Can I use the laptop with the adapter plugged in with the battery removed?

iamtheone wrote:

I will put in today because I have the manual in electronic form

The instructions show that the battery should be charged, but not to drop the self-discharge below 30-40%. Because how else to interpret this passage:

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keep it after charging in a state of 30 to 40% of its charge

?

Vogelek23 wrote:

iamtheone wrote:

I will post today because the instructions are in electronic form

The instructions show that the battery should be charged, but not to drop the self-discharge below 30-40%. Because how else to interpret this passage:

Quote:

keep it after charging in a state of 30 to 40% of its charge

???

That the battery during storage should be charged in the state of 30-40%.
I do not know what to interpret here, you have it clearly written.

Meanwhile, good night.

iamtheone wrote:

you have it clearly written

Well, not really, maybe it is a colleague who has a problem with understanding the written text?
If it had been written "please keep it after recharging to condition from 30 to 40% of its charge " that would be clear and indisputable.
However, what is actually written in the manual cannot be interpreted in this way, unfortunately, as my colleague wrote.

You can also charge it to 100% and then discharge it to 30-40 and everything is fine:> And I have no problems with reading comprehension, but rather a 'friend' with logical thinking.
If you have any doubts about the `` interpretation '' of the instructions, I encourage you to write to Samsung

iamtheone wrote:

I wrote, and what is the contradiction here? :>

After all, what consumes it more by not using or using it?

iamtheone wrote:

I will put it today because I have instructions in electronic form = I do not have to look for it

I meant more about the values:

iamtheone wrote:

the electrolyte does not like it when it has too much / too little lithium ions in it.

Because on what basis do you think that a charged battery wears out quickly?

iamtheone wrote:

What portals:
http://www.komputerswiat.pl/poradniki/sprzet/...aptopie-jak-o-nia-dbac-i-jak-ja-wymienic.aspx
http://www.wybieramlaptopa.pl/tips-tricks2/19...tkowac-baterie-w-laptopie-praktyczny-poradnik
http://www.idg.pl/news/377317/jak.przedluzyc.zycie.baterii.w.laptopie.html

And you read at least these pseudo articles because the one from IDG and I choose a laptop is simply ridiculous, the editor's arguments without any evidence, the rest of these articles do not say unequivocally to remove or leave the batteries, the one from the world computer is also no article and read the comments in these "articles", also this:

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Continuous operation with the connected power supply is very disadvantageous for the battery. The battery is then frequently recharged in short cycles - if the energy level drops to 95 percent, for example, charging begins.

do you know how much it takes for the battery power to drop to 95% when idle?
Certainly not overnight, if the battery has good cells, they keep energy for a long time and the battery does not require recharging at all

iamtheone wrote:

You can also charge it to 100% and then discharge it to 30-40 and everything is fine

Perhaps let other colleagues assess the sense of the sentence in the instructions and confirm (or disprove) the logic of thinking of the colleague (and mine, by the way). I stand by my side, believing that the logic of my colleagues is very twisted in this matter.

iamtheone wrote:

If you have any doubts about the `` interpretation '' of the instructions, I encourage you to write to Samsung

No, thanks. I know a lot of these Samsung service consultants who graduated from a technical college, as well as a tailor's school.

----- EDIT -----

If a colleague had any doubts as to the correctness of MY interpretation of the text in the manual - here is a thread on how the loading control systems work in modern constructions: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2167999.html
It follows clearly that if we have a fully charged battery and the degree of its charge (with continuous operation on the power supply) will drop below 50-60% over time, only then recharging is started.
Therefore, the phenomenon of cyclical recharging of the battery with a 3% decrease in the degree of charge no longer occurs here.

Vogelek23 wrote:

It follows clearly that if we have a fully charged battery and the degree of its charge (with continuous operation on the power supply) will drop below 50-60% over time, only then recharging is started.

Yes, but it does not change the fact that the battery is recharged quite often then, and this is probably not good for the health of the battery.
In my opinion, it is better not to use the battery if it is not necessary.

Bródka wrote:

After all, what consumes it more by not using or using it?

It depends on the way we treat our battery. Surely the worst option for a battery is to store it completely discharged. Then we can say that not using it is harmful. But it is also a bad option to keep the battery in the laptop all the time if we are "driving on the power adapter" all the time. Wear and tear cannot even be prevented by "electronics", that is, limiting punching charging cycles, although this wear may slow it down. Then we can say that use is harmful to the battery.
In my opinion and the instructions for my computer (I will not mention consultants and portals because I see that you have some trauma to them), the best way to minimize battery consumption is to remove it and store it in a 30-40% charged state (it is admitted that earlier I overestimated these "forks" saying that the battery should be charged in 30% -80% during storage).

Bródka wrote:

I meant more about the values:
iamtheone wrote:
the electrolyte does not like it when it has too much / too little lithium ions in it.

What, should I count them? ;>

In conclusion, these lengthy arguments
1.everything wears out when used, aka ...
2. Accumulator batteries have a certain number of cycles to withstand
3.the way of use affects the durability of everything, aka ...

4.Backing back to the merits:
"Can I use the laptop with the AC adapter plugged in with the battery removed?"
YES

and EOT.

As I wrote above, I started the topic :D

I will "work" on the power supply and the battery will be inserted. Sometimes it is ... every two weeks I disconnect the power supply and let the battery discharge to about 30% and connect the power supply again, etc ...

Thank you for writing so much here, but I already know what's going on and I'm thinking about closing the topic :)

Added after 1 [minutes]:

artaa wrote:

4.Backing back to the merits:
"Can I use the laptop with the AC adapter plugged in with the battery removed?"
YES

OK, I also think about it more or less :)

I greet everyone!


EDIT; on 2013.06.08

All the time I adhere to what I wrote above in my post. I just wanted to add that after disconnecting the power supply, the battery keeps me about 1 hour and 25 minutes, which is so many years and I can at least recommend it to everyone in this model of a Samsung laptop. ;-)

Best regards .