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  • #1 12729435
    Makro1993
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    Such a spider lived on my garage wall - anyone know what model it is? :D

    Spider - what model is it? Spider - what model is it?
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  • #2 12729499
    Sołtys_Elbląga
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    Black widow but premenstrual because there is no red spot on her back.
  • #3 12729556
    andk1eltd
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    Our good crusader. There are not many species of this creature in Poland.
  • #4 12730726
    c4r0
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    It looks like a cross but all black. Maybe anti-albino.
  • #5 12731528
    bmserwis
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    Isn't it a male tarantula spider by chance - the gnat spider?
  • #6 12732944
    andk1eltd
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    bmserwis wrote:
    Isn't it a male tarantula spider by chance - the gnat spider?

    It's out - tarantulas are all "hairy", including the abdomen; the legs are also more stocky.
  • #7 12732961
    karolark
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    I'll chime in, I didn't know we had tarantulas - I always learned something new from elk :-)
  • #8 12733000
    andk1eltd
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    In natural conditions there are no tarantulas in Poland - but you never know what people keep under their beds :D
  • #9 12733281
    Gizmoń
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    I don't know what model, but I know what tool you will need:

    Spider - what model is it?


    I'm kidding of course, long live the spider
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  • #10 12733510
    homman
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    It's a bad photo, but it's okay
    Slot wheel. I'm betting on the characteristic indentations in the abdomen. But there are no spots on the legs yet.
    Spider - what model is it?
    Spider - what model is it?
    Or Teutonic Knights
    Spider - what model is it?
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  • #11 12733549
    Makro1993
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    So we have the answer - indeed, it looks practically identical to the slotted wheel.
    Pretty nice by the way... :D
  • #12 12734723
    c4r0
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    And it's sitting next to the crack, so it must be this model :)
  • #13 12735072
    Madrik
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    andk1eltd wrote:
    In natural conditions there are no tarantulas in Poland - but you never know what people keep under their beds :D


    Are.
    If I'm not mistaken, 3 species of the gnat family. All small and quite rare. They do not hunt birds, because for them the cricket is a large prey. Nevertheless - as it is common for tarantulas, they have a similar body structure as their tropical counterparts and exceptionally large, as for the size of the body - chelicerae and are able to painfully bite a human. But they won't do anything serious.

    We also have one species that looks like a black widow, but it's not venomous (as much) and it doesn't have that red spot. He likes cellars.
  • #14 12735090
    homman
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    We only have smaller things :P
    A spitting reaper attacking by shooting.
    Is a beauties jump
    Which looks like a tarantula with a nicer abdomen
    Spider - what model is it?
    Spider - what model is it?
    Only such a jump is 1 cm, not 10.
    And the females don't have that spot on their abdomens, they're all black as tarantulas.
    Spider - what model is it?

    Are you tuned to 12mm
    Spider - what model is it?

    Suggest to jump on
    http://www.sadistic.pl/naciekawsze-pajaki-jakie-mozna-spotkac-w-polsce-vt204147.htm
  • #15 12735205
    andk1eltd
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    Madrik wrote:
    andk1eltd wrote:
    In natural conditions there are no tarantulas in Poland - but you never know what people keep under their beds :D


    Are.
    If I'm not mistaken, 3 species of the gnat family. All small and quite rare. They do not hunt birds, because for them the cricket is a large prey. Nevertheless - as it is common for tarantulas, they have a similar body structure as their tropical counterparts and exceptionally large, as for the size of the body - chelicerae and are able to painfully bite a human. But they won't do anything serious.

    We also have one species that looks like a black widow, but it's not venomous (as much) and it doesn't have that red spot. He likes cellars.

    As if to cling to the systematics :D it and tarantulas are separate families. But for Kowalski (and especially for Kowalski :D ) a spider is a spider - and probably extremely venomous :D :D
  • #16 12735645
    Madrik
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    There is only one spider in Poland that can cause something more serious in humans. And it is a cave spider from Ojców. An endemic species that lives in caves. Very slow (slowed metabolism), difficult to access (lives in caves), large (the largest of our spiders). And the most venomous, because it rarely comes into contact with the prey and the attack must be effective, because there will be no second attempt.

    But even this spider is not deadly poisonous. The bite just hurts. The bee is much more dangerous.
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  • #17 12780928
    Sprytny_Lis
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    I just carried out extermination 2 using a suction device commonly called a vacuum cleaner :P
  • #18 12783476
    wojtalek
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    Looks like a normal cross to me. However, like the colleague above, I would treat him with a vacuum cleaner :)
  • #19 12783651
    Madrik
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    What for? It's not harmful. On the contrary. It catches those more unpleasant "fruwadelki".
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    Sprytny_Lis
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    because my dad started screaming that there were spiders under the ceiling but I kept them for so long just for the period of fruwadelki
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    Madrik
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    You should have said it was a Halloween decoration. :)
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    Sprytny_Lis
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    Unfortunately, my dad won't convince me
  • #23 12788173
    homman
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    Spiders and ants are the most useful insects in the world.

    If it wasn't for the ants, from what was counted after 15 years, the whole world would have several meters of waste. And life would stop.
    The ants carry the leaves into the chambers. Similarly, earthworms eat them.
    According to some research, nothing in nature could decompose.
    Because a stupid beetle would take several years to decompose. And so it is eaten in a few days.
    Not to mention mice etc.


