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Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design

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    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    EMC compliance tests and pre-certification measurements in the design of electronic devices.

    Nearly every electronic device intended for commercial use is subject to electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) tests. Each company planning to sell its products in a given country must ensure that the product has been tested for compatibility in accordance with the requirements introduced by the national regulator of that country. In the USA, the regulations governing the principles of testing devices for electromagnetic compatibility are established by the Federal Communications Commission, based on guidelines and detailed procedures developed by CISPR ( International Special Committee on Radio Interference ) and IEC ( International Electrotechnical Commission ).

    To legally sell products, an electronic product sample must pass a series of detailed tests. In many cases, manufacturers carry out the appropriate tests themselves and declare that the device meets the requirements of the relevant standards, but must have a detailed report showing the conditions and results of the measurements performed. Many companies choose a different path, commissioning such tests to specialized laboratories that have the necessary accreditation. Measurements checking whether a given product meets all the requirements described in detail in the applicable measurement specification of devices are called compliance tests.

    Full compliance tests strictly follow the guidelines and settings, and their results can be the basis for issuing a certificate of compliance of the device with the requirements of the test procedures. However, this type of testing can be costly and may require a specialized test environment and hardware that may not be available for many companies.

    One method of reducing the additional costs associated with ensuring that a designed circuit complies with electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) standards is to perform compatibility measurements throughout the design process, before sending the finished device for full compliance testing. Such pre-certification tests can be very cost effective and can be performed in such a way as to come closer to the conditions used in conformity testing. Such measurements will increase the certainty of passing the compliance tests the first time, reduce the costs associated with these tests and accelerate the product launch.

    We will discuss pre-certification test methods that can be used to locate potential EMC problems in the circuit under design. Our goal is to make it easier for the reader to learn about the EMI / EMC tests used in the world using simple tools and measurement methods.

    Radiated disturbance measurements / measurementsclose fields

    A non-intentional radiator is a device that generates radiation in the RF band resulting from its construction or constituting a side effect of its operation. Put simply, a non-intentional radiator is very similar to a radio transmitter transmitting noise on many radio channels simultaneously. Such radiation can adversely affect other devices that receive such unwanted signal.

    One of the basic tests is the measurement of radiated emissions by the product with the spectral analyzer with the antenna placed a few meters from the device under test. This test is called far-field radiated emissions measurement, and its block diagram is shown in Figure 1.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 1: Simplified block diagram of the radiated emissions test.


    In this test, we simply connect the antenna to the spectral analyzer and measure the input signal in the desired frequency range. While the idea behind measurement is simple, there are a few major measurement considerations to keep in mind:

    1) Most antennas are broadband. This means that they perceive a wide range of frequencies and do not distinguish signals from sources outside the measured area from the actual signals of the tested device. For this reason, any measurements made via the antenna are very sensitive to other RF signals, such as signals from radio stations, WiFi, etc.

    2) Also other environmental factors (metal shelves, desks, people, etc.) adversely affect the measurements. This is due to reflection and absorption of signals in the environment, which makes accurate and repeatable measurements almost impossible.

    Similar equipment is required to successfully conduct complete radiated emission tests, but they also require a test rig where the radiation level of external RF sources that could interfere with the measurements is very low. The so-called open measuring fields Open Air Test Facilities ) are generally located in geographic areas that have minimal radio signals, such as the open prairie in central North Dakota, USA.

    Open measurement fields were very popular in the 20th century, but their number has decreased significantly due to the sharp increase in the number of external RF signal sources. In those days, most RF signals was produced by AM or FM radio transmitters and open measuring fields could be located in areas without a large amount of interference signals. Currently, we have WiFi, Bluetooth transmitters and mobile phones - radio radiation is present everywhere.

    Therefore, other solutions were needed, which appeared in the form of special measurement chambers that suppress external RF signals and minimize reflections of internal RF signals. Such anechoic or semi-reflective chambers fulfill this function, but they cost a lot. A small semi-anechoic chamber measuring just over 1m x 1m can cost over $ 50,000. In most cases the cost is too high for rarely performed measurements.

    Probing of nearby electromagnetic fields is a measurement technique that uses special measuring probes to minimize the influence of RF radiation from the environment. Nearfield probes typically have two design solutions. Magnetic field probes, or H-field probes, have loops that couple the probe to the magnetic fields generated by time-varying currents. Both structures are very sensitive to the distance from the radiation source. To ensure effective measurement, even with a very sensitive analyzer or a connected preamplifier, the probes must be located at a maximum distance of several centimeters from most of the tested radiation sources.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 2: Rigol EMC probes. The loop-terminated probes are H-field probes. The smallest-terminated probes are the electrical component of the field (E-field).


