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Understanding Open Collector Outputs and Their Role in Display Control

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  • #1 1166270
    Nieztejbajki
    Level 15  
    Hello!

    Please don't laugh, I'm a layman and I don't really know what this open collector is all about. If someone could explain this to me in an accessible way (lopathologically) or provide some information on this subject, I would be grateful.

    More specifically, I mean can I control, for example, a display with open collector outputs?

    Greetings
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  • #2 1166308
    lordac
    Level 15  
    In my opinion, you need information such as: logical multiplication can be performed on the bus with this type of gates.

    As far as circuit issues are concerned, it is a standard TTL output without a resistor that polarizes the output stage; this resistor is common for all gates connected to the bus.
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    #4 1166402
    Paweł Es.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    In my opinion, Lordac, you should become a lawyer, you already have the twists of translation.

    First of all, TTL gates do not use output pull-up resistors, because this extends the turn-off time and increases power consumption.

    In a normal gate, the high state is forced by the emitter follower and the low state by a transistor in the common emitter circuit that shorts the output to ground.

    In open collector gates, the output stage has only the lower transistor, which means that it can force the output to be low.
    The high state must be forced by external elements.

    This system can control a display with a common anode and using a series resistor limiting the current flow.

    R=(Ucc-Ucesat-Ud)/Id

    Where

    Ucc - supply voltage
    Ucesat - gate output transistor saturation voltage (0.2V-0.4V)
    Ud - forward voltage of the light-emitting diode (segment)
    Id - diode (segment) current.

    If we control in a multiplex system where we turn on N displays successively, the resistor must be N times smaller than the one obtained from the above formula to maintain the average value of the segment current equal to Id. However, you should remember about the protection that turns off the display when the sweep is stopped (without this, there will be a small boom and the currently lit display segments will fly.

    When controlling high-voltage components, systems with increased output voltage should be used.

    It should also be remembered that the total current drawn from the outputs of one system cannot exceed the maximum common-mode current and the power dissipated in the system cannot exceed its maximum power (the sum of the power dissipated in all output transistors < Pmax).
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  • #5 1166439
    lordac
    Level 15  
    Because Paweł, you're almost right about the lawyer... :D

    And of course in the rest of the content too....
  • #6 1166688
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #7 1167100
    Nieztejbajki
    Level 15  
    Thanks to everyone, especially Paweł. Now I know what it's about.

Topic summary

Open collector outputs are a type of TTL (Transistor-Transistor Logic) output that can only pull the output low, requiring external components to pull the output high. This configuration allows for logical multiplication on a bus and is suitable for controlling displays, particularly those with a common anode. To control a display, a series resistor is necessary to limit current flow, calculated using the formula R=(Ucc-Ucesat-Ud)/Id, where Ucc is the supply voltage, Ucesat is the saturation voltage of the output transistor, Ud is the forward voltage of the display segment, and Id is the current through the segment. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the role of external pull-up resistors in open collector configurations and their application in multiplexing systems for display control.
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