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Power Cable Selection for 25kW, 200m 3-Phase Connection: Copper vs Aluminum, 4x35 vs 5x35]]>

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  • #1 10349968
    impra-show
    Level 2  
    Hello. I need help with the cross-section of the cable to the power connection. I have about 200 meters of cable to lay in the ground to connect the pole and the box at the plot boundary. The connection is to be three-phase with a power of 25kW (I am planning to build a house with electric heating. I will apply to the operator for a 16kW connection, but by laying the cable I want to protect myself against possible higher consumption. I have read many statements about aluminum wires and copper cross-sections, etc. I am a complete layman on this subject and I don't know if, for example, a 4x35 aluminum cross-section is enough or must be, for example, 5x35, etc. If someone could help me, I would be grateful. answers
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  • #2 10350395
    Marcinzabrze
    Level 17  
    Hello.
    As for the number of wires, I suggest 5 because in the future the power plant may change the installation from 4 to 5 wire.
    As for the cross-section, 25mm? of copper or 35mm? of aluminum is enough; Copper is definitely better but also more expensive;
    So 5x25mm? Cu or 5x35mm? Alu.
    Regards

    Moderated By retrofood:

    I advise you to think twice before giving such "advice" in the future

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  • #3 10350473
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Hello.

    And why not 6 ... lived?
    In the future, the power plant may change the installation from 5-wire to 6-wire.
    Regards.
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  • #4 10350572
    michalekk1
    Level 24  
    Marcinzabrze wrote:
    Hello.
    As for the number of wires, I suggest 5 because in the future the power plant may change the installation from 4 to 5 wire.
    As for the cross-section, 25mm? of copper or 35mm? of aluminum is enough; Copper is definitely better but also more expensive;
    So 5x25mm? Cu or 5x35mm? Alu.
    Regards

    In the context of 200m distance from the connector, your proposal is ... not good ;)

    Alu cable, because it's cheaper and give the cross-section with a margin. That is, as it comes out of power and a step higher. It should "touch".
  • #5 10350613
    emus
    Level 16  
    Cable YKY 4x25mm? or YAKY 4x35mm?
    You can do the division of PEN into PE and N at home.
  • #6 10351671
    GBW
    Level 31  
    Why not just look at the project?
  • #7 10351954
    impra-show
    Level 2  
    There is no project yet. Due to the possibility of repurchasing a 4x35 mm aluminum cable, I am asking if 200 meters is enough
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  • #8 10352000
    adamblonsky
    Level 15  
    Hello!
    maybe do the project first so that you don't have problems when you receive it
    p.s. I have all 5-wire or 3-wire cables with a new installation.
  • #9 10352052
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Hello.
    adamblonsky wrote:
    p.s. I have all 5-core or 3-wire cables with a new installation.
    And I have /lived/
    2-buttons;
    3-splines of single lamps and sockets;
    4-chandeliers, cable lines and some 3-F motors;
    5-storey sub-distribution boxes, kitchen stoves, etc.;
    And I'm not proud :D
  • #10 10352231
    jarecki 86
    Electrician specialist
    If you ask buddy party show about an Al cable with a cross-section of 35mm?, I answer that it is much too "thin", because the voltage drop on it will be over 2.5%.
    And according to the standard, it should be up to 0.5%.
  • #11 10352673
    Duduś74
    Moderator of HydePark
    With this power, distance and ALU, it's about 120mm?.
  • #12 10352698
    jacur
    Level 32  
    impra-show wrote:
    Hello. I need help with the cross-section of the cable to the power connection. I have about 200 meters of cable to lay in the ground to connect the pole and the box at the plot boundary.


    If there is a distance of 200 m from the pole to your plot border, it will be done by an external company commissioned by the local energy company and the only thing you can do is agree with the contractor to increase the cross-section of the power cable.
  • #13 10354279
    impra-show
    Level 2  
    From the pole along the road to the border of the plot is 50 m, then on two plots an easement of access is established and it is a section of 150 meters to the border of my plot. All connection works will be performed by the company indicated by me, and only the connection to the pole, probably from the ZE (I do not know exactly). Regarding the project, I know that if it decides to, for example, 4x35, it will be approved, so it's not a problem. I mean only purely technical aspects, if the connection will be 25kW, I will turn on the stove, 9kw washing machine, heating, etc. The cable I am talking about will withstand it and will I have electricity or Egyptian darkness at home :-) A colleague proposes a 120mm cross-section, I do not question anyone's knowledge (I do not have one myself in this topic) but is this not an exaggeration?
  • #14 10354351
    jacur
    Level 32  
    impra-show wrote:
    All connection works will be performed by the company indicated by me, and only the connection to the pole, probably from the ZE (I do not know exactly).


    Find out carefully, because the company you want to hire should have authorizations from the local ZE for this type of work, because after the investment is completed, ZE takes over the entire connection cable on its property and takes care of its operation.
  • #15 10354409
    gaw
    Level 11  
    Have you talked to ZE about joining? For me, I declare the required power, and they put a meter on me and the ZE has to pull the cable to the meter. Will you put the meter on a pole 200 m from the house?
    best regards.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting the appropriate power cable for a 25kW, 200-meter, 3-phase connection. Users debate the merits of using copper versus aluminum cables, with suggestions for cross-sections ranging from 4x35mm to 5x35mm. While copper is acknowledged as superior but more expensive, aluminum is recommended for its cost-effectiveness, albeit with a caution regarding voltage drop. Some participants suggest considering a larger cross-section, such as 120mm, to accommodate potential future power needs and minimize voltage drop. The importance of consulting with the local energy company (ZE) for proper installation and compliance is also emphasized.
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