    The simplest test is to configure the spectral analyzer to work with the peak detector and the RBW filter and sweep range settings covering the area standardized by the regulator's requirements for a given device. Then select the H or E probe appropriate for the structure under study and move it over the entire surface of the perimeter (device).

    The orientation of the probe in space (angle, distance) is also important. The probes work like an antenna, capturing radiation from welds, housing openings, tracks, and other circuit elements that may emit RF signals.

    A thorough scan of all circuit components, connectors, knobs, housing openings and welds is essential. Figure 4 shows the use of an H-field probe for testing the emitted radiation.

    For the first test, set the peak detector on the spectral analyzer. This will detect the "worst case" of RF radiation reading and is the quickest way to locate potentially problematic areas. Larger probes allow faster scanning speeds, albeit with a lower spatial resolution.

    Now that you have an understanding of the problem areas, you can get more detailed information using some common techniques. If possible, choose a spectral analyzer that has the standard configuration used in full compliance testing. These include: quasi-peak detector mode, EMI filter, and bandwidth (RBW) settings conforming to the full compliance test requirements for the product under test.

    This type of setup will extend the measurement time, but should be used in problematic areas. Such settings are used in the full compliance test, therefore pre-certification measurements in the same configuration will provide a greater degree of visualization of the electromagnetic disturbance characteristics of the tested structure.

    The memory of many instruments can keep the correction factors for cables and antennas, which allows the observation of a clean signal, without additional errors introduced by the equipment.

    The next step of the emitted interference test procedure is the use of antennas instead of near field probes, a rotating table for the tested equipment (EUT - Equipment under Test ) and, if possible, performing tests in a special room that minimizes the influence of environmental factors (the so-called semi-anechoic chamber). A detailed description of such measurements is beyond the scope of this study.

    Measurements with a set of near field probes

    Emission testing at the PCB level can be performed with a spectral analyzer such as the Rigol DSA815 (9 kHz to 1.5 GHz), a near electric field (E) probe, a near magnetic field (H) probe, and appropriate interconnecting cables.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 3: Rigol DSA815-TG Spectral Analyzer.


    To operate the spectral analyzer with near-field probes (shown in Figure 2), a 50 ? cable terminated with N-type plugs (analyzer side) and SMB plugs (probe side) is required.

    You can also build your own probe from a not too stiff RF coaxial cable. After removing the outer coating of the cable and insulator several centimeters long, the cable should be coiled into a loop and immersed in Plasti Dip or other special liquid insulating mass. Larger diameter loops will pick up smaller signals but will not have the spatial resolution of smaller diameter loops.

    For the first test, set the peak detector on the spectral analyzer. This setting ensures that the instrument captures the "worst cases" of peak RF emissions. This is the fastest way to locate the problematic spots, as it allows you to waste the least time in one place scanning the entire perimeter. Larger probes allow faster scanning speeds, albeit with a lower spatial resolution. Smaller probes, such as E-field probes, provide excellent spatial resolution and can be used to detect RF radiation on single leads of circuit components.

    The orientation of the probe in space (angle to the perimeter plane and distance from the perimeter) is also important. The probes work like an antenna, capturing the emitted RF radiation. Positioning the probe loop as perpendicular to the magnetic field force lines as possible (highest H field strength) maximizes the signal strength at the probe output.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 4: Example of using an H-field probe and spectral analyzer to locate points suspected of excessive interference emission. Note the orientation of the probe tip.


    Care should be taken to scan the welds of screens and covers, openings, paths and other items that may emit RF radiation. Accurate scanning of all circuit components, connectors, knobs, housing openings, and shield can welds is critical in identifying potential locations in the circuit where RF radiation may "leak" to the exterior of the device housing.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 5: Measurement of the emission of the shield ribbon cable with the H-field probe.


    Aluminum foil or conductive tape may be used to cover areas that may be a potential emission source, such as vents, covers, conduit, screen joints, or cable entries through the enclosure. Test these places without foil or tape, then cover them and repeat the probe scan.

    Once problem areas have been identified, more detailed information can be obtained using several common techniques. If possible, choose a spectral analyzer that has the standard configuration used in full compliance testing. These include a quasi-peak detector, EMI filter, and bandwidth (RBW) settings that conform to the full compliance test requirements for the product under test.

    This type of setup will extend the measurement time, but should be used in problematic areas. Such settings are used in the full compliance test, therefore pre-certification measurements in the same configuration will provide a greater degree of visualization of the electromagnetic disturbance characteristics of the tested structure.

