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Pioneer a30 Amplifier: Seeking Stereo Speaker Recommendations (Budget: PLN 3,000)

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  • #1 16419384
    Petros
    Level 20  
    Hello

    Currently I have a stereo set. Amplifier: Pioneer a30, Adudio Pro Avanto stereo speakers.
    It sounds good but I want to change the columns because:
    - My speakers are terribly sensitive to positioning (BR on the back, bass speaker to the side)
    - I want to improve the sound quality
    - I have never used even half of the power of these loudspeakers - I play rather quietly / moderately loud

    I'm happy with the amplifier - it stays (I had other ones before - sony, yamaha and they played 2 classes worse)

    I was thinking about buying the Dali Zesnsor 3 stand mount speakers and additionally a Subwoofer (i.e. a 2.1 set)
    Does anyone have experience with such connections?
    I know a lot of people will say that sub has nothing to look for in music, but in my opinion the loudspeaker lacks bass.
    I listen to all kinds of music.
    Room 28 sq m
    Price up to PLN 3,000 - only new
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  • #2 16419885
    intenso
    Level 39  
    Heco Music Style 900 buddy.
    Zensors are too small for this size and a sub is necessary for them, a sub for music is Rel.
  • #3 16422244
    s4home
    Level 20  
    Heco Music Style are quite universal loudspeakers and work well with the pioneer. Lots of bass, soft and dynamic. Other options are Elac Debut F6, Indiana line Tesi 560. If you care about detail then Zensor 7, Tannoy Mercury 7.4
    It is worth going to listening sessions and choosing the sound of the loudspeaker for yourself
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  • #4 16422373
    Petros
    Level 20  
    thanks for advice.
    Heco looks good. Anyone have a direct comparison to the Audio Pro Avanto?
    Why no one offers floorstanders with an integrated subwoofer. I like bass from the sub, and at the same time I want to listen to good quality stereo music. All loudspeakers, priced up to PLN 3,000, that I heard did not come down with bass below 35 Hz .... (-3dB). Why is it like that?

    I understand that the Heco are able to better reproduce low tones? They have a BR in the back ... it can be fun with positioning and rumbling again.
  • #5 16426216
    s4home
    Level 20  
    Petros wrote:

    Why no one offers floorstanders with an integrated subwoofer.


    They are but not in this budget. Take a look at the Martin Logan brand, for example.
    As for heco, it sounds much better for me than Avento. The bass is completely different, more dynamic, deeper and more pleasant to the ear.
    Despite the rear bass reflex outlets, for me they are much easier to set up than the Avento.
    As for the resonances and beats, it all depends on the room acoustics. It may turn out that you move away 30-40 cm and it will be ok
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  • #6 16428647
    Petros
    Level 20  
    I have to listen to these Heco Music Style 900s. But I am skeptical about the 17 cm woofer ....

    Or maybe someone will recommend a model with larger diaphragms that deal well with low frequencies?
    The loudspeakers could be wider (I have a lot of space, width up to 45 cm) and slightly lower - something like the Altus 300, but it's hard to find speakers in this format.
    I found only this: Nubert nuBox 483 (22cm speaker, 80cm high speakers) - but opinions about them are divided.
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  • #7 16449103
    Petros
    Level 20  
    I listened to the Heco MS 900. It's okay, but I wasn't taken away ... The bass was boosted, but unfortunately the high one.
    I bought the Nunert nuBox 483 blindly. They have perfect characteristics on paper. They go down realistically to 35hz.
    I like this company's philosophy.
    I will write how they play when they get there.
  • #8 16450357
    k52
    Level 32  
    The Audio Pro Avanto sounds very specific, unfortunately they are not very precise, the sound is soft and, as you wrote, they are not easy to set up. They are not tuned to a public that likes bass grunts and chirps. Theoretically, they match the hard-playing Pioneer of the new series, but in fact it is still not a great sound and if they do not fit, there is no need to bother.
    Petros wrote:

    - I have never used even half of the power of these loudspeakers - I play rather quietly / moderately loud


    There are no Audio Pro Avanto powers, because they are passive speakers. The information on the plate that, for example, 150W is only a very approximate piece of information about durability, often even exaggerated and nothing else. Likewise, you won't learn a column game from the same table and band information from -to.
    The same applies to the diameter of the speaker, because the midrange alone will not tell you much about bass and what it will be like. Look at the Tonsil loudspeakers, the diaphragm is usually large, 20-25 cm, and the bass is low, and it is difficult to call it low. Low bass is a good solid box, crossover, etc. Typing that a column with a large speaker generally has better bass is sometimes risky. You should especially avoid cheap and huge loudspeakers.
  • #9 16455066
    Petros
    Level 20  
    Hello

    After a few hours of listening to the Kolum Nubert nuBox 483 in my salon:
    These speakers are amazing! Not one subwoofer may be ashamed. I have never heard of any loudspeaker reproducing low frequencies in this way.
    The rest of the band is also very precise and clean in my opinion. Just listening to music is more fun.

    Maybe these are just my specific feelings, but when I listen to these Nubert loudspeakers, I have the impression that someone forgot one zero in their price or that other loudspeaker manufacturers wanted to deceive me ...
    Personally, I had the opportunity to purchase directly in Germany.

    Thank you for your advice, and I recommend that all others looking for speakers with a subwoofer get interested in the Nubert brand first.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around upgrading stereo speakers for a Pioneer A30 amplifier, with a budget of PLN 3,000. The user currently has Audio Pro Avanto speakers but seeks better sound quality and less sensitivity to positioning. Recommendations include Heco Music Style 900, Elac Debut F6, Indiana Line Tesi 560, and Dali Zensor 3, with some users suggesting the addition of a subwoofer for enhanced bass. The Nubert nuBox 483 is highlighted as an excellent option, praised for its low-frequency performance and overall sound quality. Concerns about speaker positioning and bass response are addressed, emphasizing the importance of room acoustics and speaker design.
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