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Middle School Student Exploring Electronics: Choosing Study Direction, Repairs, and Resources

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  • #1 16383958
    kamilsonek
    Level 2  
    Hello all. I apologize in advance if there is a similar topic. I am in the third grade of middle school and it is time for me to choose the direction in which I should study. I'm interested in electronics. At home, I often repair some rtv equipment, but it is rather a trial and error method, if a bulging capacitor is visible, I will replace it. Rather, I would like to study in this direction. Are there any segregations in the category of science studies, e.g. repairing televisions, repairing telephones, computers or is it rather learning everything at once? I am more interested in repair, if there are such departments, it is repairing tv, computers. Could you ask for some names or links to the books in pdf format. Where could I read, where to start my adventure with electronics, what will I need to be able to repair various power supplies in the TV.
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  • #2 16383985
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    Hello, recently someone sold a lot of books on the basics of electronics on the forum, etc. See the classifieds section.
  • #3 16384195
    cyann
    Level 20  
    When it comes to the basics, I recommend electronics to everyone. They have a lot of material on their website (elportal.pl). In addition, you can also look for electronics that are easier than Nuhrmann thinks.
    Later, if you can do it, you can see the art of electronics - Horowitz, Hill, but be warned it is heavy and has a lot of theory.
    You can also read Electronic Devices - Daniszewski, Żyburt-Wasilewska, sometimes you will find something interesting.
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  • #4 16384216
    kamilsonek
    Level 2  
    thanks and something about how to use a multimeter what and how to measure
  • #6 16384393
    jarek_lnx
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    I'm interested in electronics. At home, I often repair some rtv equipment, but it is rather a trial and error method, if a bulging capacitor is visible, I will replace it.
    Electronics is not only repair, a real electronics engineer is a constructor ;) repairs are getting worse, equipment manufacturers are striving to make electronic devices unrepairable and fewer devices can be repaired, not only due to technical difficulties, such as densely packed components, multi-layer circuits and the required specialized measuring equipment, but also due to difficulties on the part of manufacturers - no diagrams of spare parts and firmware, it is difficult to recommend this direction for the future, although of course the best will always find something for themselves, but there are few of them.
    Quote:
    Rather, I would like to study in this direction.
    You have to learn how electronic circuits work, you need to get to know the theory a bit, but to fix it you need to have a bit different knowledge, practical, it is best to learn from someone who does it, in schools they teach rather how to design and not quite because they teach what was easy embracing for teachers while they were at school - so somewhat impractical and outdated.
    Quote:
    Are there any segregations in the category of science studies, e.g. repairing televisions, repairing telephones, computers or is it rather learning everything at once?
    Electronics is a wide field, each electronic equipment has its own specifics, so there are repairers of automotive, industrial, medical, military equipment (here it can pay off) and RTV equipment (it is usually not worth repairing here), but I don't know if you will find a school that teaches this way. Learning electronics is rather a division into analog, digital, impulse, radio, etc. according to how it works, not what function it performs.
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  • #7 16385174
    kamilsonek
    Level 2  
    that is, I understand that it will be difficult to make a living in this direction in the future. I like to fumble with electronics and it's a pity that this profession is dying, fortunately there is something else that interests me ... and maybe it is a bit related to electronics, because computer science :) . I will not give up anyway, I will leave electronics as a hobby. I still have a question and I do not want to start a new topic I got two tv from my neighbor, one of them is a plasma one, which is just in my workshop, I have two parts duplicated on the motherboard and power supply, at the beginning fuses were burning in the power supply, but it is probably my fault, because when I changed the tape connecting the motherboard with the power supply, it does not burn it anymore, I still have a PCB, but it is in a deplorable condition and there are no capacitor elements in it, maybe after soldering them This plasma would start, as I do not know myself, I can not read diagrams, I emphasize yet :) then I would like to ask someone to tell you what capacitors are missing here and whether the control lamp should be lit on the TV without this module. Provides the model and photo of this module. lj41-06613a Middle School Student Exploring Electronics: Choosing Study Direction, Repairs, and Resources
  • #8 16385414
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    kamilsonek wrote:
    it is a pity that this profession is dying out
    It does not die, but the requirements have increased significantly. While twenty / thirty years ago it was enough to have mastered the basics of electronics and be able to think logically, now the basics and logic are not enough - more and more processors, more and more different systems of signal transmission (and processing) - without knowing "How it works" there is no what to try to approach even with modern equipment.
    I'm not saying it's not possible; possible, but the level of "initial" knowledge must be much greater than that of several dozen (or even several ...) years ago.
    In my time, it was enough to finish Kasprzak or other technical college with an electronic profile and you had the basics (and a bit of practice) at a level that would allow you to start working on the website (for example). Currently, you can also work in the service, but only as a journeyman ...
    kamilsonek wrote:
    I got two tv's from my neighbor, one of them is plasma

