… and 23xxxxxx), panel label (full VES400UNDS‑03 code), and the TV back label (brand/model/serial).
- Describe current state: boots to logo? standby blink? backlight only?
- Step‑by‑step recovery path
1) Soft path (forced USB):
- USB 4–8 GB, FAT32, copy correct update (upgrade_loader.pkg or MB82.bin) to root.
- Unplug TV, insert USB, hold OK on remote, apply AC, release when LED blinks fast; wait for completion. (elektroda.com)
2) Hard path (programmer):
- Desolder or clip‑program U10 (25Q16/25Q32) and U12 (25Q64) with matched dumps for 17MB82 + VES400UNDS‑03. Verify with read‑back/compare before power‑up. (remont-aud.net)
3) Post‑boot alignment:
- Service Menu (MENU → 4725), set exact Panel Type; confirm LVDS mapping and Mirror if needed. (masterelectronicsrepair.blogspot.com)
- Best practices
- Stable AC supply; do not interrupt flashing.
- Keep backups of original SPI contents.
- Use short, known‑good USB 2.0 sticks; some sets are picky. (elektroda.com)
Possible disclaimers or additional notes
- If your board is actually 17MB95/97/110/120, the package differs; never cross‑flash between MB82 and MB95 families. Use only images explicitly listing your board and panel code. (elektroda.com)
- Public “generic” packages rarely include every panel; lack of the exact VES400UNDS‑03 profile will cause image faults even if the TV boots.
Suggestions for further research
- Check brand‑specific support (e.g., Toshiba/JVC/Hitachi variants of your model) and authorized parts distributors; provide them with your 23xxxxxx board PN and panel code to get the zip. (elektroda.com)
- Forum archives for “17MB82” + “VES400UNDS‑03” (Elektroda/Badcaps/Elforum) often host working BIN dumps when official access is not available. (poszukaj.elektroda.pl)
Brief summary
- Most likely you need a 17MB82‑family firmware for panel VES400UNDS‑03, not “17MB825.” Try the forced USB update first with the correct 17MB8X/MB82 package; if the set is bricked, program U10/U12 with matched dumps. After boot, set the exact Panel Type in Service Menu (MENU → 4725). Share your TV brand/model and the board/panel labels, and I will identify the exact package and the safest flashing method for your unit. (elektroda.com)
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