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CISCO certificate. Is it worth doing? Will it be useful for something?

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  • #1 1279152
    eMC
    Level 13  
    Hello.
    Recently, I have heard quite a lot about courses to obtain CCNA CCNP and CCNI certifications. I am interested in getting certified, but first I would like to get the opinions of others. So my request is as follows: please give your opinion on this certificate, can it really help in looking for a job or is it just another insignificant piece of paper?
    Regards
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  • #2 1279205
    halif
    Level 26  
    These are good certificates. When it comes to networking, I rate Novell higher, but Cisco is quite good. If you are going to work on Cisc machines, choose these. At work ... well, sometimes the employer is looking for someone with a specific certificate, sometimes he does not look at them at all, and sometimes it is just a sign for him that a potential employer is willing, trying, and additionally, he will not need to be extra trained.

    As for the CCNA, check if your university (if you are a student) does not have a Cisco Academy. Most of the big "IT specialists" have: FTIMS at the Lodz University of Technology, WAT in Warsaw, Warsaw University, etc. There you can do a course for PLN 600 (and sometimes even for PLN 400 as a lecturer is favorable ;) )
  • #3 1279600
    elektryk
    Level 42  
    I am in the course of the course (I have completed 3 semesters and 4 on completion) and I have one application. This course is done only for the paper, the substantive value is included in the first semester and the middle of the second, the rest are specialized applications of disc equipment. A big disadvantage of this course is its laboriousness, it is not enough to walk once a week (1 semester, about 15 meetings), you have to forge materials yourself (not so much understanding as knowing by heart the next steps in solving the problem, without it you will not pass the tests) ). When it comes to costs, in my opinion my colleague halif was wrong. One semester costs about PLN 1000-1500 (it cost me PLN 1000 with maximum discounts), and the cost of the exam is about PLN 500 ($ 100 + own costs) [there are also discounts for the exam].
  • #4 1279738
    p_piotr
    Level 12  
    I just finished CCNA and I am very happy with the classes. They provide a great basis for the operation of computer networks. Of course, when it comes to the lowest layers of the network. I recommend. Although the curriculum is unified, regardless of the academy, the usefulness of this course also depends very much on the experience of the teachers ...
    Regards,
    P.
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  • #5 1279934
    halif
    Level 26  
    I am already explaining the cost. Cisco academies at universities operate on a non-profit basis and participants pay as much as the academy pays cisco plus any costs. In fact, there are discounts, this system is very complicated and extensive (for good grades, for no arrears, for participation, etc., colleagues can tell about it), similarly there are discounts for the exam for the best students. I know that at one of the universities they offered participation to the students of this university at the Cisco Academy for PLN 600 per semester, and in addition, the lecturer said that they would somehow rude and write fewer people, something left them from the materials, somehow they will create accounts, etc. it was interesting, but then the cost could drop to PLN 400 - but the legality of this option is ... well, it knows.
    But the colleague electrician is right - commercial companies make courses for 1500 and upwards for a semester. I only wrote about the Cisco Academy for students from my home university. Look if your university does not have such an academy ...
  • #6 1281924
    eMC
    Level 13  
    thanks for the answers.
    unfortunately there is no CISCO academy at my university :( one more thing: could you please tell us which academy did you take (take) the course?
  • #7 1282040
    halif
    Level 26  
    Military University of Technology - Cybernetics department.
    If you are from Warsaw, you can ask Dr. Tomasz Malinowski (tmalin@ita.wat.edu.pl) he will deal with it. Maybe they welcome outsiders.

    In addition, at the FTIMS department of the Lodz University of Technology there is an academy:
    http://cna.zsk.p.lodz.pl/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > http://cna.zsk.p.lodz.pl/

    Regards
  • #8 1283166
    p_piotr
    Level 12  
    My speech concerned the Ciscio Academy at the Poznań University of Technology (at the Institute of Electronics and Telecommunications)
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  • #9 1283255
    grzesiox
    Level 19  
    And I'm just broken about it :(
    In the former school (technical college) some time ago cisco opened an academy, but the school now has it as a normal subject for free :( just pass the exam and have the paper :( and that's all after I left school :( rabble
  • #10 1284481
    elektryk
    Level 42  
    halif wrote:
    But the colleague electrician is right - commercial companies make courses for 1500 and upwards for a semester. I only wrote about the Cisco Academy for students from my home university. Look if your university does not have such an academy ...
    See, even at the FTIMS faculties of the Lodz University of Technology quoted by colleagues, the basic price is PLN 1600.
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  • #11 1285135
    eMC
    Level 13  
    hmm. I might think about it yet ... but the novell course. in any case you will have to start collecting money ...
  • #12 1285189
    halif
    Level 26  
    elektryk wrote:
    halif wrote:
    But the colleague electrician is right - commercial companies make courses for 1500 and upwards for a semester. I only wrote about the Cisco Academy for students from my home university. Look if your university does not have such an academy ...
    See, even at the FTIMS faculties of the Lodz University of Technology quoted by colleagues, the basic price is PLN 1600.


