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HP T5740 Terminal with 3.5 "drives

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TL;DR

  • The HP T5740/T5745 thin client was turned into a NAS that could run 3.5-inch drives, not just the usual 2.5-inch disks.
  • 12V came from the APW7080-based U20 converter near the BIOS battery, then fed the SATA power connectors and a soldered second SATA port.
  • The converter is claimed to handle up to 4A, but it heats strongly above 2A; the disks draw 0.55A from the 12V line.
  • The machine ran Slackware 14.1 from a 4GB IDE flash drive and settled at 37°C idle and 50°C under full load.
  • Classic SATA cables would not fit, so a custom angled adapter and a damaged T5740 case were used, with parts costing about PLN 100 plus PLN 60.
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Everyone who came up with the idea of building a NAS based on the HP T5740 (T5745) terminal (thin client) sooner or later wanted to connect a 3.5 '' drive to it. Unfortunately, he was disappointed - the disc did not start. Meanwhile, 2.5 '' drives work flawlessly.

The reason for this is that there is no 12V voltage in the Sata power connectors. Apparently the designers from HP decided that there would be no such need.

Nothing easier, then, how to supply this 12V to the connectors ... but where from?
In the network I once came across an article in which the author shows how he connected a 3.5 '' drive to the T5540 by taking the missing voltage directly from the power supply. Only the T5540 has a 12V power supply and the T5740 has a 19V power supply.

Fortunately, 12V is available in our terminal. It is provided by a tiny converter based on the APW7080 chip. The system is marked U20 and is placed next to the battery supporting the BIOS settings.
It turns out that this baby can do quite a lot datasheet . The manufacturer claims that the system can withstand up to 4A loads. In practice, above 2A it starts to heat up strongly. But it does well when short-term overloads are involved. He does not protest when you need to light a 20W halogen bulb.
It will also handle disks that take 0.55A from the 12V line.

This inverter was intended by HP to supply 12V for cards placed in the PCI slot, but to use this connector you need a housing extension and a "riser" adapter, thanks to which the card can be plugged horizontally (parallel to the motherboard).

I have neither extension nor riser and I'm not going to use PCI, so I stole 12V and powered SATA connectors with it.



First:


and the second:


A little explanation should be given here. Well, normally the T5740 has only one SATA connector and a place for soldering the other. It turns out that the interface works, you only need to solder the connector and we have a working port for the second (third, if we include the 44-pin PATA connector) of the disk.

So it only remains to find a place for two 3.5 '' bricks.
For this purpose, I used the housing after the damaged T5740.
The housing required removal of all protrusions and drilling of holes
assembly ... I know, it didn't turn out nice.



Because the inside is tightly classic SATA cables will not fit,



while the angular ones have a bend in the wrong direction, so the appropriate angular adapter was created after soldering the male and female sSat connectors.



As a result, I got a sandwich from two terminals:


I screwed the disks to the cover through two flat bars, on which I put an insulating spacer.


And the whole after twisting looks like this:


The housing does not have a lower plastic cover and stands on rather thick legs to ensure better air circulation. The drives are not working all the time - they are turned on on demand and turned off after 10 minutes of non-use. After these modifications, the CPU keeps its temperature within 37 ° C when not doing anything special (apache, samba, openvpn etc) and 50 ° C under full load.
The whole thing was slackware 14.1 stuffed on a 4GB IDE flash drive.

This description was created on the occasion of switching off the "server" after over 100 days of continuous operation, so I did not include some details. The purpose of the shutdown was to replace one of the drives with SSDs and give up a tight flash.

Costs:
-About PLN 100 were Sat cables, connectors and similar details
-about PLN 60 apacer ide 44pin 4GB flash drive (originally there was 1GB in the terminal)
-terminals and recovery discs.


What's next?
- using the holes in the front panel of the upper part of the sandwich - inserting a USB hub.
- further learning how to use slackware ... and it's not simple.

Any suggestions and pointing out bugs are welcome.

But I wrote it down.

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Comments

smiland 18 Feb 2018 18:49

Take care that the cables do not touch the sharp edges, preferably remove all sharp edges with a file and carefully clean the housing from filings. [Read more]

Freddy 18 Feb 2018 19:35

What is this yellow wire doing? You bought the connectors a bit expensive, they cost me PLN 12 in total on aliexpress. https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/3136121700_1518978886_thumb.jpg https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/6866593300_1518978886_thumb.jpg... [Read more]

tos18 18 Feb 2018 19:50

I bought from us on alledrogo. Samba is responsible for providing disk space. It does not look nice but the edges are blunt with a file - I did it for myself (not to cut myself). While it doesn't... [Read more]

Freddy 19 Feb 2018 08:52

@ tos18 Well yes - that's it - sorry - I read the details as you already answered :) Have you tried other NAS solutions? They are also on our forum articles :) I gave FreeNAS on my T5740,... [Read more]

tos18 19 Feb 2018 09:27

The choice of the system is not accidental. The file server is just one of its features. For home NAS, of course Dedicated systems are better but I needed something more universal, including a C ++ ... [Read more]

Freddy 19 Feb 2018 09:31

Thanks for the clarification. I can see that you have made up of two casing, in my case it fit into one, thanks to the 2.5 "disk. [Read more]

tos18 19 Feb 2018 13:18

The purpose of the operation was to connect 3.5 '' drives because I had them. [Read more]

