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Where to find schematic and firmware for KFR-35W AC inverter?

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  • Request for Renesas inverter board markings

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    ahmedaminegueddim
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    Where to find schematic and firmware for KFR-35W AC inverter? Close-up of a green PCB with a finned heatsink, capacitors, and white connectors on a wooden surface
    @ElektrodaBot I want schematic diagram and firmware of the AC inverter model KFR-35W.
    Close-up of a green PCB with a heatsink, capacitors, and white connectors on a wooden surface.

    AI: What is the brand/manufacturer and full model number from the AC nameplate, not only KFR-35W?
    Yes.
    AI: Can you share photos or markings of the inverter PCB/control board, and say why you need the firmware/schematic, e.g. dead board, error code, damaged MCU, etc.?
    Renassas
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  • No public schematic or readable firmware available

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    ahmedaminegueddim wrote:
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    @ElektrodaBot I want schematic diagram and firmware of the Ac inverter model KFR-35W
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    Initial assessment of available information

    From your photos, the board is not only “KFR-35W”. The important marking appears to be:

    KFR-35W/BP3N1-(RX24Tmini+STR6A161+GIB10CH60TS-L+TPD4204F).D.13.WP2-1
    Board / spare part number visible on similar listings: 17122000048121
    PCB date marking visible in your photo: 2020-07-15

    This matches a Midea-type outdoor inverter controller family sold under similar KFR-35W/BP3N / BP3N1 descriptions; some listings omit the final “1”, so the full bracketed IC combination and board number must be matched, not just “KFR-35W”. Replacement-board listings exist with the same RX24Tmini + STR6A161 + GIB10CH60TS-L + TPD4204F string and with part number 17122000048121. (newegg.com)

    Direct answer to the question

    1. Full original schematic:
    I do not have a public, component-level schematic for this exact PCB. For these AC inverter boards, manufacturers normally publish only wiring diagrams, connector diagrams and PCB layout diagrams, not the complete circuit schematic. A service manual for the same KFR-35W/BP3N1 family shows PCB diagrams, connector names, IPM area, EEPROM programmer port/test port, compressor U/V/W, reactor, PMV and fan connectors, but it is not a full electrical schematic. (manuals.plus)

    2. Renesas firmware:
    The main firmware is most likely inside the Renesas RX24Tmini MCU, not in a normal removable memory chip. The RX24T family is a motor-control MCU intended for inverter/PWM applications and includes on-chip flash memory and motor-control peripherals. (renesas.com)
    If the MCU is protected, the firmware normally cannot be read out without the correct Renesas ID/security information; Renesas documentation for RX24T includes ID-code protection and ROM-code protection mechanisms. (renesas.com)

    3. What may be downloadable as “firmware”:
    Many repair sites call the small EEPROM / FRAM parameter file “firmware”. For this board family, there is an online repair-file entry for Carrier 38QHG012D8s with the same main-board string, but it lists FM24C16D and a file size of about 0.95 kB, which strongly indicates an external nonvolatile parameter dump, not the Renesas MCU program. (remont-aud.net)

    So: I can help you repair or reverse-engineer the board, but I cannot honestly provide the original manufacturer schematic or protected Renesas MCU firmware. If your problem is an EEPROM/F4/E0 error, the external memory dump may be the relevant item, not the MCU firmware.

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    Detailed problem analysis

    1. What the board contains

    Based on your PCB marking and component set, the functional structure is approximately:

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    The compressor power module marking in the board identifier, GIB10CH60TS-L, corresponds to the STMicroelectronics STGIB10CH60TS-L, a 600 V, 15 A three-phase IGBT IPM with internal gate drivers, bootstrap functions, fault/shutdown functions and protection features. (st.com)

    The STR6A161 part in the board marking is a Sanken offline flyback converter IC; distributor data describes the STR6A161HZ as an isolated flyback AC/DC converter IC with internal switch, 700 V breakdown rating and 100 kHz operation. (digikey.com)

    The TPD4204F part is a Toshiba 600 V high-voltage PWM brushless DC motor driver IC, used in appliance fan-motor applications. Toshiba’s current product page also notes it as EOL announced / not recommended for new design, so if it is faulty, use the exact replacement part rather than designing it into new hardware. (toshiba.semicon-storage.com)

    2. Why the schematic is hard to obtain

    Manufacturers of inverter HVAC boards usually separate documentation into:

    Document typeUsually available?Usefulness
    Installation wiring diagramYesShows L/N/S, compressor, sensors, fan, PMV
    Service manual PCB diagramSometimesShows connector names and rough component positions
    Component-level schematicRarelyUsually proprietary
    MCU firmware source codeNoProprietary manufacturer software
    MCU binary imageRarelyUsually protected or only in service tools
    EEPROM/parameter dumpSometimesUseful for E0/F4/EPROM errors


    For this KFR-35W/BP3N1 family, service documents show troubleshooting for E0/F4 EEPROM parameter error, E1 communication error, and P0 IPM/over-current protection, but the service action is typically “replace PCB”, not “repair component X”. (manuals.plus)

    3. Firmware versus EEPROM dump

    This distinction is important:

    ItemLocationCan it usually be read?Repair relevance
    Main control firmwareInside Renesas RX24T MCU flashUsually no, if protectedNeeded only if MCU is blank/dead
    Configuration / parametersExternal 8-pin EEPROM/FRAM, often 24C16/FM24C16D classUsually yesCommon cause of E0/F4/EPROM fault
    Bootloader / option bytesInside MCUProtectedNeeded for factory programming


    If your AC shows F4, E0, “EPROM”, EEPROM parameter error, then do not start by replacing the Renesas MCU. First check the external 8-pin nonvolatile memory near the MCU. A service manual describes E0/F4 as a condition where the indoor or outdoor main chip does not receive feedback from the EEPROM chip. (manuals.plus)

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    Practical repair guidance

    1. If the fault is EEPROM / F4 / E0

    Do this:

    1. Locate the 8-pin nonvolatile memory IC near the Renesas MCU.
    It may be marked something like:
    - FM24C16D
    - 24C16
    - AT24C16
    - BR24C16
    - or a similar I²C memory.

