Induction motor or inverter - which electrolux washing machine should you choose

Question

Hello, I would like to purchase a top loading washing machine. The decisive factor is, of course, the service life of the washing machine. I found out that some electrolux models have induction motors, others have inverter motors. It is known that with the use of new technologies, the price...

Anonymous · Answer

If the washing machine has an induction motor, there is no power, there must be an inverter. Price data sometimes makes no sense, check the manufacturer's website.

antekch · Answer

All these washing machines have the same motor.

dzi_dziuś · Answer

After reading the description, I can assume that the inverter type motor will be something like a direct drive, found in LG. In fact, it ensures quieter operation and less vibration, but the opinions must be read on the forum. Probably safer to take an ordinary induction (although it's an old-fashioned solution, not modern) with a strap and use the washing machine for years Ps. Read more if the selected models have detachable tanks - it's important!

Anonymous · Answer

Bad colleagues write. The point is probably that in 2 above there is a motor with brushes (commutator), and in this one there is a synchronous or asynchronous induction motor with speed control by changing the frequency, hence the Inverter. But in the above-mentioned models there is a strap anyway. The change only concerns the design of the engine. Only LG has a real direct drive motor (at the moment from what I know)

dzi_dziuś · Answer

On the manufacturer's website they say that two models have an induction motor, which no one here will tell me, that it can be a commutator and one has an inverter type motor ... Honestly, I have never encountered this term, hence my assumption about the direct drive, which, as I read somewhere, is used by other companies ..

lottee · Answer

In response to the posts, I would like to point out that the information that I was able to find in the meantime coincides with the comments of the last 3 pre-speakers. The only thing I was able to find out for sure from the manufacturer of electrolux is that: The inverter motor increases efficiency and ensures extremely quiet operation. Theoretically, this would mean that it is a motor similar to the direct drive found in LG. Of course, I couldn't find any decent article about the direct drive engine in Polish. So while an Inverter Duty Motor means an inverter motor in Polish, I managed to find one article in English that roughly explains the differences between an induction motor and an inverter: It fits nicely with the description of direct drive in LG: So, can we consider inverter duty motor to mean inverter motor? So what do you think: trust the inverter motor or is it better to take something proven and go to induction? Added after 13 [minutes]: From what I have understood, an inverter motor is such an induction motor, improved due to its greater (compared to induction) resistance to voltage changes and a better cooling system. Due to this, they were supposed to be less emergency. Do you agree with that? Btw, today, because I'm rather green in terms of how motors in washing machines have changed over the years, hence the question: induction motor probably does not belong to such old ones as the world? As far as I understand correctly, commutator (brush) motors have been used for a long time, right?

dzi_dziuś · Answer

Well, absolutely the opposite! Induction motors were used in fleece 40 years ago. Brush motors are a relatively new idea from the 1990s. They were introduced because they are more pleasant to control both the direction and the speed of rotation. Induction motors here need more development of electric motors, and at the same time they are less emergency, which clashes with the idea of modern equipment. In commutator motors, the brushes sometimes wear out quickly, and often with such a fault, the motor is beyond repair. That is why companies now boast that they use induction motors, writing that this is a new solution, etc., etc. A direct drive motor is not so much a type of motor as a method of transmission (direct drive). If we are actually talking about such an engine, it is better to let it go. I would rather go in the direction of a proven induction motor with a belt drive.

Anonymous · Answer

Don't let your friend tell fairy tales. I was specifically calling a friend from Electrolux. All of the above models have an inverted motor (inverter). An induction motor cannot have a variable speed without the use of an inverter. Simply the ELECTROLUX EWT 136641W model is a newer production (this year) and they added the Inverter to the name. And the other models are last year's, but also have an inverter. In summary, it is quite one which washing machine you buy. They have a slight variation on the menu, that's about it.

dzi_dziuś · Answer

It is obvious to everyone. However, I also launched my acquaintances and found out something else, and after entering the appropriate search term, everything turned out to be clear! An inverter-controlled induction motor is something else, and here we are dealing with an inverter motor, i.e. NOTE: Other: Inverter motor This motor is integrated with the washing machine drum, but it does not have a belt that transmits the drive, which guarantees less vibration and noise level, and thus makes the motor almost failure-free. Info from the site: And yes, by chance it turned out that I am right and I am not telling fairy tales ... greetings

Anonymous · Answer

Now a friend has beaten himself !! I propose to verify my knowledge. Maybe a colleague will explain how in all 4 models there is an element drive belt with a size of 1200J5 ??? It's interesting if it is supposed to be integrated with the drum. I suggest looking for information on the manufacturer's website, not where it goes. It turns out that you are telling some nice fairy tales. greetings :-) DRUM INTEGRATED INVERTER MOTOR (WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED) below PS The model with a line EWT136640W has a very nice belt and an inverter controlled induction motor !!!!!!!!!!!!

dzi_dziuś · Answer

Well. It remains for me to pay back my honor. I also wrote a query to the electrolux company where I found out that: I warmly welcome We use these terms interchangeably inverter or induction motor Yours sincerely (...) Electrolux Helpline So, however, I was wrong and sometimes I have to tell a fairy tale ... greetings

lottee · Answer

Thank you very much for your answers. adrianarktos12 and today you deserve a medal for this discussion I also have a question: if 136641 is this year's version of last year's 136,640, does it mean that 136,640 had a defect that has been corrected or is it just a simple marketing gimmick?