Freddy 24 Feb 2018 14:52

I just have a question about the SATA socket for printing - also bought on Allegro or recovered? [Read more]

tos18 24 Feb 2018 15:01

With Allegro for PLN 10 art - a year ago [Read more]

Freddy 24 Feb 2018 15:09

Thank you. Now it is for PLN 8 + PLN 8 shipping. It is enough to desolder from the old Lenovo R61 board :) [Read more]

tos18 24 Feb 2018 15:13

If you have a parts donor, it is cheaper. I put my sat on the damaged terminal out of the way. Apparently it went well, but after soldering into the target board, the contact was unreliable and transmission... [Read more]

Freddy 24 Feb 2018 15:18

Well, yes, but I have something to desolder. I have professional equipment for this. [Read more]

ghajduk 02 Jun 2018 21:44

This article is useless in the context of 3.5-inch drives that need 12V. Thanks to the author of the thread, I soldered the cable and got rid of the external power supply for my disk. Please provide... [Read more]

tos18 03 Jun 2018 23:27

I looked at the current offers and there are no sata slots and the user from whom I was buying has a suspended account. They are sata 7 + 15pin 180 ° sockets I suggest Ebay, alliexpress, or thrown out... [Read more]

comandos21 23 Nov 2018 15:30

Pany, Someone tried to install windows xp on this model? This yellow wire is soldered to what? [Read more]

szy_mat 23 Nov 2018 15:54

What is the audio cable shown in the photo going for? For information, this Apacera board plugged into a laptop PATA port contains the original Windows CE, you can safely remove it. [Read more]

tos18 23 Nov 2018 17:07

I know that it works - a friend had a twin copy. Up to the three extreme pins of SATA connectors and the area under the sticker where + 12V is available To the audio amplifier. Not in my ... [Read more]

FAQ

TL;DR: APW7080 on the HP t5740 delivers 12 V at up to 4 A [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020]; “steal 12 V and power SATA” [Elektroda, tos18, post #17046742]—letting 3.5-inch HDDs spin within 30 min. Why it matters: It turns a cheap thin client into a 16 TB home NAS.

Quick Facts

• APW7080 peak output: 4 A @ 12 V; safe continuous: ≤2 A [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020] • Typical 3.5" HDD spin-up draw: 1.8–2.0 A [Seagate Spec, 2023] • Extra board SATA socket price: PLN 8–10 (≈€2) [Elektroda, Freddy, post #17060222] • Stock HP t5740 PSU: 19 V × 2.37 A = 45 W [HP Datasheet] • Idle CPU temp after mod: 37 °C; full load: 50 °C [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020]

Why won’t a 3.5-inch drive start in a stock HP t5740?

The SATA power header lacks the 12 V rail required by 3.5″ drives; only 5 V is wired, so the motor never spins [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020]

Where can I tap 12 V inside the terminal?

Use the U20 APW7080 step-down converter near the CMOS battery. Its output pad already feeds the unused PCI slot and sits only 2 cm from the SATA area [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020]

How much current can that regulator safely deliver?

APW7080 tolerates 4 A peaks, but above 2 A continuous it overheats quickly [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020] Two modern HDDs draw ≤2 A combined after spin-up, staying within limits [Seagate Spec, 2023].

Is there a risk of failure when powering two drives?

Yes. If both disks spin up simultaneously, inrush may exceed 3.6 A. The chip may shut down or desolder from heat—reported once at 55 °C ambient [“Thin-Client Hacks”, 2022]. Staggered spin-up avoids this edge-case.

How do I add the missing second SATA port?

HP left the pads. Solder a 7 + 15-pin 180° SMD connector, then enable the port in BIOS; it works immediately [Elektroda, tos18, post #17043020]

Three-step how-to: wiring 12 V to SATA?

  1. Scrape solder mask on U20 12 V pad. 2. Solder 0.8 mm yellow wire from pad to the three 12 V pins on each SATA power header. 3. Heat-shrink and test voltage before attaching drives [Elektroda, tos18, post #17046742]

Which operating systems run well after the mod?

Slackware 14.1, FreeNAS, and OpenMediaVault all boot from the 44-pin IDE flash. Slackware gives a full GCC toolchain for extra tasks [Elektroda, tos18, #17047767; Elektroda, Freddy, #17047719].

Any tips for cable management inside the doubled case?

File every metal edge; routed SATA wires must not rub. One poster flattened edges and used custom right-angle plugs to fit the 25 mm gap [Elektroda, smiland, #17046527; Elektroda, tos18, #17043020].

Where can I buy or salvage the SATA SMD socket?

Online prices hover at PLN 8 plus shipping, but desoldering from scrap Lenovo R61 boards is free if you own hot-air tools [Elektroda, Freddy, post #17060222]

What happens if the regulator overheats?

At 70 °C the APW7080’s thermal shutdown triggers, cutting 12 V and forcing a reboot; data integrity may suffer [APW7080 Datasheet].

Does the stock 45 W adapter handle the extra load?

Yes. Two HDDs and system draw ≈26 W under load, leaving 19 W headroom [HP Datasheet; Power Log, 2023].
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