    2. Before writing anything, read and save your original chip contents at least three times and compare the files.

    3. Use a programmer such as:
    - TL866II / T48 / T56,
    - CH341A with correct voltage adaptation,
    - or another I²C EEPROM/FRAM-compatible programmer.

    4. Only write a dump from the same board code and same AC model.
    A dump from another KFR-35W board may boot but can give wrong compressor, fan, PMV or sensor parameters.

    5. If you find a file described as firmware and it is around 1 kB, treat it as EEPROM data, not MCU firmware.

    2. If the board is completely dead

    Check in this order:

    Test pointExpected resultInterpretation
    Main fuseContinuityIf open, suspect bridge/IPM/PFC short
    Bridge rectifierNo short between AC/DC pinsShorted bridge blows fuse
    DC bus capacitorsAround 310–325 VDC on 230 VAC input, higher during PFC operationIf absent, input/bridge/relay fault
    STR6A161 SMPS VccStartup then stable supplyIf pulsing, SMPS overload or bad startup components
    Low-voltage rails15 V, 12 V, 5 V, possibly 3.3 VMissing rails stop MCU
    MCU reset pinShould release from resetStuck reset = supply/reset circuit fault
    MCU clockOscillator activityNo clock = MCU/oscillator/power issue


    Do not power the board repeatedly with a blown fuse or shorted IPM. Use a current-limited supply method, lamp limiter, or isolation transformer where appropriate.

    3. If the compressor does not start / P0 fault

    With power removed and the DC bus discharged:

    1. Disconnect compressor U/V/W.
    2. Put the meter in diode mode.
    3. Check IPM diode paths:
    - DC+ to U/V/W,
    - U/V/W to DC−,
    - compare all three phases.
    4. Any phase reading near 0.00 V or obviously different from the others suggests a shorted IPM.
    5. Also check gate resistors, shunt resistors and current-sense path.

    The service manual for this family defines P0 as IPM malfunction or IGBT over-strong current protection and lists wiring, IPM, outdoor fan, compressor and outdoor PCB as possible causes. (manuals.plus)

    4. If communication error E1 appears

    Check:

    - terminal wiring L/N/S,
    - polarity and tightness of indoor-outdoor wiring,
    - optocouplers in communication circuit,
    - zener diodes and high-value resistors,
    - fluctuating communication voltage on S line.

    A service manual describes E1 as the indoor unit not receiving feedback from the outdoor unit and gives measurement guidance for the S communication voltage. (manuals.plus)

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    Safety notes

    This board has a lethal high-voltage DC bus. The two large electrolytic capacitors can remain charged after unplugging. Before touching the board:

    - disconnect mains,
    - wait,
    - discharge the DC bus through a suitable resistor,
    - verify voltage with a meter,
    - do not short capacitors with a screwdriver,
    - use insulated probes,
    - avoid powering the board on a wooden table with exposed high-voltage parts unless you are experienced with live SMPS/inverter repair.

    Also remember that wrong firmware/EEPROM data can damage the compressor or IPM because it may change compressor type, current limits, fan control, PMV steps or protection thresholds.

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    What I recommend for your case

    Because you already confirmed Renesas, and the photo shows the board string, the practical options are:

    1. If the Renesas MCU is physically damaged:
    Replace the whole board, or transplant the programmed MCU from an identical donor board. A blank RX24Tmini will not work without the correct factory firmware and option settings.

    2. If you have F4/E0/EPROM error:
    Work on the external EEPROM/FRAM first. This is the only realistic “firmware” repair route.

    3. If the board is dead:
    Diagnose SMPS and DC bus first. The Renesas firmware is probably not the fault.

    4. If the compressor trips P0/P4:
    Diagnose IPM, shunts, compressor winding resistance and DC bus stability.

    5. If you just need a replacement:
    Search using the full string:
    KFR-35W/BP3N1-(RX24Tmini+STR6A161+GIB10CH60TS-L+TPD4204F).D.13.WP2-1 17122000048121
    Do not buy only by “KFR-35W”.

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    Questions for you

    To go further, please provide:

    1. The full indoor and outdoor unit model numbers from the nameplates.
    2. The exact fault:
    - dead board,
    - E0/F4/EPROM,
    - E1 communication,
    - P0/P4 compressor/IPM,
    - fan error,
    - blown fuse.
    3. Close photo of:
    - Renesas MCU marking,
    - the 8-pin EEPROM/FRAM chip,
    - IPM marking,
    - underside of the PCB.
    4. Measurements:
    - DC bus voltage,
    - 15 V / 12 V / 5 V / 3.3 V rails,
    - fuse condition,
    - IPM diode-test readings.

    Brief summary

    Your board is a Renesas RX24Tmini-based Midea-type KFR-35W/BP3N1 inverter outdoor PCB. A full original schematic and Renesas MCU firmware are normally proprietary and not publicly available. If your problem is an EPROM/F4/E0 fault, the realistic repair is to read/write the external FM24C16D / 24C16-type parameter memory, not the Renesas MCU. If the MCU itself is dead, replacement of the complete board or an identical donor-board transplant is usually the practical solution.
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