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Analog vs. Digital Devices: Simple Classification & Examples for Easy Understanding

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  • #1 14883504
    pi3cho82
    Level 8  
    Hello,
    From time to time I come across the concept of analog and digital devices. And although the definition can be found on the Internet, I am not able to define which devices are analog and which are digital. Can you provide any simple way to classify the device into one or the other group?
    greetings
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    #2 14883519
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    Analog regulation / control takes place continuously. Digitally it is done by reading the error with a given measurement frequency. Analog control is the most accurate, digital easy to build.
  • #3 14883589
    pi3cho82
    Level 8  
    And is it not so in some areas, e.g. in the field of measurement, that the transition from analog to digital recording?
  • #4 14883623
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    The key word is registration, i.e. storage of an appropriate number of signal samples with the required resolution.
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  • #5 14883649
    pi3cho82
    Level 8  
    I just ask, what is the advantage of digital measurement / recording over analog and vice versa?
    Thanks for the previous replies.
    greetings
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    #6 14883720
    KaW
    Level 34  
    The analog device can output information about the measurement result in a continuous form, e.g .:
    pointer instrument It requires the operation of reading The reading is carried out by a human Reading is burdened with an error After the reading the result is recorded The necessary is: human, time, paper etc.

    The device is equipped with a converter of the measured quantity in a digital form
    on request, "displays" the measurement system or human value in a form suitable for further processing in digital technology: -computer-specialized device -etc. etc..
    The decision-making center may be remote from the source of the information.
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  • #7 14883823
    pi3cho82
    Level 8  
    Thank you for your answer. Probably the most important basic things have been written in the subject, although if any of you think that you can add something, I will be grateful.
    greetings
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    #8 14885252
    jarek_lnx
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    From time to time I come across the concept of analog and digital devices. And although the definition can be found on the Internet, I am not able to define which devices are analog and which are digital. Can you provide any simple way to classify the device into one or the other group?

    The problem is that the world is analog, a device that is to digitally process signals from the outside must also have an analog part. The word digital is often overused, it appears in advertising slogans and even company names, e.g. "digital quality" "digital pol.at". Most people associate analogue with a vinyl record or a cassette tape or VHS, and digital with a CD / DVD, etc., hence the idea of digital over analog, but the "digital" audio amplifier, i.e. class D, still gives way to analog, and speakers and microphones are still analog because no way has yet been invented to digitally convert the data stream into air movement.

    As an example, I can compare analog and digital filters, an analog filter is an electronic system designed to separate a certain frequency band, the better selectivity we require from the filter, the higher order the filter must be, which means that there are more and more elements in the system and the requirements for the accuracy of these elements are more and more difficult to be fulfilled, therefore it is impossible to make an ideal filter.
    A digital filter is an algorithm that multiplies and adds (before that we have to convert the signal into digital form), if we have a fast circuit that will calculate it, we can build a filter much more complex than the analog one and much better selectivity, it works great at low and medium frequencies, but If we wanted to filter frequencies of a few GHz, the requirement for a digital system several dozen / hundred times faster becomes very difficult to meet, then we can use analog filtering that is easier to implement (this is how digital radio is often realized, analogue start, then conversion and digital rest)

    How to determine if the radio is digital? As a user, you have no chance, the degree of "digitization" can be very different, a few dozen years ago a PLL loop was introduced to completely analog radio, the loop is analog but the frequency can be set digitally, there are completely analog radios that receive digital transmissions, even Morse code can be included for digital broadcasts.
    But SDR (software defined radio) is something more, a radio in which demodulation takes place digitally, completely digital radio is still a rarity, although theoretically, to receive low frequencies, you could connect the ADC directly to the antenna and do the rest digitally, for now amplification and preliminary filtering a sometimes the conversion is easier and better to do analog.

    It often happens that the "digital quality" of digital equipment is mainly determined by the analog part - eg in digital cameras it is the analog lens and the analog matrix that decide.
  • #9 14885965
    pi3cho82
    Level 8  
    Thanks for a very interesting statement !!!
    In this thread we write about analog and digital devices, and are there any other types of devices apart from these two types, or does each device MUST be either analog or digital?
    greetings
  • #10 14886228
    ametyst12
    Level 14  
    pi3cho82 wrote:
    and are there any other types of devices besides these two types, or does each device MUST be either analog or digital?

    It can also be active or passive.
  • #11 14886298
    DVDM14
    Level 35  
    Another important advantage of digital systems is the ease of storage and data transmission. Having a data stream in the form of a binary code, we can easily store even huge amounts of it, copy and send at will, and each subsequent copy will be absolutely identical to the original - while the analog signal storage is more problematic and it is impossible to make a perfect copy - each the next replica will be more and more distorted and of lower quality.
  • #12 14886313
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    I assume that the blocks in the device can be analog or digital. As the previous speakers wrote: purely analog devices, such as old radios, televisions, indicators, meters, light bulbs :) . Currently, we have mixed systems that facilitate construction and ensure the appropriate quality of processing. It's like having a 1Mx1M monitor with a diagonal of 24 "to observe the image from a distance of 1m. The human eye will not process that amount of data, so it is a pointless monitor.
  • #13 14887492
    deus.ex.machina
    Level 32  
    deksta84 wrote:
    It's like having a 1Mx1M monitor with a diagonal of 24 "to observe the image from a distance of 1m. The human eye will not process that amount of data, so it is a pointless monitor.