    Tips

    A spectral analyzer with near field probes can be useful tools for locating problems with electromagnetic interference (EMI) emissions.
    - When working with the H-field probe, try different orientations in space to isolate emission points.
    - Be sure to test all shield welds, and the contact points of the housing surface, and complete the grounding and shielding effectiveness test.
    - Openings in the housing or shielding boxes emit radiation similar to solid structures. They work like antennas.
    - Ribbon cables and input cables / sockets with poor screening and incorrect grounding are well known causes of radiated emissions.

    Conducted electromagnetic interference measurements

    Measurements of conducted EMI disturbances require the analysis of radio frequency energy that passes from the device or the circuit under test to the low-voltage power grid supplying this device / circuit. RF signals flowing back into the power line can cause interference in the AM radio signal transmission bands. To minimize such interference, it is important to quantify the RF power and frequency that the device produces when connected to mains.

    Like radiated EMI disturbances, conducted disturbances are also measured with a spectral analyzer, but additionally a surge arrester and a network impedance stabilization system (LISN) are required. Line Impedance Stabilization Network ). The LISN circuit isolates the mains from the equipment under test, cuts off all interference generated by the EUT, and interconnects the signals generated by the EUT with the input of the spectral analyzer.

    As with the emission tests, it is best to start by scanning the entire required band with a peak detector with the analyzer. A scan is then performed with a quasi-peak detector to increase the confidence and accuracy of the measurements.

    Configuration of conducted emissions measurements

    The more the measurement system is compatible with the configuration of full compliance tests, the more data obtained will be closer to the results of compliance tests performed by the certification laboratory. But this is not always practical.

    The following block diagrams show the standard recommended electrical and physical configuration of the test bench.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 6: The electrical circuit of the conducted emission test bench.


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    Figure 7: Physical layout of the stand for measurements of conducted emissions.


    Key Issues:

    1. The vertical and horizontal ground planes are typically sheets of metal twice the size of the equipment under test (EUT).

    2. The vertical and horizontal ground planes should be electrically bonded together and grounded.

    3. The tested device must be placed on an insulated table above the horizontal shielding plane. No devices or cables may be between the EUT and the horizontal ground plane.

    4. The LISN is electrically bonded to the horizontal ground plane. LISN is a network impedance stabilization system. Its task is to separate AC disturbances from the conducted disturbances generated by the EUT. The LISN system with rated voltage, current and frequency should be selected appropriately to the device under test.

    5. Make sure that all connecting cables lie freely and do not form coils and thus induction loops.

    6. The spectral analyzer should be located at a distance from the horizontal ground plate, typically not less than 1 m.

    Test procedure

    After setting up the test bench and connecting the LISN system to the ground planes, turn on the analyzer for a minimum of 30 minutes before starting the tests to achieve maximum stability and accuracy.

    Configuration of the spectral analyzer

    - Option: If your analyzer has the ability to set the quasi-peak detection and FCC resolution bands of 200 Hz, 9 kHz and 120 kHz, you can use these to obtain data that will more accurately represent the data collected during actual compliance tests. note that quasi-peak detectors take much longer to complete the scan of the required frequency range.

    - Set the band of the RBW separation filter.

    ATTENTION: The bandwidth is determined by the standard and the type of tested device. For example, the FCC subpart-15 specification sets the RBW band to 9 kHz when testing the EUT in the 150 kHz - 30 MHz band.
    Check national regulations for standards specifying EMC tests applicable to the device under test.
    ATTENTION: Many specifications give limits in dBuV or in V.
    Optional: If the analyzer is capable, set the amplitude scale to V.
    ATTENTION: Some analyzers have a pass / fail selection function that allows you to set the upper limit line. This can be useful when evaluating the spectrum against the limits set by the EMC standard against which the test is performed.
    Any boundary lines can be stored in the internal memory of the analyzer.

    - Set up the positive peak detector on the analyzer. Positive Peak ). This detector will show the highest values, or "worst case" values, in the pre-certification testing.

    - It is recommended to include a transient limiter and an external 10 to 20 dB attenuator in the analyzer input circuit to minimize the probability of damage to the instrument's sensitive input circuits. The attenuator protects the analyzer input circuits from unknown signals that could damage the instrument. It is also used for convenient control of possible overload after checking the background noise spectrum.
    The spectral analyzer has protection circuits, but its input may show transient states (disturbance pulses) too fast for the protection to trip.

    - Set the start and end frequency values specified in the EMC standard applicable to the device under test.

    - Set the RBW filter band in accordance with the value specified in the EMC standard applicable to the device under test.

