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Revive Your UPS with a Maintenance-Free Car Battery: Affordable Solution for Power Outages?

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  • #1 1964136
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    Can a maintenance-free car battery be connected to the UPS? The original "battery" has worn out and I'm looking for a cheap way to resuscitate the UPS. Are there any contraindications?
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  • #2 1964343
    wrobel19
    Level 14  
    battery cannot be connected
  • #3 1964502
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    But why?
    The UPS has too little charging current?
    Can a car battery give too much current?
    The UPS has a 12V battery, so the voltages match.
  • #4 1964516
    jgarbien
    Level 15  
    The UPS will not survive a charge or will not charge a battery with much more than the nominal capacity. In addition, the charging time will be significantly extended, which entails a high chance of a power outage with frequent power failures
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  • #5 1964537
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    And if the battery is charged, I will connect it only in the event of a power failure. UPS as backup "generator". So: the charged battery is in the car in front of the house, my power is turned off and then I take the UPS out of the cabinet, I go to get the battery, plug it in and see if there are any contraindications for the UPS to power my laptop, TV and, for example, a bedside lamp for 5 hours. The UPS is 1000VA.
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    #6 1964586
    jgarbien
    Level 15  
    There are no contraindications. How much will it support you: add up the load power in watts or volt-amperes and check the backup time table on the manufacturer's website or in the UPS manual.
    For example, APC SMART 1000XL pn:SUA1000XL with a load of 400W supports about 33 minutes (2 pcs 12V/18Ah batteries connected in series, i.e. 48V/18Ah) a larger battery will last longer, but in a non-linear way in relation to the smaller one! 2h33min with the use of an additional manufacturer's extension with 4 18Ah batteries, i.e. to the previous +24V/36Ah additionally 24V/54Ah
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    #7 1964750
    Zbyszek_64
    Level 24  
    I use a UPS to power a certain device and power it with a 12V / 60Ah battery. On the secondary side there is a load of about 200W. When there are frequent switches to emergency power, I disconnect the battery and charge it with a car charger. In my case, it works flawlessly. Regards.
  • #8 1965341
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    That's it. I want to use the same solution. Thanks for the help. Regards.
  • #9 1986264
    hur
    Level 15  
    If it helps someone, I would like to inform you that I have been using UPS power from the stair car battery in my car for several years, not only that, my UPS needs a 24 V battery and for this purpose I carry an additional battery (also 60 Ah) which I temporarily charge via a simple switch system from car power system.
    It all works flawlessly.
    You would sometimes need to see the faces of customers who notice how I turn on devices (drills, grinders, lamps) for 220 V in the trunk.
    Through their open mouths, I can sometimes see the color of the panties they're wearing underneath their pants. :D
  • #10 1986647
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    Eeeenooo, I see that I'm not the first to have such ideas. ;-)
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  • #11 10659853
    primastar
    Level 13  
    Hello ! I wanted to ask if it is possible to connect this car battery to a UPS or not? is it safe? I need a UPS for central heating to power my water circulation pump and 60W blower in the event of a power outage. please help
  • #12 10660228
    zibq
    Level 28  
    primastar wrote:
    Hello ! I wanted to ask if it is possible to connect this car battery to a UPS or not? is it safe? I need a UPS for central heating to power my water circulation pump and 60W blower in the event of a power outage. please help


    The theories are different.
    I will tell you from practice. I have a UPS Smart APC 620 + 45Ah battery in a similar application as you. It has been operating for three years. In winter, it feeds the central heating boiler and solar collectors in the summer.
    Do not connect to a small UPS (e.g. 300VA), it will not produce heat for a long time, the charging system is weak. The bigger ones are fine.
  • #13 10848639
    primastar
    Level 13  
    hey guys and how will he use the cooling system? will it work then?

    This forum is subject to Polish spelling rules - correct this post!
    [Acres]
  • #14 10858798
    test-automatyka
    Level 16  
    Hello,
    connect as much as possible. We used such a system at the control cabinet. It works flawlessly.

    Regards
  • #15 12775358
    Thunder6995
    Level 13  
    Hello colleagues.
    I have feedback and a question :)
    I have a 700VA UPS.
    Originally it had 6.5Ah.
    It was supposed to be scrapped after a dead battery, but luckily it got to me.
    I presented him with 2x 18Ah permanently mounted outside the UPS, I pulled new wires (25mm^2) which I soldered directly, so there is a cut in the housing and you can see a piece of PCB. By the way, I did not spare the tin to strengthen the paths to the mosfets and to the transformer wires (which I soldered, not on the pins).
    In addition, I installed a 12cm PSU ATX fan from the bottom, which is on the switch.
    Effect :?:
    At maximum load, it is able to work for up to half an hour (the set I have connected to it is 500W without a dozen or so watts, the rest was maintained by the halogen 0.5kW. With such a load, I turn on the fan (if I have time, I will install an automatic temperature system) .
    With a lower load (about ~150W) it worked for over 4 hours, the fan on forces circulation around the heatsinks and PCB in general, summer air escapes, so my "operation simulation" worked - it is necessary).
    Charging 36Ah instead of ~7Ah takes a lot - about 1.5 days, but I support it with a gel charger, and treats it to a voltage of 13.6V (it charges itself to 13.55V), but it can do it itself as I mentioned.
    And now the question about the mentioned "acids" - as with the charging voltage :?:
    As a standard, UPS maintains a voltage of 13.4V - 13.6V with a charged battery - as in the case of an acid case :?:
    I am specifically interested in gassing the "car" battery at this voltage.
    It will be safe :?:
  • #16 16434930
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    Thanks for the help. I'm closing the topic.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a maintenance-free car battery as a replacement for a worn-out UPS battery. Initial responses indicate that connecting a car battery directly to a UPS is not advisable due to potential issues with charging current and capacity mismatches. However, users share experiences of successfully using larger batteries with UPS systems, emphasizing the importance of matching the UPS specifications and load requirements. It is noted that while a car battery can be used in emergencies, the UPS's charging capabilities may be limited, and users should calculate the load to ensure adequate backup time. Several users report successful implementations with various battery sizes and UPS models, highlighting practical applications and modifications for enhanced performance.
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