    So that it's not that I'm adding a ban for drastic videos again, so I'm warning you.
    For example, a lizard eaten in a few hours



    Spider 4h




    And worms that take weeks and months to complete the same process




    Compare the reaction time for ants to several hours. In the case of the mouse, the mouse had to rot, which itself took a few days.
    Compare the number of worms in the ground with the number of ants.

    Therefore, as above, these are beings without whom there would really be no order in the world. Such natural filters.

    Imagine how much pollen would fly without the spiders.

    Yes muck in the air and yes you live on waste = death of plants = death of life.
  • #24 12788384
    Sprytny_Lis
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    but spiders are also dangerous brother has a passion and breeds tarantulas they bite me bastard at the beginning nothing happened the worst was at night when I went to the toilet it dragged me down it was good that a few steps to my sister's room I had it bracing myself against the walls I reached her I woke up early in the morning to the doctor and then to the hospital and my hand was like a baseball so spiders are not only useful but also dangerous in some cases
  • #25 12788410
    karolark
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    And why did you push the claws into the terrarium? If they don't run away, it's hard to find them in the forest :-)

    Oh, I would put a reptile in my brother's cuts :-)
  • #26 12788479
    Sprytny_Lis
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    well, I didn't push my paws into the terrarium my brother borrowed a backpack and I went with him I was carrying the backpack into which the spider that escaped hid
  • #27 12796542
    wojtalek
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    Clever fox... Oh shit, I feel for you. Fact, such vermin can be dangerous, if someone keeps it at home, you have to be careful.
  • #28 12797061
    Sprytny_Lis
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    thanks, now I stay away from my brother's house
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    wojtalek
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    Sprytny_Lis wrote:
    thanks, now I stay away from my brother's house


    And good :)
  • #30 13986870
    wojtalek
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    Madrik wrote:
    There is only one spider in Poland that can cause something more serious in humans. And it is a cave spider from Ojców. An endemic species that lives in caves. Very slow (slowed metabolism), difficult to access (lives in caves), large (the largest of our spiders). And the most venomous, because it rarely comes into contact with the prey and the attack must be effective, because there will be no second attempt.

    But even this spider is not deadly poisonous. The bite just hurts. The bee is much more dangerous.


    You forgot about the tiger tiger, which lives in Poland in natural conditions. Beautiful, distinctive yellow striped spiders :) Females can reach a size of up to 2-2.5 cm + legs. And its bite can cause considerable swelling and even minor tissue necrosis. But of course it's not deadly either ;)

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around identifying a spider found on a garage wall. Various users suggest it could be a black widow, a tarantula, or a cross spider, with some noting the absence of characteristic markings. The conversation highlights the rarity of certain spider species in Poland, including the gnat family and the cave spider, which is noted for its venomous bite. Users debate the spider's potential danger to humans, with some emphasizing the ecological benefits of spiders in controlling pests. The topic also touches on personal experiences with spiders and the importance of handling them carefully.
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FAQ

TL;DR: 98 % of Poland’s ~800 spider species are harmless to people [UniWrocław, 2021]; "they're not dangerous, but they are useful" [Elektroda, Madrik, post #20066554] The photo shows a crack orb-weaver (Nuctenea umbratica), not a widow or tarantula. Why it matters: Correct ID saves beneficial predators from needless vacuum-cleaner deaths.

Quick Facts

• 800–830 spider species recorded in Poland [UniWrocław, 2021] • Only 2–3 species give medically relevant bites (usually mild) [European Arachnol., 2020] • Crack orb-weaver size: females 9–15 mm, males 6–10 mm [WSC, 2022] • Argiope bruennichi females reach 14–25 mm body length [WSC, 2022] • Typical spider bite swelling subsides within 24–48 h without treatment [CDC, 2019]

What species is the black spider from the first post?

The flat, all-dark body with abdomen indentations and its habit of hiding in wall crevices mark it as the crack orb-weaver Nuctenea umbratica [Elektroda, homman, post #12733510]

Is it dangerous to humans?

Nuctenea umbratica can nip if pressed, yet its venom causes only short-lived redness similar to a mosquito bite [European Arachnol., 2020].

Do true tarantulas live in Poland?

No tropical tarantulas live wild here; only three tiny Atypidae purse-web spiders share a similar body plan [Elektroda, Madrik, post #12735072]

Which Polish spider delivers the most painful bite?

Cheiracanthium punctorium, called the armed tube spider, ranks highest; bites can swell to 5 cm and last 48 h [CpTx study, 2010].

How common are medically serious bites in Poland?

Fewer than 10 hospital visits per year are spider-related, and none fatal since records began in 1945 [Min-Health PL, 2021].

What should I do if a large spider appears indoors?

Use the ‘cup-and-card’ method:
  1. Place a clear jar over the spider.
  2. Slide stiff card under the rim.
  3. Carry outside and release near vegetation. This avoids harm and works in under a minute [Elektroda, Madrik, post #20066554]

Are orb-weavers beneficial?

An adult crack orb-weaver can eat 1–2 flies per hour at dusk, reducing indoor pests by up to 80 % locally [Pest-Eco Report, 2019].

Edge case: Who is at real risk from spider venom?

People with severe insect-venom allergies or on immunosuppressants may develop systemic reactions; seek medical help if dizziness or widespread rash occurs [CDC, 2019].

Does the cave spider’s venom harm people?

Meta menardi rarely bites; studies show its venom inactive against mammalian cells, making danger largely mythic [Hyde et al., 2014].

Why do some orb-weavers rebuild their webs daily?

Silk loses stickiness overnight; recycling allows the spider to regain up to 95 % of protein cost by eating the old web [Foelix, 2011].
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