    Background noise control

    - Apply power to the LISN system.

    - Connect the analyzer to the output of the LISN system.

    - Scan the required frequency range with the peak detector and the input attenuator set to 10 dB.

    Peak value test

    - Disconnect the analyzer from the LISN system.

    - Connect the devices under test (EUT) to the LISN.

    - Reconnect the analyzer to the LISN system. This procedure allows to minimize the risk of damage to the analyzer by the appearance of transient states at its input.

    - Observe the conducted emission spectrum and set the attenuator attenuation value to 20 dB. If the curve on the screen does not change with different attenuation values, it is likely that the analyzer input is not overloaded and the measurement quality will be high. Pre-certification tests can be continued.
    If the spectrum changes value with different attenuator settings, it is likely that the input is overloaded with wideband power and additional attenuation is required. You can compare spectra for 20dB, 30dB etc. until you get a spectrum that will not be subject to changes.
    The smallest attenuation value should be selected at which no errors resulting from input overload are visible.
    In the worst case, it will not be possible to test the EUT with a spectral analyzer. You will need to use a typical EMI receiver with preselection filters

    - Observe the spectrum of conducted emissions and look for frequency fringes that exceed the pre-set cut-off lines. Record the values of these frequencies.

    Quasi-peak scanning

    In the next step, you should scan in detail the frequencies that have exceeded the limits in the previous test.

    - Adjust the analyzer center frequency sequentially to frequencies exceeding the limits.

    - Select an appropriate RBW band and set a sweep range equal to twice the RBW bandwidth.
    For example, if the excessive emission peak is 10 MHz and the RBW is set to 120 kHz, the center scan frequency must be set to 10 MHz and the sweep range of 9.88 MHz to 10.12 MHz.

    - Optional: Change detector to quasi peak (QP).

    ATTENTION: The operation of the quasi-peak detector is based on the charge and discharge times of a standard resonant circuit. This type of detector requires 3 times the scanning time than the peak detector. Therefore, it is best to use quasi-peak scanning only at small sweep ranges.

    - Compare the obtained results with the permissible limit values for the given frequency.

    - It is recommended to keep the conducted emissions 10 dB below the specified limit.

    - It is also recommended to compare the obtained results of the pre-certification tests and measurement configuration (test bench, measurement procedure, measurement equipment settings) with the configuration used by the certification laboratory that will test the EMC compatibility of your product. Doing so will help identify problems in self-certification tests. Careful comparison will save you money in your pre-certification test budget and will increase confidence in your own test results.

    Interference immunity tests

    Products containing electronic circuits can be sensitive to radio interference. Devices exposed to RF interference may be prone to malfunction or malfunction. Products that are harmed by exposure to radio frequency interference are known as susceptible to interference, while products that do not exhibit problems in the presence of radio interference are known as noise immunity.

    Radio interference can cause:

    - Rearrange / mix screen information.

    - Slow down, freezing or blocking (no response to the operation of keys, buttons) of the device.

    - Falsifying or distorting data.

    - System reset or restart.

    Thorough design analysis, including component selection, shielding, and cable selection is the first step to creating a product that is capable of "as expected" performance with a specified RF interference level, but early testing under real environmental conditions is the only sure way. determining whether the developed structure is sensitive to problems related to RF interference

    In the following paragraphs we will try to show how the RF generator and some simple tools allow you to identify the weaknesses of the product design.

    Susceptibility to radiated disturbances

    Tests of susceptibility to radiated disturbances consist in observing the operation of the tested device (DUT) in the field of influence of a known source of RF signals. The signal is provided to the DUT using either antennas for far field tests or near field probes for motherboard level tests.

    defines the frequency range of the test signals as 80-1000 MHz. Such signals may be amplitude modulated with a sinusoidal signal with a frequency of 1 kHz with a modulation depth of 80%. The modulated signal helps to quickly identify current rectification phenomena in sensitive circuit components.

    For far-field tests, an RF signal source, such as the Rigol DSG3000 or DSG800 generators, is connected to an antenna positioned a meter or two from the DUT. Source RF it is then configured to generate a signal with 80% AM modulation and a modulation frequency of 1 kHz. The amplitude should be set as high as possible and the carrier frequency may be set e.g. to 9 kHz.

    ATTENTION: The DUT should be configured to run in the most used state. All cables (power, I / O, etc.) should be connected and in place. Cables can act as antennas and thus can directly affect the operation of the device.