Anonymous · Answer

The guts are the same. The principle of the market says that you have to release some news from time to time. They probably changed something in the appearance or the menu (as well as nothing). In addition, it is an identical washing machine with a higher No. Greetings.

lottee · Answer

In the store he wants to take, they are for the same price. Which one to buy?

Anonymous · Answer

Now the stupid question has been asked. If for the same price it is probably obvious that with a higher no.

lottee · Answer

Not that stupid at all. You said Fr. 136640 and a nice belt. What can a woman know about how the numbers change? :D Added after 48 : Thanks anyway. I order

Anonymous · Answer

This referred to the link in which a colleague was showing an inverter motor. And the nice belt and motor was a sarcasm.

dunajek · Answer

Inverter motor The brushless inverter motor does not generate friction and consequently does not overheat. The traditional brush motor takes time to avoid overheating - it is able to rotate the drum 70% of the operating time. In contrast, the inverter motor uses 95% of the working time to rotate the drum, with short downtimes long enough to make the drum stop momentarily. In this way, the use of an inverter motor allows for energy savings of 25% while maintaining the highest washing efficiency. ps. That's probably all there should be in this topic

PanBambaryla · Answer

Video about the Electrolux inverter motor

mrhari · Answer

And the money saved in this simple way can be spent on the purchase of new electronics controlling the engine when it ends its life

stefunn · Answer

I warmly welcome. 1. For the sake of understanding: the induction motor is the same as the iwerter? I understand that the same technology was used in both Elektrolux and LG washing machines and there is no way that the Direct Drive would be a motor integrated with the washing machine drum [although this company gives a long-term guarantee for the motor ...] 2. I am thinking about these two companies LG vs Elektrolux [especially when it comes to servicing]. I would be grateful for your advice and thank you in advance for answering the questions. New Year greetings

movzx · Answer

Please refer to the manufacturer's materials, for example - the DD just relies on the direct drive of the drum without the use of a belt. The so-called pancake motor. The same applies to terminology such as induction motor etc. - these are terms well explained in the available material.

pitt82 · Answer

I was looking and looking ...... unfortunately nowhere (except for washing machine manufacturers) I have found information about an inverter motor. My opinion - any fake is good - example: digital electrolytic capacitor - digital is because it has a voltage meter mounted on it - a meter with digital display.

astw · Answer

The best solution is to send an email to the manufacturer.

pitt82 · Answer

I got the answer to the e-mail - it is an induction motor with a driver. Hello, Just like the Lord says. Call Center Coordinator Consumer Care & Aftermarket Electrolux Poland Sp. z o. o I think it will be a controlled induction motor via some inverter. Please confirm.

Krzysztof Kamienski · Answer

Accurately Added after 4 [minutes]: Yes, only inverter controlled. No belt, drum driven directly by a ring with electromagnets. and Samsung, I have one, loaded from the top, but unfortunately produced only for the US market of Canada and Brazil (120VAC / 60Hz) So Direct Drive, what are some producers up to? The fact that such a motor must also have an inverter, i.e. Inverter. It is there! Buy a Direct Drive, no belt, virtually no gears, and silence when washing

peter falk · Answer

And here you are wrong about the magnetic field. Your current knowledge about drum drives in washing machines is negligible in light of what you wrote: and Samsung Such a silence as when taking off and landing a 747 at a short airport. How many back-end washing machines have you seen in your life? I bet two - these are mine

Krzysztof Kamienski · Answer

Oh, the dwarfs are spinning the drum. So, Falk, what do you call the system that powers the electromagnet assembly, call it the stator to create a rotating magnetic field and rotate the drum? Crystal detector? I will call it an inverter, or a BLDC drive, in total, the latter term applies to three or more phase synchronous motors powered by converters. Just like in Direct Drive. As for the noise, I objectively say that I have two, one here, the other in Poland (Samsung), both with DD and they are rather quieter, at least than you on the Forum Maybe you are actually repairing something there, with a hammer and pliers, because definitely not with an oscilloscope. Best regards, Piotr, and I encourage you to read it in the breaks between the Czech brewery. N / p what are dielectric antennas, rotating stator motors, etc, etc ...

wesmar · Answer

I can write about the engines because I was disassembling the driver. It is true in a Samsung refrigerator, but it is a PMSM motor, i.e. a synchronous machine with permanent magnets, in this case neodymium. 93% efficiency, 10-year warranty. Examples of notes on engines and applications are provided in the attachment.

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