    I understand that you think that Samsung produced only two TV sets, including one plasma TV, and there is no need to enter their designations?
  • #9 16385539
    domin122
    Level 16  
    kamilsonek wrote:
    ... and maybe it is a bit related to electronics, because IT :) [/ img] [/url]

    When you start programming 24 hours a day in college, you will quickly feel like it ... When it comes to computer science, there is no computer science without electronics, and vice versa.
    Unless you want to be a computer scientist like in schools or offices ... Here, sir, translate the disk in the laptop, there you press the square button in the word and stuff ... And then you meet two of them from the same industry and one for the other - I write in C, do you? And the second - there was something about it at school, but I forgot a long time ago ... Or - no, I'm at the Help desk ...
  • #10 16387222
    jarek_lnx
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    that is, I understand that from this direction it will be difficult to make a living in the future
    You wrote specifically about repairing electronics, and in addition to this consumer, mass-produced, cheap and crap. It is hard to expect a bright future for an RTV repairer. There are industries in which electronics cost a lot, and they are quite solid, so if it breaks, it will be repaired and some of it live quite well.
    Quote:

    Eh, I really like to fumble around with electronics and it's a pity that this profession is dying out, luckily there is something else that interests me ... and maybe it's a bit related to electronics, because IT :)

    Information technology and electronics have only common basics, neither a programmer will build an electronic system, nor an electronics engineer will make a large software project.

    You like to "fumble" with electronics, but what does that mean?
  • #11 16387334
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    jarek_lnx , I fully share your opinion. Today, companies selling their products guarantee full warranty and post-warranty service. Unfortunately, apart from the service, no one can repair the product. This is the policy of companies and there is no help for it.
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  • #12 16387336
    Andzin J.
    Level 14  
    Hello
    I do not agree with the previous speakers that the service ceases to pay off, of course the radio, etc. are disposable, but the repair of the laptop after e.g. flooding where the customer was refused warranty repair, another example of repairing electronics in industrial automation and examples can be multiplied. Electronics and programming can be combined by looking at the programming of microcontrollers. It all depends on your persistence in wading through electronics.
    best regards
  • #13 16387482
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    kamilsonek wrote:
    Are there any segregations in the category of science studies, e.g. repairing televisions, repairing telephones, computers or is it rather learning everything at once? I am more interested in repair, if there are such departments, it is repairing tv, computers.
    Now getting repaired less and less.
    Go to the computer market, good computers including WIN 7 for PLN 140-300.
    Complete.
    TV repair - you must have documentation and manufacturer teams.
    The manufacturer provides this only to services - company services.
    The current TV is TV + 4-core computer.
    The equipment is very cheap - and repairs need to be done.
    Computer science is a different field.
  • #14 16387564
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    You're right, buddy. The websites are down. Service of (modern) devices consists in replacing one component (board) with another - new one. In the case of a warranty repair, there is nothing to worry about (costs), but if it happens after the warranty expires, the replacement of such a PCB will be approximately the same as 3/4 of the new ("better") equipment model ...

    But what about the fun for which many young people still pick something after all?
    Electronics as such is not only repair in service stations, but (and there is still scope for it) and creating your own, often unique, devices.
    Can you buy a set of computer speakers? You can. But you can do them yourself. While the fun of buying a set passes on average after a few days, making it yourself lasts and lasts - until you want to do something better, bigger, different ... Perhaps with time it will be not only fun with a hobby, but also grounds for a profession ?
    Nobody will teach you to write programs to control industrial devices in a few days on a course - for this you must have mastered the basics, know "how to do it" - and you will learn it best and most effectively by writing your own programs - from the simplest to the more complicated . It is the same with electronics - without your own contribution to theoretical and PRACTICAL foundations, you will not come to designing a TV (even those mentioned above).
  • #15 16387734
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    kamilsonek It is true that you are unlikely to take care of repairs, but electronics is a great adventure, a condition you must be good at this topic.
  • #16 16388726
    Andzin J.
    Level 14  
    Well, repairing a laptop is unprofitable when you replace the motherboard instead of, for example, upload a new soft

Topic summary

A middle school student is exploring a career in electronics, particularly in repairs of devices like televisions and computers. The discussion highlights the challenges of pursuing a repair-focused career due to the increasing complexity of modern electronics and manufacturers' practices that discourage repairs. Recommendations for resources include websites like elportal.pl and books such as "The Art of Electronics" by Horowitz and Hill, and "Electronic Devices" by Daniszewski and Żyburt-Wasilewska. The importance of understanding electronic circuits and practical knowledge is emphasized, along with the potential for combining electronics with computer science. The conversation also touches on the declining viability of repair professions and the need for a solid theoretical foundation in electronics.
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