    Observe the DUT for any changes in operation or problems such as interference or noise on the screen. Then gradually increase the carrier frequency of the test signal and observe the operation of the DUT, recording the carrier frequencies at which problems occur and the nature of the problems. When the tests are completed when reaching the 1 GHz frequency, you can rotate the device under test in relation to the transmitting antenna and repeat the test procedure if a more thorough test is required.

    ATTENTION: Generated antennas should only be used in a shielded anechoic or semi-anechoic chamber so as not to interfere with broadcast and emergency service bands. Broadcasting a radio signal over a wide frequency range is illegal without the appropriate license.

    The use of Rigol's instruments for testing, such as the DSG3000 or DSG800 series generators, provides great flexibility in setting the wavelength, power and modulation of the output signal, which helps in the quick identification of EMC problems of the product.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 8: RF signal sources - Rigol DSG800 and DSG3000 generators.


    Near field tests are helpful as they do not require special test chambers. The E-field and H-field probes produce high-intensity fields less than 3 cm from the probe tip and thus do not cause problems with interfering with broadcasting and emergency services systems. At the same time, their small size allows the RF signal to be fed directly at specific points in the circuits.

    A commercial example of a near field probe is the Rigol EMC probe kit shown below.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 9: Rigol EMC probes. The loop-terminated probes are H-field probes. The smallest end is the E-field probe.


    In the near field tests, the RF signal source is configured the same as in the far field tests, but this time the tip of the probe (acting as an antenna) is placed very close to the circuits or components on the board of each carrier frequency of the test signal. By scanning the entire board surface, observe the DUT and be sure to check for any suspected problem points, especially near sensitive analog circuits.

    In the test shown in the photo below, we removed the shielding can covers from the oscilloscope motherboard and used an E-field probe powered by a DSG3000 generator to output RF signals. for sensitive analog input circuits. As can be seen from the screen view (Figures 11 and 12), with the RF shielding cans removed, the RF radiation deforms the input data and significantly changes the shape of the displayed waveform.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 10: Using a near field probe in an unshielded analog oscilloscope input circuit.


    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 11: Signal on the oscilloscope screen with shielded input circuits.


    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 12: Signal on the oscilloscope screen with the input circuit screen removed.


    Additional tests

    Another useful test is to apply RF signals to cables connected to the DUT using an RF source and a current probe. Cables can also function as a receiving antenna and couple unwanted signals to the device under test. With such a measurement system, it is possible to check the susceptibility of the circuit to external RF disturbances penetrating through the connecting cables by stepwise changing the generator frequency in the entire required frequency band. Commercially available current probes can be used, but an acceptable probe can be built by yourself using a snap-on ferrite core, a few turns of insulated wire, some epoxy glue, and a BNC socket. An example of such a probe is shown in Figure 13.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 13: Homemade current probe.


    To perform this test, connect all cables to the device under test as in normal operation. Configure the RF source for generation with the maximum AM signal strength, such as that used in the previous tests (modulation depth 80%, modulating frequency 1 kHz), clip the probe on the tested cable and observe the operation of the DUT. Carry out such observation for different carrier frequencies. Continue the test until the desired maximum frequency is reached, then repeat the procedure for each cable connected to the DUT.

    ATTENTION: Tests with the current clamp probe should be performed only in a shielded anechoic or semi-anechoic chamber, so as not to interfere with broadcast communication bands and emergency services bands.. Broadcasting a radio signal over a wide frequency range is illegal without the appropriate license.

    To demonstrate the use of the current probe, we performed an experiment on a USB bus powered demo board. We used a DSG3000 generator and a home-made probe fastened to a USB cable connected to the board without a filter, and we observed its output signal.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 14: Magnetic coupling of RF frequency into a USB cable without a filter choke.


    With no RF frequency on the cable, the screen was smooth.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 15: Sine wave from demonstration board without RF interference.


    After turning on the RF signal, the board's waveform started showing signs of distortion. The strongest interference appeared at the 110 MHz carrier frequency, as shown in the figure below.

    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 16: Distorted sine wave output with noise
    at 111.1 MHz due to interference with the USB cable.


    Understanding EMC Compliance Tests and Pre-Certification Measurements in Electronic Device Design
    Figure 17: A section of the waveform showing the disturbance details, enlarged by the Zoom function.


    In conclusion, a source of RF signals such as the Rigol DSG3000 or DSG800 generator and a few simple tools will enable independent testing of the designed device's resistance to interference at an early stage of design works, saving the company's time and money.

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  • #2 16607556
    Kaliber PC - Service

    Level 22  
    Hello.

    Elegantly written, but still I cannot find a clear answer to some questions ...

