with the light switch off, there is still a phase on both wires

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Hello. I changed all the bulbs in the whole house to LED, but in the kitchen I have a big problem because there the bulbs do not go out completely after switching off. I also noticed that after disconnecting the entire chandelier and turning off the switch, it slightly kicks the current on both...

kozi966 · Accepted Answer

Typical problem with a circuit breaker located on the neutral conductor, not the phase conductor.
Similar topics have already been: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3124972.html

You have to replace the wires "powering" the switch and the lamp in the box. Instead of neutral going to the light switch, it should be phase. Neutral should come to the lamp.

marekhab · Answer

You don't accidentally have backlight switches that stay on if the light is off, when you turn the light on they go out. If so, you need to disconnect them because they are the cause of glowing.

luk200p · Answer

Hello. No, I don't have such a backlight in any room..

000andrzej · Answer

If you don't have a neon light in the switches, you need to review the installation, because you have something messed up. A slight leakage or poor contact of the N wire is enough and you will have such symptoms. You need to measure where the error lies.

Piko · Answer

Hello.
A test tube or neon indicator is not an authoritative instrument for this type of measurement. This is an indicator and it shows the potential difference between what you touch and the so-called earth (whatever that means). As for the light glow of the LEDs. This is probably due to the converter in the chandelier and the protective wire is looped, or some other electronic or suppressor circuit in the switch.
Regards.

luk200p · Answer

I checked. In the box in the wall, the double wire from the switch is connected to the one with the phase.. I also noticed that after turning off the fuses of the automatic ones next to the meter, the dial still rotates very slowly. It stops completely only after unscrewing the (older model - porcelain) main fuse 20A in the box outside.

retrofood · Answer

So it has to be.

000andrzej · Answer

Why should the meter show the current consumption after the fuses are turned off?

retrofood · Answer

Do not indicate consumption, only the disc goes to the braked position. Such a black fragment of the edge of the shield is to be visible in the window. If he is not there, the shield has the right to turn to make him visible. Then it stops.

luk200p · Answer

The problem with the LEDs not going out until the end was the cable going from the box under the ceiling to the switch. Somebody put an ANTENNA coax in here! which probably has a puncture in it, or it was because it's from the antenna. I disconnected it and made a temporary on top of the two-wire. I'm going to drill and put it under plaster tomorrow. The case with the rotating shield is still unresolved, because after disabling the safety automatic spins all the time and does not stop at the mark

000andrzej · Answer

The colleague did not mention anything that it stops, but after disconnecting the power supply at the input, yes. For me, it stops in every position, but maybe there are different counters. Let the author of the post check that after turning off the fuses, the disc will stop in the zero position, as described by retrofood. If it spins on and on and keeps spinning - it may mean you have some kind of runaway download. Maybe a ringtone? It's just guesswork.

luk200p · Answer

I will call an electrician because the fuses next to the meter do not disconnect the gas heater's electricity. Despite leaving everyone on off, the stove is getting power, the digital display is on and the ignition is working

retrofood · Answer

So you already know why the counter is spinning, right?

luk200p · Answer

Yes, but for me it is strange because the stove is not protected in any way, and only removing the plug causes its electronics to stop working.

retrofood · Answer

Therefore, a visit to an electrician is highly recommended.

luk200p · Answer

fuses without housing

Krzysztof Reszka · Answer

If he connected it as in the picture, it cannot be turned off (black cable). I always wonder when I see such pictures and ask who did this to you shocking.

with the light switch off, there is still a phase on both wires

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