Studying computer science without advanced mathematics in high school

Hello!

I am this year's high school graduate with a biol-chem profile, i.e. I had little in common with computer science or extended mathematics. Quite late I woke up with the fact that I do not want to be a doctor and one of the fields of study that I am considering is computer science at the Opole University of Technology. Why exactly there? Well, I am close to Opole and the faculty of computer science is counted, among others, by points from expanded chemistry.

I passed the high school diploma in advanced subjects in chemistry, biology, English and mathematics, which I took up three months before my final exams. The result of the first three subjects - I bet on chemistry at ~ 60-70% in the worst case, English 90 +%, expanded math - if it is 20%, it will be fine. From basic math, you should enter 100% or close to it.

Now my fundamental question - will they teach me extended mathematics from scratch by undertaking computer science in technical studies? If not, I am afraid that I will not be able to cope with my studies, having to catch up and learn on a regular basis.

Regards!

It's hard to advise, it depends primarily on the nature of a particular university. Basically, the first 5-6 semesters are relatively fun. You do some stupid projections, some programming in object-oriented languages - some database will find that you connect squares with dashes. And then, six months before the end, the ride begins ... and then it begins to fall off, sleepless nights. I gave up after the first semester and went to work - I don't regret it (Gdańsk University of Technology). Because the mass of colleagues who either dropped out right before graduation, wasted 4 years of their lives, or graduated and now, 10 years later, our financial status speaks in my favor anyway. Of course, not in every case, but it is due to many factors.

As for the knowledge itself ... let's face it. Studies will not give you experience. And the employer pays for the experience. And above all, for the real ability to solve real problems - be it programming or any other. So, studies are not the way for me. This is best confirmed by the attitude of employers towards graduates or apprentices. They are not respected, they are used - and they are not able to show any real ability that would deserve respect in the group.

I see. Thank you for your quick and substantive answer. So what alternative is there for someone wanting to learn computer science / programming, other than studies? In my area, work without studies, probably like in many other places, is manual work for the minimum national amount. And others need either studies or experience.

Experience will not build itself. And it starts as usual, i.e. from scratch. I work in the electrical industry and work as a freelance service provider. I work 12 hours a day. For years already. I was just lucky that I do what I like to do, and the hours at home and work do not weigh on me - somehow the same goes. How do I earn - good. But to tell you the truth, it was only recently that I chased away my colleagues who are loading containers in the port.

Experience ... on my example, I have contact with PLC devices of various brands from programming. Well, barges like Siemens or WAGO or others do their courses for specific series of controllers. It costs a nice cash - comparable to a driving license. Siemens organizes regular 2-7 day seminars. Training in new products, training in specific solutions. Such courses must be in your portfolio and you must invest in it.

Because when an employer sees "a graduate of this and that", he knows nothing. You might as well be a graduate of anything. But as you say you have 15 courses and "proficiency level 3" in Siemes Simatic S7. It is the employer who knows that he will let you on the working production line and you will cover EVERYTHING, no matter what happens and his ass can sleep peacefully. And he will pay for it ... and it will pay well for it. This is such an example.

I do not have such courses, but we have programmers in the company who invest in this direction and they write programs and introduce changes in accordance with the assumptions that, among others, we prepare "on napkins" or somehow by hand, we discuss orally how and what it should work and they turn it into working code that we then apply to the machines.
How do you get paid? It's good enough that you sit at the job for 300 hours and it's not a cause of frustration.

It's not easy. But it's definitely worth it. Thanks again and best regards!

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Pong.Chu you rightly say. So what if the guys from UR can replace half of the control cabinet with their eyes closed, load the program (you have to clearly distinguish between loading and writing a program) generally keep the "machine" moving when they fall on a simple "simple" modification due to lack of knowledge of higher mathematics . It will come, for example, to calculate the enthalpy of steam for changing conditions, to take into account e.g. air humidity and some other miracles 10 variables from sensors, and the formula itself on 3 pages of A4 is perfect with integrals and other differentials. A man after graduation will get it, or at least he will know which church he is calling from He will get XX zlotys for his programming work, and whoever will wire it, will generally get X zlotys.

Ps. There is not everything on the Internet, because who would want to rewrite formulas or describe issues that maybe 100 people use. Those who use know in which book it is from 1970. is described ?