Used Stereo Amplifier 2018 Recommendations: Connect to TV, 30m Room, 2 Speakers, ≤PLN 1,200

Hello, I am looking for a home stereo amplifier for 2018, I found nothing, all the forums I have read and I have not found anything, the equipment was supposed to play in a 30 m room, only 2 stereo speakers planned. Ampli connected to the TV of course what do you recommend

What does 2018 mean?
Used from 2018?

Not used, but not a very old one, only one with hdmi and good sound nw I don't know, maybe denon is a good choice, e.g. avr1912

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Someone help?

3808 is definitely a better receiver.
Why do you need a home theater receiver for stereo?

I just can't find any stereo amp, there are receivers everywhere. I found the onkyo tx8050 but I hesitate if it will be a good choice speakers will be tonsil maestro s ii 180

As it should be only for stereo, I have recently listened to the Pioneer A-30, the new one, probably PLN 1100 and it sounded very decently.

Thank you for the answer, but I am not convinced by the pioneer, and if there are any suggestions

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People, come on

If you want better sound quality in stereo, I do not recommend the amplified kd, they fall out poorly. How do you want to connect the TV to the equipment because if via toslink you have such a possibility but with an amplifier that has a digital input. This makes me think of the Denon pma 1520 but do not confuse it with the AE series because it is a new series. This is a good and cool amplifier. What budget?

Look for the Yamaha R-S700, this is a budget receiver that is solidly built for this level, and in stereo it performs very well.

The fact that the receivers sound worse is another stereotype, although there are many cases, which is actually the case, if the power amplifier is a solid construction based on transistors supported by an efficient power supply, the addition of a DD and DPL tuner and decoder does not really change the sound much, so if the cinema receiver has a Direct input, you can safely use it as a stereo amplifier. The long path of the signal proves the minus of the receivers, so it is necessary to check if there is a direct input so that the signal does not wander after a kilometer of paths and integrated circuits.

I will not forget the test from 20 years ago in a well-known audiophile magazine where a Philips amplifier was tested, and in a few months a stereo receiver from the same manufacturer, it happened that both of them were at the workshop much later, what was my surprise as it turned out that the receiver was literally this amplifier only with a tuner added to the live, the same power amplifier, the same transformer, only a tuner board on the side, next to the sockets, and you know what? The amplifier fared very well and the receiver was bad ... then I stopped believing in listening tests and credibility in magazines for audio lovers

Thank you for the answers, recently I was looking for a lot, I read and caught my eye marantz pm6005 or denon pma720ae but nw is it worth packing in it, since the denon receivers have everything I need and I think that I will not lose so much on this sound.

You can buy a tuner in addition to the amplifier, a stereo receiver usually does not give way to its counterpart among amplifiers, while the KD receiver is a different shelf, for the same money, there is no start.

I see that I used a kd receiver with stereo in mind and it came out of it, I thought that if a tall model it would do the job (Yamaha RX-V2700)
My old Sony TA-FE600R amplifier sounds much better.
I'm sorry that I connected to your topic this way, but I'm also looking for a set that will bring something more during listening.

I have one
http://www.teac-audio.eu/en/products/cr-h700-83957.html

Well, the receiver I bought a denon 2312 I am very happy with the sound, many settings and possibilities, but sometimes the Internet freezes

I have to replace the loudspeakers for better ones because these tonsil has little bass, which you suggest is used up to PLN 1,300

andrew54 wrote:

The fact that the receivers sound worse is another stereotype, although there are many cases, which is actually the case, if the power amplifier is a solid construction based on transistors supported by an efficient power supply, the addition of a DD and DPL tuner and decoder does not really change the sound much, so if the cinema receiver has a Direct input, you can safely use it as a stereo amplifier. The long path of the signal proves the minus of the receivers, so it is necessary to check if there is a direct input so that the signal does not wander after a kilometer of paths and integrated circuits.

Sure it is, but if we are talking about a stereo receiver. In the case of KD you have more channels, so more transistors, bigger heat sinks etc. It's easy to calculate that for the same money a KD receiver will be much worse than a stereo one.

andrew54 wrote:

and credibility in magazines for audio lovers

I have long stopped. One of them raised the Pylon Pearl to the skies and rode Tonsile with the ground, which were built on the same speakers, packed in the same package and with similar filtration. But he smeared Jujka and Wieszczeciński did not.

cypek238 wrote:

tonsil maestro s ii 180

Do you have little bass from them? Buy a subwoofer. When replacing the speakers, you will improve the treble and midrange. Basu not. Unless you buy some cheesy loudspeakers with boosted bass, but what for?
The subwoofer will give you bass without spoiling the rest of the bandwidth.
In 30 meters, you can already do something. For now, try repositioning the columns themselves. Start by checking to see if you have more bass in the corners of the room than at the listening position. If so, it may turn out that the speakers are fed up with bass, but their setting cuts it out. Sometimes even adding a subwoofer does not significantly improve the low bass, but it will add an unpleasant kick that drowns out the rest of the frequency range.

Buddy, let's say I agree, but the mass of KD receivers has simply duplicated identical channels to be able to implement the soundtrack for movies, in other words give me a diagram of one channel and power supply, no matter if it's a KD receiver or stereo, I'll tell you how much it's worth. Very often the KD receiver will be better because it has luck calculated on more channels than stereo, I ignore the extremes of some low models, which on paper are 5 * 100Wa and 200W trafo. Let's skip the technics, pioneer and some yamaha receivers that had specially designed hybrids for additional channels and, funnily enough, they had different power than the fronts. It's terribly painful to repair and you have to wait a month for a delivery from China. A good KD receiver, when playing a direct signal only on stereo, will sound just as well as a stereo amplifier or stereo receiver.

As for the tests in the magazines, I know that they are divided into several groups, the first case when the distributor provides, for example, an amplifier for testing and it includes an expensive alcohol attachment, less often an envelope or most often the annotation "if you like the sound please leave it", then a positive recommendation allows leave the equipment in the hands of the reviewer, then he stuffs it on the Allegro, the wolf is full and the sheep is whole. The second case, if the equipment is delivered without such an annotation or attachment, is condemned to a random test and cursory evaluation. The third category, if the distributor does not want to provide the equipment because there is no such model available or has to wait a long time, then the equipment is doomed to failure and the test is written without listening or after renting the equipment from the salon just to take photos. I will end by quoting the test of the stein-music de-3 demagnetizer of a device that cannot work in the well-known audiophile magazine "vinyl demagnetizer remains in my possession as a must-have".