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Converting dB to Voltage Ratio (V/V) and Reverse: Understanding the Formulas

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  • #1 3024899
    raper1987
    Level 1  
    As in the question whether it is possible to convert the logaytmic scale to linear and vice versa (V / V to dB and dB to V / V). If there is such a possibility, please provide which formulas how to convert it.
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  • #2 3024946
    Konsul
    Level 23  
    X [dB] = 20log (V1 [V] / V2 [V]) - it is one way and the other way:
    V1 [V] / V2 [V] = 20 ^ (X [dB] / 20)

    The logarithm is decimal and with the power before the logarithm it is 10, not 20.
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  • #3 3024948
    zas
    Level 16  
    Hello
    The logarithmic scale is different from the linear distribution of the points on the axis, in the linear you have the sequence points at the same intervals, e.g. 1,2, ..., 9,10,11, ..., 20,21, ... etc and in the scale logarithmic in these male intervals you have 1,2, ..., 9,10,20, ..., 90,100,200, ... etc.
    When it comes to dB, in them you express some ratio of two signals, e.g. gain or attenuation. If it is a ratio of two voltages, e.g. Uwej / Uwyj, then notice that you have V / V and if you want in dB, you have to log it 20log (Uwej / Uwyj).

    I think so, if I am wrong, please correct me :)

    greetings
  • #4 3025189
    jony
    Electronics specialist
    Colleague Consul was wrong.
    It has to be like this
    V1 [V] / V2 [V] = 10 ^ (X [dB] / 20)

    So we have, for example, Ku = 40dB, we calculate it
    10 ^ (40/20) = 10 ^ 2 = 10? = 100V / V
    Ku [db] = 70dB
    ku [V / V] = 10 ^ (70/20) = 10 ^ 3.5 = 3162V / V

    Ku [db] = - 30dB
    Ku [V / V] = 10 ^ (- 30/20) = 10 ^ -1.5 = 0.0315V / V

    And if we have a gain of 20V / V then
    we recalculate as given by a colleague above.
    Ku [V / V] = 20 * logKu = Ku [dB]
    so we count
    Ku [V / V] = 20V / V
    Ku [db] = 20 * log20V / V = 20 * 1.3 = 26dB

    Ku [V / V = 450V / V
    Ku [db] = 20log450V / V = 20 * 2.65 = 53dB

    Ku [V / V] = 0.06V / V
    Ku [db] = 20log0.06 = 20 * -1.22 = -24dB

    And when we calculate the power, we divide and multiply by 10.
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  • #6 3025428
    Konsul
    Level 23  
    Jony is right. I wanted to write back quickly and I was wrong. I do not like the way of writing at the very bottom, because the written equations are contradictory, especially when there are no dB units next to them. It seems to me that you should not create such records at all and clearly separate linear units from dB by writing, for example:
    Ku = 100V / V
    Ku [db] = 20log100V / V = 40dB
    Writing such equations on one line gives the appearance of the possibility of making two-way actions on these expressions, which is of course a mistake.
  • #7 3025524
    andrzejlisek
    Level 31  
    I heard that there is still a dBA volume unit. How is it converted between dB and dBA?
  • #8 3027339
    qrdel
    Level 28  
    The dBA units are used to measure loudness (noise), and precisely it is the averaged power of the sound pressure.

    The basis is the value 2 * 10 ^ -5 Pa, level 0 dB, denoted p0.

    Basically the loudness is L = 10 log10 (p / p0) ^ 2.

    Only that due to the properties of human hearing, the pressure p is averaged over the audible frequency range according to one of the characteristics A, C or Z (well, I was sure it was B, but I read that it was not). Hence the dBA (dBC and dBZ).

    And if someone wishes in more detail, I recommend http://www.sonopan.com.pl/pliki/pawod/definicje_a.pdf

Topic summary

The discussion focuses on converting between decibels (dB) and voltage ratios (V/V). The primary formulas for these conversions are established: to convert from dB to V/V, the formula is V1 [V] / V2 [V] = 10 ^ (X [dB] / 20), while to convert from V/V to dB, the formula is X [dB] = 20 log (V1 [V] / V2 [V]). Several examples illustrate these conversions, demonstrating how to calculate voltage ratios from given dB values and vice versa. Additionally, a query about the conversion between dB and dBA is addressed, explaining that dBA is used to measure loudness and involves averaging sound pressure over specific frequency ranges.
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