Noark Modular Apparatus Comparison: Quality & Reliability vs Hager, Eaton, Legrand, RCD Models

Hello,

It is known that modular apparatus of leading brands such as hager or EATON is known for its quality and reliability, probably every electrician will recommend their products. However, there are also other brands on the market, recently I came across Noark, it is cheaper, there is also a 5-year warranty, has any of you used or dealt with this brand? How is the quality and reliability? Is it a typical average, can you put Noark next to hager, eaton?

I'm interested in RCD Noark, anyone used them? Were there problems with them? Hager is the 1st league, but I heard that RCD legrand are falling.

Every manufacturer releases junk.

1. Legrand is a good company, there was a series that the TEST in the RCD did not work. Approx
2. Eaton Quite often the TEST button on the RCD did not bounce. Colleague Łukasz-O, as far as I know, uses only Eaton and has never had a problem.
3. As for your producer, I've never heard of it.
4. There is also Schrack good equipment, never disappointed.
5. There is still ABB also good equipment. I just don't know who invented these comb rails.

BigCock wrote:

How is the quality and reliability? Is it a typical average, can you put Noark next to hager, eaton?

It can be said that the modular apparatus available on the Polish market is, as my colleague put it, average.
NOARK is an international or rather European company. Their products have numerous certificates and tests of various international institutions. It's still much better than cheap Chinese.
I do not know if everyone knows, but electrical apparatus from technically highly developed countries is not available on the Polish market due to the complete lack of interest, mainly due to the high cost. For this reason, these countries produce a cheaper version of the apparatus for the Polish market, but also with lower reliability.
Prices will fall or will be similar because there is a lot of competition. In order to check the product in practice, years must pass from its availability or installation by a specific installer.
Writing that it is bad or that it is good results rather from the preferences of a particular electrician than from the results of laboratory tests, e.g. by the Electrotechnical Institute.

I got interested in Noark because Legrand I don't know how it is now, but apparently it fails, especially the RCD. Hager does not disappoint, but it is appreciated. Eaton is the same shelf as hager, sure but cheaper. You can find a lot of negative opinions about the Legrand apparatus and this is mainly repulsive, besides, their products can be found in supermarkets, like some Chinese, where you will not find hager or eaton. Noark, I have not met in supermarkets, prices are affordable, but not enough opinions, especially professionals, to be able to say something.

It may be that as a novelty there is good quality and price, as in the case of Hager at the beginning the price was affordable, when it gained recognition it jumped.

Maybe. A friend of Magic_moon wrote that every manufacturer releases a dud. So has there been any improvement with RCD Legrand? Some time ago the TX3 series came out, any of you used it?

Can you write something more, e.g. when it comes to p/t switchboards? hager volta, the quality is great, but there is also Eaton klv, can you compare them? Estonia, I see, is cheaper.

Hello
If anyone knows the CHINT brand, Noark belongs to the CHINT group, but due to the fact that CHINT is clearly associated with Chinese, the concern invested in a new "premium" brand whose name and location of the company are not associated with China and the assumptions were to help in the expansion in European markets. At one time, Noark did not have type-tested apparatus for industrial installations, so it could only be used in a residential building.
If you look at the technical solutions, most of them are duplicated, interesting are the 3-p switch disconnectors in one module.
Of course, they are constantly introducing new products and expanding the range, for which they obtain the required certificates.
Appearance, quality of materials and workmanship according to I have nothing to cling to.
The main thing is to check that the equipment used has all the required papers.
That is, wrote the predecessor, every producer has slip-ups, hopefully as rarely as possible.
P.S. 3 years ago, when I was at the fair, Noark had a stand at Energetab in Bielsko, the representatives were Polish, but the stand was run by an Asian. Interestingly, Chint had a separate pavilion.