    If any vendor finds out by researching, let's say your driver designed that it works flawlessly, it does not pose a risk of electrocution, nor does it create external disturbances or it does not collect them from the outside , this producer can just state that it is OK and place it on the market normally ??? I read something there that tests are necessary, but that the company can do it on its own, etc. etc., so I ask how it looks exactly.

    How does this relate to a situation where some electronic circuit plays a role? indirect ? So, for example: some company there XYZ create, shoot, CH pump groups, in which the control of valves / pumps / heaters / anything else is done by some controller (which is not a separate product, but part of this group) - is such tests required also here?

    Questions directed to dispel doubts. :P
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  • #3 16608880
    NDN Warszawa
    Level 12  
    JasnyKris wrote:
    If any manufacturer determines, while examining, for example, its designed driver, that it works flawlessly, does not pose a risk of electric shock, or does not make external or external interference, it may simply state that it is OK and normally introduce market??? I read something there that tests are necessary, but that the company can do it on its own, etc. etc., so I ask how it looks exactly.

    In order to sell the device - especially on the consumer market - it is necessary to meet the appropriate standards regarding EMC safety, etc. The test can be done either by the design company or by outsourcing it to an external entity. The described article concerns preliminary tests - i.e. situations where we want to pre-test a device and then send it for certification tests. With the help of near field probes we are not able to determine the absolute levels of radiation - rather to track the source of radiation and check whether any corrections have brought the intended effect.
    Preliminary testing is intended to help the system design engineer avoid any surprises during the certification testing.
    The certification test kit is much more expensive - for example a chamber, which usually costs at least several hundred thousand. PLN - depending on the size.
    The second application of pre-certification testing is the control of imported devices, e.g. from China. Sometimes it happens that the manufacturers in one of the subsequent batches are able to slightly change the design in order to optimize production costs, which may result in failure to meet the EMC standards.
    Thanks to such tests - we can compare two samples, e.g. in terms of radiation and conducted disturbances, to see if they differ too much from each other. The RIGOL S1210 EMI testing software can superimpose the results of two measurements for quick device comparison.
  • #4 16608892
    Kaliber PC - Service

    Level 22  
    NDN Warszawa wrote:
    The study can do both design company or outsource it to an external entity.

    And here I know everything. ;)

    But what if the electronics play only an indirect role?
    Quote:
    How does this relate to a situation where some electronic circuit plays an intermediate role? So, for example: some XYZ company will create, shoot, pump groups for central heating, in which the control of valves / pumps / heaters / whatever else is done by some controller (which is not a separate product, but part of this group) - or here required is passing such tests?

    Is it necessary to pass these standards also here, if the new driver / system it is not a separate consumer product ?
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  • #5 16609489
    OldSkull
    Level 28  
    JasnyKris wrote:
    Is it necessary to pass these standards here too, if the new driver / system is not a separate consumer product?

    From what I understand it is about something that is a component for building devices.
    Ready, operating and marketed devices must meet the standards. As far as I know, the components do not have to have EMC - because in many cases it is not possible (e.g. try to test the graphics card without mounting it on the computer motherboard). On the other hand, self-respecting companies still provide a report made under certain specific conditions, so that no one accuses them that a device does not pass the tests through their component.
    Therefore, any shields, controllers (not standalone) etc. generally do not meet any EMC standards.
    And that's why devices composed only of other devices that meet EMC standards must be tested anyway, because it is the finished product that must meet the standards.
    The problem is with kits - here, if the system becomes a ready-made device after assembly, then as such it should also meet the standards. The same is true if there is an accessory for another finished product.
  • #6 16609559
    Kaliber PC - Service

    Level 22  
    Elegant explanations of my problems, thanks gentlemen!
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  • #8 16630512
    Kristek
    Level 16  
    Hello!
    I have KH3961 Lisuna, previously was KH3962 but flew back to China ...
    I would like to compare the results of my tests with a standard or other reputable brand system for testing conducted up to 30MHz.
    Does any of the honorable members of the forum want to conduct a few tests on power supplies? I can send samples (of course without the need to return) of several PSUs to compare the results.
  • #9 16671575
    PPK
    Level 29  
    And everything is OK. The certifying institution has work, the cash register is flowing, the customer is satisfied ........... When my neighbor turns on a certified microwave, the surrounding WiFi receivers are smoking. And then my neighbor fires the WiFi modem with 0 dB power in the antenna, because the certified product is supposed to be limited to -34dB but ........ it can be switched ..... To whom in Poland you can report it .... ...? Anyone. And so around Wojtek, from theory to practice of the half equator.
  • #10 16671635
    gulson
    System Administrator
    Generally, in larger housing estates there is a really serious problem with WiFi coverage, and in particular with the stability of such a link. Everyone interferes with each other, but the fact that they are on one channel is also broadcast by various uncertified devices in this band. It manifests itself in a fading connection, a drop in speed, and even changing the channel doesn't help or helps for a while. Such is the trash can in the air.
  • #11 16674812
    strdaniel
    Level 20  
    Make a donation of five cents on the topic of EMC research and marketing equipment with electronics on board