    Yes, but for Lodz University of Technology students, when paying in advance, it is only 750. At WATie, it is commercially PLN 1200, I do not know exactly how much for students ... But generally it is an expensive matter. You have to lie a little bit that this is an investment in yourself and hope that it will pay off.
    (Novell is probably even more expensive and available only in commercial training companies, but if you want to, I can dig up materials from their courses .. I think they are still in pdfs somewhere)

    Regards - Tom
  • #13 3331857
    rado_
    Level 22  
    at my university in Warmia and Mazury, the cost of one semester is PLN 300, the total cost is PLN 1,200.
  • #14 3400955
    djfazee
    Level 14  
    I'm also in the process of taking this course, I'm finishing my first semester, the worst thing is that I have exams in English and I don't feel comfortable with English. Besides, the certificate that you get is only valid for 3 years, then you have to re-pass the vocational exam for $ 150
  • #15 3401261
    rado_
    Level 22  
    $ 150 is the cost of the international exam, i.e. passed at the institute, and the course that passes at universities does not need to be renewed
  • #16 3405569
    adikbo
    Level 26  
    Gentlemen, the CCNA is just the tip of a very high iceberg. This is practically an introduction to computer networks. Things at the academy are absolute basics. The real fun begins at the CCNP stage. The certificate is divided into 4 exams (routing, switching, security, optimization). The test exam itself is not difficult, but you have to put a lot of effort into it. As for the certificates themselves, the ones given at the beginning are a bit strange. As far as I know the cisco path, it looks like this:

    Associate level: CCNA, CCDA
    Profesional level: CCNP, CCDP, CCVP, CCSP
    Expert level: CCIE (R&S, Security, VoIP, Storage)

    In addition to this, there is a special path for sellers (CQS).

    Another issue is the respect of certificates by employers. It is different with this. If the company is real, there is no problem with respecting the certificates and getting a job (at least CCNP). If a potential employer does not know what these certificates are, it is not worth bothering about them. Well, unless someone likes to play with D-Link or similar SOHO equipment.

    Overall, cisco hardware is practically the backbone of wide area networks. There is practically no alternative but Juniper. Some people play Alcatel, AlliedTelesyn, 3Com, but this equipment is only used in specific applications. Alcatel is mainly ISDN and toys related to analog telephony. AlliedTelesyn is a cheap Hong Kong crap. Not worth your interest. 3Com rather plays with equipment for end users (network cards, managed switches).

    Coming back to the topic of the Cisco academy. While it makes sense with CCNA, it makes little sense with CCNP. As for the expert level, bootcamps in the US are rather preferred.

    Regards
    adikbo
    CCNA; (1/4) CCNP
  • #17 5677437
    jatoja83
    Level 11  
    Hello,
    Does anyone know about the CCNA exam? I am referring to the old version of the exam 640-801. I was graduating from the cisco ccna 3.1 academy so I should still get the 640-801 exam (although it's been a year since my voucher expired ...)
    Does anyone know what the current tests are now (actualtest & king test)?
  • #18 5679454
    adikbo
    Level 26  
    Hello,

    Honestly, if you want to play braindumpy at the CCNA stage, you'd better let go of networks and certifications altogether. You won't get far (to the first interview) with this approach. Such fun can be afforded when cert is not needed for your work, but only to obtain a partnership by the company. And it doesn't look very pretty.

    CCNA is such a simple certificate that after monthly preparation you are able to pass it without any problems. I would suggest looking for good literature: Wendell Odom, Sybex, CISCOPress, and CBT Nuggets starring the immortal Jeremy Cioara. They give you a sufficient idea of the content of the exam.

    And if you insist on braindumps, then only P4S. Testking is full of bugs.

    At the same time, if you pass braindumps, you can do a good job at an interview. Personally, I use a small compilation of testking and P4S questions during job interviews. If the test is 100% and there is no idea in the conversation, the culprit will be gone. Such a tiny catch :)


    And now a few words about the sense of passing the old version - in my opinion, it is not worth playing with such an archaic version. It seems that there was even ISDN which is no longer practically used in new networks (I'm not talking about the existing ones - especially banks).
    The new version of the exam is not much different from the old one, but it contains much more interesting technologies (even DSL, I think).

    In other words: for books and equipment! (if you don't have a lab, I recommend the dynamips + dynagen set).


    Best regards and have a nice study.
    adikbo
    CCNP certified
    CCIE R&S - written

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the value of Cisco certifications, specifically CCNA, CCNP, and CCNI, in enhancing job prospects in the networking field. Participants share mixed opinions, highlighting that while these certifications are recognized and can provide a solid foundation in networking, their actual value may vary depending on the employer's perspective. Some emphasize the importance of practical knowledge over just obtaining the certificate, noting that the CCNA serves as an introduction to networking concepts, while CCNP delves deeper into specialized areas. The costs of courses vary significantly, with some universities offering lower rates for students, while commercial training can be more expensive. The necessity of renewing certifications and the potential for job opportunities based on these credentials are also discussed.
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