In our company, a lot of modules on the Legrand Tx3 series went, no one had any objections, the only thing that happened was that the R303 / R301 disconnectors broke when tightening
Magic_moon has similar schneider combs

BigCock wrote:

Can you write something more, e.g. when it comes to p/t switchboards? hager volta

All small switchboards are mounted by Volts, the hager quickconnect system is brilliant, aesthetic and speeds up work, several boards are easily mounted next to each other with spacers, a relatively large range of front leveling adjustment, a lot of space inside for cables. Previously, we mounted various boards, but from the first mounted Volta, there is only this. We install large switchgears with Eaton Profi+, good price, plenty of space inside (very deep).

Speaking of security, I don't think there is a rule and without specialized research it's hard to say whether this or that is better. I use Hager/Eaton/Schrack and never had any problems. We used to use ETI too and they were ok, Legrand RCDs were more sensitive to possible dust, but these are not typical working conditions either, so do not exaggerate. Siemens sometimes landed in control cabinets when there was a good promo when buying controllers. You can trust ABB or GE in the same way

koscik wrote:

Hello
If anyone knows the CHINT brand, Noark belongs to the CHINT group, but due to the fact that CHINT is clearly associated with Chinese, the concern invested in a new "premium" brand whose name and location of the company are not associated with China and the assumptions were to help in the expansion in European markets.

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P.S. 3 years ago, when I was at the fair, Noark had a stand at Energetab in Bielsko, the representatives were Polish, but the stand was run by an Asian. Interestingly, Chint had a separate pavilion.

Exactly. I once talked to one guy who was at the CHINT factory (an organized trip for European representatives of wholesalers) and he told me that the quality and standards of their production far exceed the standards of Eaton or Legrand. CHINT is a brand that entered the Polish market a few years ago - I had to deal with it a bit because in the previous company they used it practically everywhere due to the price level and discounts. During the almost 2-year period of work in this company, a couple of S's were replaced due to a failure - the switchgear flooded with a stream of water in the central heating pipes.
Norak - I haven't dealt with this brand yet, I've seen it several times in the warehouse, but no one offered/recommended it to me - I suspect that no one poured money or gadgets.

What can I say, if we are talking about ordinary overcurrent circuit breakers or RCDs, everything will go crazy and the cost of replacement is ridiculous. I personally use Hager, Eaton depending on what is in the basement or warehouse on the shelf. Additionally, control or some simple home automation with F&F.

If we are talking about supermarkets, practically all manufacturers have signed some contracts for advertising purposes. I do not mention the price that accompanies it, although sometimes there are promotions - once I bought S'ki Legrand because they were cheaper by PLN 1 than what I have privately in the warehouse after a discount.

Recently, I was surprised by a leaflet in the warehouse and the prices of the standard Schneider Electric module.

Hello friends, I wanted to know something about the Noark brand

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Hello colleagues, I wanted to learn something about the Noark brand, and I read topics on the electrode. I've read all the posts and I'm wondering what you guys are talking about here. You don't bring anything, you didn't use the equipment, you don't even know who produces it, no specifics, just chatter: "what I didn't use". It can be seen that the vast majority of the so-called specialists certainly did not examine any modular apparatus. Colleague JohnySpzoo writes: "it will be crazy and the cost of replacement is ridiculous." It will be funny when someone is killed by a faulty differential switch.
I once studied 4 pcs of Chint differentials. 2 didn't work at all and two at 10mA current I didn't check the time, because what's the point of it for the supporters of cheap substitutes.

But what are you up to?
After all, no normal person uses either Noark or Chint, not to mention Tracon.
Anyway, it hasn't happened to me.

romeo38 wrote:

Hello colleagues, I wanted to learn something about the Noark brand, and I read topics on the electrode. I've read all the posts and I'm wondering what you guys are talking about here. You don't bring anything, you didn't use the equipment, you don't even know who produces it, no specifics, just chatter: "what I didn't use". It can be seen that the vast majority of the so-called specialists certainly did not examine any modular apparatus

I wonder what my colleague brought to this discussion.

romeo38 wrote:

colleague JohnySpzoo writes: 'it will be crazy and the cost of replacement is ridiculous'.

I can't seem to find it in my friend's post JohnySpZOO .

romeo38 wrote:

It'll be funny when someone gets killed by a faulty differential switch.