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    A manufacturer who wants to introduce a device on the market and sell it legally must emphasize "MUST" issue such a device with a CE declaration of conformity, in which he certifies that the device introduced by him complies with the applicable directives and indicates which directive the device meets. In the case of electronics, it is most often LVD - i.e. the so-called low voltage directive 2014/35 / EU, EMC directive 2014/30 / EU, directive on hazardous substances in electrical power plants 2011/65 / EU RoHS directive and sometimes other, e.g. machinery 2006/42 / WE MD Machine Directive.
    And that's it ... The manufacturer must declare compliance with these directives on his own responsibility and in most cases (except for the statutory requirements - e.g. ATEX for mining) no tests or certificates are required and the manufacturer can declare compliance himself, for example, he is convinced and has such knowledge that all requirements of the directives meet ......
    but....
    if anyone proves that they do not meet the requirements because, for example, the competition examines our device during their research and has evidence that, for example, with EMC we network like a TV transmitter ... then market supervision may, having learned about it, test our device on its own or manage documentation, etc. ... if he proves that we do not meet, he can severely punish us, demand the withdrawal of the device from the market at his own expense and impose a huge penalty
    It is even worse if there is any accident involving our device (fire, explosion, electrocution, etc ...) because then the prosecutor comes in, they run and it gets very unpleasant
    So everything is based on the preparation of documentation of our facility. If research has been carried out and there are papers for it - here we will focus on EMC, then we have strong arguments to defend.
    Protocol tests with a certificate carried out in an EMC test center are of course the best, because they give us evidence that an independent, certified company has confirmed, after testing, compliance with selected standards that are harmonized with a given directive (in our case, EMC)
    The EMC Directive contains the general requirements and a list of harmonized standards that should be selected in accordance with the replacement of the device and these standards already contain detailed requirements, for example, regarding the levels of acceptable behavior, emissions, etc. of our device, taking into account the environment in which the device will work. Different requirements are for household appliances, different for industry etc.
    The manufacturer can do EMC tests himself, the so-called laboratory tests in the test center - he will not get a test report and certificate, but the results will be his. This is a much cheaper version, the center simply lends the equipment but does not control and do not conduct tests. This is most often done at the beginning of the research to check whether it makes sense to start certified (expensive) tests or whether there is still need to improve
    And another option is that we carry out our own tests, because we have the equipment or we have such knowledge that the device meets our requirements. In this case, it is also good to have documentation with the analysis of standards prepared. Manufacturers use this route when making changes to their own devices, small, because simply changing the resistor it is a pity to pay a few dozen - several dozen thousand for EMC tests when they were carried out a year ago ...
    You should alsoremember that the standards are constantly updated, if we declare that we have a device that complies with the standard harmonized with EMC and this standard has been withdrawn (version from 2010, superseded version 2015), you should also perform an analysis of compliance with the new standard, if necessary, and tests EMC to repeat - if, for example, the emission levels changed .... Because declaring compliance with the withdrawn standard, we have no right to declare compliance with the directive

    The topic is difficult, confusing, requires a lot of knowledge, you can sometimes introduce something to the market without being aware of our obligations and what is at stake.

    greetings
  • #12 16707374
    cooltygrysek
    Conditionally unlocked
    Everything is nice and beautiful, but life shows something else. Let us take, for example, the equipment from the PRC sold on the EU market. Let it be, for example, laptop power supplies, phone chargers, etc. Have you noticed that some enclosures have a whole bunch of RoHS certificates printed? How much do they have to do with the EMI directives? Let me tell you that as much as for certification and then change the design and kick the soul of God. After plugging in, other devices go crazy. Nobody randomly checks or tests a batch of goods that hits the market. And here's the bigger problem.
    NDN writes that special chambers (50,000 euros?) Are needed for EMI tests, and what for? I would agree that for laboratory or hospital equipment but for the ordinary market? A plain copper Faraday cage is enough. Few people know that in the field, where there is a need for measurements in industrial conditions, the so-called Faraday Tents are used, it is only a fraction of the cost of the chamber.