    Eh .. simplifications - following this line, it can be written that each device powered by electricity is digital because a single electron represents one quantization interval ... anyway, many analog electronic components are of a quasi-discrete nature.
    Another simplification is treating gates as non-analog circuits - digital electronics is a special case of analog electronics.
  • #14 14888360
    dondu
    Moderator on vacation ...
    And I will add, to confuse the author of the topic even more, that in the nano and sometimes picoseconds scale all signals are analogical, even digital ones. Therefore, in fact, to call a device a digital one adopts a certain conventional classification .

    The point is that a digital signal is nothing more than an analog signal using, for example, a voltage on the signal line, which, in simple terms, is either high or low or not at all (high impedance), but the change of state (edge) unfortunately does not last 0 seconds, which means that it takes the voltage intermediate states, i.e. it is analog.

    Therefore, in some cases, maximum edge rise times of such a digital signal are specified for the integrated circuit or device to function properly. In other words, in such a case it is the rise or fall time that determines whether the signal is considered digital by the integrated circuit or not.

    As you can see, everything depends on the seat point and the references accepted for classification, because we consider a computer a digital device as such, but a sound card is not. But if we break it down into prime factors, they both have strictly digital and strictly analog elements ... and if we look at the side that I described above, the whole computer is still analog.

    deksta84 wrote:
    As the previous speakers wrote: purely analog devices, such as old radios, televisions, ...

    ... although here you can also see digital elements from a certain point of view : e.g. power switch

    To sum up - all devices are analog, and defining them as digital is just a certain agreement regarding certain guidelines adopted for their classification, so the statement that:

    deus.ex.machina wrote:
    ... digital electronics is a special case of analog electronics.

    is a very good overall statement.
  • #15 14888562
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    Power switch is not CLK clocked. It is an electrical element.
    The switch is probably the second (after the power source) electrical element in the history of mankind.
    The microswitch connected to the input of the processor is also an analog element. The vibration of the contact cannot be predicted in any way. And "digital" imposes repeatability.

    From this I conclude that in analog systems we accept some noise, disturbances, with continuity of processing at our disposal, and in digital systems we have certainty of operation at the expense of continuity.
  • #16 14888667
    deus.ex.machina
    Level 32  
    deksta84 wrote:
    Power switch is not CLK clocked. It is an electrical element.
    The switch is probably the second (after the power source) electrical element in the history of mankind.
    The microswitch connected to the input of the processor is also an analog element. The vibration of the contact cannot be predicted in any way. And "digital" imposes repeatability.

    From this I conclude that in analog systems we accept some noise, disturbances, with continuity of processing at our disposal, and in digital systems we have certainty of operation at the expense of continuity.


    Eh ... repeatability in digital circuits is a hard-won design feature (both hardware and software) - the same repeatability can be obtained in analog circuits.
    Moreover, the circuits of the AC and CA converters are circuits considered purely analog - I have even come across the term "digital amplifier" on a DAC.

    The pure definition of "digital" are discrete circuits (but discrete by the fact that they use a discrete level and / or discrete time and level and not discrete elements).
    But again, for example, comparators operating on a continuous signal (both in time and level, although there may be comparators operating with discrete time and continuous level) are purely analog systems.
    Besides, to complicate the whole thing are analog circuits which operate on discrete time but with a continuous level - e.g. circuits with switched capacities.

    What is digital and what is analog is determined by the implemented algorithm / function - e.g. digital gates can be linearized and used as analog amplifiers etc.
  • #17 14888927
    dondu
    Moderator on vacation ...
    deksta84 wrote:
    Power switch is not CLK clocked.

    And the logic gate is always clocked? No, and yet it is considered a digital element. :)

    Besides, I wrote:
    dondu wrote:
    ... although you can also here to watch digital components ...

    everything depends on the point of reference.

    deksta84 wrote:
    The microswitch connected to the input of the processor is also an analog element. The vibration of the contact cannot be predicted in any way.

    It is a two-state element, i.e. it has the features of a digital system, and the fact that it has intermediate states depends only on the time we are considering, which I wrote about:

    dondu wrote:
    And I will add, to confuse the author of the topic even more, that in the nano and sometimes picoseconds scale all signals are analogical, even digital ones.

    The same as with a switch on every logic gate at its output - check by plugging in the oscilloscope and stretching the time base and you will see an uneven slope and vibration at each end of it. No digital waveform is perfectly rectangular because it results from the analog characteristics of the elements that the gate is built of, i.e. transistors.

    deksta84 wrote:
    And "digital" imposes repeatability.

    Not true. It can guarantee it, but it certainly does not impose it.

    deksta84 wrote:
    From this I conclude that in analog systems we accept some noise, disturbances, with continuity of processing at our disposal, and in digital systems we have certainty of operation at the expense of continuity.

    In digital circuits, noise also occurs because sequential circuits scan the pins to the clock, which is not perfect, and the signal is sampled at unequal (again a matter of picos and nanoseconds) intervals in relation to changes on the pin - example: http: // microcontrollers.blogspot. com / 2011/04 / how-the-microcontroller-sees-digital-signal.html

    Another good definition:

    deus.ex.machina wrote:
    What is digital and what is analog is determined rather by the implemented algorithm / function ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the classification of analog and digital devices, highlighting their fundamental differences. Analog devices operate continuously and are often associated with traditional measurement tools like pointer instruments, while digital devices process information in discrete steps, allowing for easier data storage and transmission. The conversation touches on the advantages of each type, such as the accuracy of analog systems versus the convenience and replicability of digital systems. Participants also note that many modern devices incorporate both analog and digital components, leading to mixed systems. The complexity of defining these categories is acknowledged, with some arguing that all signals, at a fundamental level, are analog, and the distinction is often a matter of context and application.
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