I've never seen an RCD kill someone, even a faulty one. Unless it falls on someone's head from a great height :D

romeo38 wrote:

I once studied 4 pcs of Chint differentials. 2 didn't work at all and two at 10mA current I didn't check the time, because what's the point of it for the supporters of cheap substitutes.

There are months when I examine several hundred pieces of different brands

About the fact that: I didn't find out what this Noark is, but I learned about the various vicissitudes of some forum members (I'm not interested in it, because I thought this forum was technical).

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So I recommend reading carefully.

romeo38 wrote:

About the fact that: I didn't find out what this Noark is, but I learned about the various vicissitudes of some forum members (I'm not interested in it, because I thought this forum was technical).

Nothing stands in the way of a colleague to test himself and share his observations. Maybe it's time to start contributing to the forum, not just taking. So far, your history of five posts is just learning from others, and now even brazen claims.

If you want, I will test the Norak apparatus for you in the laboratory for an appropriate fee and write conclusions

elpapiotr wrote:

After all, no normal person uses either Noark,

hello to all normal...
Once, being in the capital by chance, I parked next to an electrical warehouse. They just had Noark's gear. I discussed with the seller for a long time, looked through the assortment of this company. From what's left in my mind:
- 5-year warranty for switchgear accessories,
-the company was founded by the creator of Moeller-Eaton and they compared the quality of products to this company.
Personally, I used the accessories (switchgear equipment) only once and so far, peace. It looks no worse than the aforementioned Eaton, solid terminals, universal bridging rails. For example, a 3x14 or 4x14 residential switchboard compared to Eaton is no different and PLN 40-50 cheaper. Overcurrent, RCD at a price slightly lower than Eaton.
The company has been on the market for 5 years, but I wouldn't put it on the same shelf as Chint or Kanlux.
Then why don't I use Noark widely?
Unfortunately, my supplier does not offer it.
Besides, I've always used Moeller, Eaton and no problems with these hardware, although in practice there are other better ones, for example, enabling the replacement of 1 module without removing the jumper rail.
Reason No. 2, what the discount is the most applies.

elpapiotr wrote:

After all, no normal person uses either Noark

thank you for the compliment I've been buying NOARK cameras for the last 3 years. It is true that the assortment is not as large as that of leading manufacturers, but everything for switchgears (without complicated controls) will be found. None of the apparatus (out of several hundred) was damaged as new and none has been damaged so far. RCDs "do not fall asleep". When measured, they have the correct trip times and trip current values. The appearance of NOARK cameras is the most aesthetic and they seem to be solid. They are constantly expanding their range. Curiosities include TH rail switch disconnectors, with a "knob" for a screwdriver, which can be used to lock the disconnector after switching off. The fact is that few wholesalers sell their accessories. If the "old" electricians are such conservatives, such companies will never develop For now, I'm an independent client, but maybe I'll get some advertising suggestions To sum up: 3 years - no comments, 0 damaged cameras.
PS NOARK is definitely not in the same bag with CHINT. I think that if someone wanted to have a CHINT on, I wouldn't even dissuade them from this idea (I heard from very serious companies that they assemble this equipment). The only modular equipment I've seen that I wouldn't even like to hold in my hand is "KANALUX". When I look at these enclosures, I immediately see ZK fiber boxes after several years of operation One more thing. None of the NOARK RCDs I've bought have killed anyone yet. After purchase, I try to keep them at most on the second shelf up to 1 m above the floor

On the other hand, as if to reverse the question of what company not to use, starting from P302, S301, SM300, DPX, etc., then .... I don't want to suggest anything.

I'm about to get a gold spade, but I'll add my opinion. Personally, I've been using RCD and noarka overcurrent devices for 4 years now and no problems with it. They were all functional new and no complaints so far, I also recommend

Noark products are hosted on the Eplan Data Portal. This platform is a professional database of manufacturers of electrical apparatus. This is a recommendation for me.

It's been a while can anyone share 😁 their experiences.

kmarkot wrote:

It's been a while whether anyone can chime in with their experiences.

Willingly, but I don't drink or smoke.