    Added after 11 [minutes]:

    gulson wrote:
    In general, in larger housing estates there is a really serious problem with WiFi coverage, and in particular with the stability of such a link


    Gulson, as far as I know, in most cases of the district problem with WI-FI corresponds to the cellular network, radar stations, airport directional systems or low-frequency beacons, but I agree that the number of channels is definitely too small. However, take into account that most of the problems with the stability of the link are caused by power supplies from the PRC. And not that they sow into the air, but through the mains, and here is a bigger problem and an even bigger dustbin with impulse peaks. Take into account how many components used to be in power supplies, what were their dimensions in relation to power, how much did they weigh today?
  • #13 16709202
    strdaniel
    Level 20  
    Strictly speaking, the RoHs directive has nothing to do with the EMC directive, it is quite another. ROHs is a directive on hazardous materials and their turnover, of which there is quite a lot in electronics. On the other hand, EMC is electromagnetic compatibility, i.e. how much interference our equipment emits and how much it can withstand and still work properly.
    Well, maybe one thing what they have in common is that when introducing equipment to the market, you must keep both in accordance with all its provisions and it is not about the tested model, but about each individual piece. If the competition and then the market supervision prove that one piece does not meet the requirements, then they will blow the product so much that it turns out whether it is a production error or the whole thing is designed and you have to correct it or withdraw the whole from the market.
    As for faraday cages / tents, as far as I know, their use is completely different from that of EMC testing. We do tests when we want to introduce a device to the market and it can be tested in the chamber. The faraday tent is used to cover the device in order to move it away from the environment in which it works. Because, for example, it is sensitive to interference or works in a highly disturbed environment, e.g. near high-power inverters or some power switches, motors, etc. The purpose of tents is to check whether the device with them will work better, more stable and if in a specific place. he will not disturb others. This, however, can not be the basis for CE stamping and confirmation of EMC compliance.
    There are chambers where they test and tanks so you only have to pay a lot.
    One more note about EMC tests, the standards define the levels of interference and emissions separately for various work environments (intended use), much smaller, e.g. for home use compared to the industrial environment, and of course the most important for medical or military applications.
    There is a whole lot of equipment on the market which, as you say, you can immediately see that it does not meet EMC and works like a reliable radio station, but it is usually equipment marketed in a way that is heavily strained, by some one-day companies, large batches imported from China, probably supervised by He fights with it, but it is probably difficult to grasp and it will not change the fact that everyone who introduced such equipment to the market without adapting to the required EMC or ROHs breaks the law and may be forced to remove this equipment from the market at his own expense ...
  • #14 16709505
    cooltygrysek
    Conditionally unlocked
    As for Faraday tents, please read the offer of the manufacturer of such tents and what they are for, and then comment. My colleague is aware that not all equipment can be tested in the chambers, and these are expensive, and there is a need for field tests, so who would build chambers for transport and weeks of folding. For example, there is a need to measure GSM transmitters on masts or on roofs of buildings. I don't really like building such a chamber quickly. And the tent is more than enough for such measurements.
  • #15 16725373
    strdaniel
    Level 20  
    Enlighten us then?
    Because I honestly do not know, but I would like to find out how electromagnetic compatibility tests of a 30-meter mobile phone transmitter are carried out using a faraday tent?
    It seems to me that a device that sows too much or is sensitive to disturbances, in order to improve its parameters, we put into the tent, but this does not change the fact that the behavior of the device is tested for both disturbances and their emissions, and here a chamber is still needed. I mean devices that can of course be tested. The aircraft carrier will probably not be fully tested, which does not change the fact that all devices are tested separately

    greetings
  • #16 16725865
    PPK
    Level 29  
    There is something I do not understand, please enlighten me professionals ...
    To check EM compatibility of a GHz transmitter, you have to test the WHOLE? Including a 30m mast? FOR WHAT ???
  • #17 16728168
    cooltygrysek
    Conditionally unlocked
    Not with the mast, but with the antenna on the mast, depending on the mast structure, also transmitters (such a tent covers the transmitter or antennas for measurements). Then the azimuth and emission characteristics of the antennas are tested and adjusted.

Topic summary

EMC compliance tests are essential for electronic devices intended for commercial use, ensuring they meet electromagnetic compatibility standards set by national regulators, such as the FCC in the USA. Manufacturers can conduct these tests in-house or outsource them, with preliminary tests helping to identify potential issues before formal certification. Components integrated into larger systems may not require individual EMC testing, but the final product must comply with EMC standards. The discussion also highlights the challenges of ensuring compliance for imported devices and the importance of proper testing environments, such as chambers and Faraday tents, for accurate measurements. Concerns about the effectiveness of certifications and the prevalence of non-compliant devices in the market are also raised.
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