Physics from scratch and technical studies. Mechanical engineering. What univers

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Good morning everyone! As in the subject, I have a problem with physics, I never studied it, and in high school I just didn't have one. I have no problems with math, I wrote my high school diploma quite well (a year ago). Until recently, I was a student of electrical engineering, but I quit...

tadkli9743 · Answer

Hello

Physics, like other technical subjects, must be understood, not forged and forgotten.
If you write that you have no problem with mathematics, you can do it with physics.
I myself graduated from the Technical University, specializing in mechanical engineering and I know that it is not that difficult.

Enclosed is one of the best physics textbooks in my opinion.

Good luck.

Regards

Anonymous · Answer

Do you want to become an engineer and work as a mechanic? Enroll in a technical college for adults, you will get a reasonable amount of essential knowledge, which you will master 100% with a little effort.

Studies without a lack of basics? You will be sitting there with people after the technical school who will yawn when you do not understand what the classes are about ... The only option is forging by heart and forgetting. However, 60% of the knowledge you have to master is an unnecessary waste of time that you can devote to practice during the technical school ...

I feel sorry for you being a victim of the high school institution and wasted youth in it.

Universities are asking for introducing entrance exams and treating the matura exam on the basis of 0, 1 pass, fail. Where sentence means a person capable of communicating, writing, reading, memorizing information and counting, and that's all he says. The exam would allow the best to obtain degrees, and keep laypeople at the stage of secondary education, as in other civilized countries ... Instead of giving everyone an engineer whose value is now lower than that of a solid technician ...

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tadkli9743 wrote:
I myself graduated from the Technical University, specializing in mechanical engineering and I know that it is not that difficult.

Show off what you are doing in this direction. Unless there is nothing, due to the educational pathology I wrote about above.

magasaka · Answer

If you would at least know what you are writing about ... a graduate of a technical school lost its prestige some 10-20 years ago, the technical school has become a vocational school with a high school diploma. Throughout my life, I studied physics for a few hours in total, in high school I did not need it, and in college I could not get down to it, because I was a laziness addicted to games. Now, having been in rehab for 2 months, I am slowly starting to plan my life and that's why I ask for opinions and ask for help. The system 3 years middle school +3 high school is the greatest stupidity I have experienced. Here you are right about the baccalaureate exam, I will not agree because in Poland it is not the USA or Germany. There are SAT tests in the USA too, so what are you drinking to? And after you have to write like this and pour out your regrets here, please do not contribute, I expect substantive answers to my questions, not frustrating spam.

Xantix · Answer

I think in your eyes. See yourself at the rankings of upper secondary schools and recruiting schools for secondary schools. See for yourself how popular such techniques as ZSEL Lublin or ZSŁ in Krakow are. They have so many volunteers that the school chooses students, not students, the school. And just to be clear ... I know what I am writing about because I myself am a technical secondary school graduate. And I know what it looks like in technical studies (electrical engineering), where maybe in the first and second years, high school graduates rebuked technicians with better physical and mathematics, but later, when specific technical subjects arrived, technicians left high school students behind. Why? Because they had even minimal knowledge of the practical aspects of the field - they were familiar with, for example, an oscilloscope, meters, measuring systems, they were able to pick up a soldering iron. The two champions after high school (who were also the eagles of physics after the Olympics) did not behave at the end of their third year, and asked the master of laboratories to show them how to use an oscilloscope and a soldering iron at the end of their third year. And they were already writing an engineering thesis and were thinking about a master's degree ... And what was more to be? Technical school has always combined the advantages of practical education in a vocational school and secondary education provided by high school. And the problem is mainly that now there is no way to learn the practical side of the profession, but it is not the fault of schools, but the fault of the system and our economy. IMHO I know many graduates of the profession who are decent specialists and although they do not know calculus like you, they can create such mechanical structures that even for you, after engineering studies, may be unattainable. So please do not disavow technical and vocational graduates. Because prestige is a relative, ephemeral and often granted undeservedly thing - and the basis for the assessment should be real knowledge and opportunities offered by a given path. Well, now in college, get ready for two years of hard living in books. If you are smart then you can do it, but it won't be easy, I can assure you here. I confirm. Secondary schools should have been demolished and razed to the ground a long time ago, and additionally nailed with aspen pegs so that they would not revive. And on what basis? What is the high school diploma in your opinion today? It is not a secondary school-leaving examination anymore, but only formality - admission document for studies. For people nowadays, it is an element of equipment that must be obtained during high school, such as a driving license or ID card. Currently, it does not carry any substantive values. Therefore, it should be treated as zero-one because its current level does not allow for anything else. For that, the entrance exams were strict to ensure that those lesers who wanted to go to college were screened out for fun, or because because they could because they passed their high school diploma. Now the entrance exams have been abolished and mob has flooded universities. Why? Because now art matters - every student is money. So you take it all up. And we have what we have ... Good luck and perseverance.

magasaka · Answer

And one that compares our high school diploma to the SAT exams in the USA (where they are not zero-one). In addition, the Polish matura exam is recognized almost throughout the EU. To be clear, I am not the one you write about. I hate combining and I treat studies as a vocation, which is why, among other things, I quit electrical engineering because I would only cheat myself. And you write about typical students who go for paper, I know because I have a friend who used to combine the whole high school, he wrote the mathematics for barely 60% (where I have 94 and extension 60) and now he is sitting at AGH and slips through. Overall we are talking about the same (almost) in different words only, but ok you are right for the most part. Thanks for the kind words and best regards!

Xantix · Answer

But what does this have to do with our high school diploma and the postulate of reinstating university entrance exams? Mainly on a reciprocal basis. In addition, although it is recognized, a Polish graduate student still has to acquire a lot of knowledge, because recognizing an exam does not mean that it is treated equivalent to their more. And I have never written that anywhere. And I did not say so at all. Dude, I am writing about them because they are maybe 3/4 of all students. And believe me, it is always the case that the majority of them sets the direction. It may seem that it has nothing to do with you, but believe me, all these combiners lower the level of education, make the university system more and more repressive, that it learns combinatorialism, which is not only becoming the norm, but is also beginning to be seen as a kind of useful life skill and becomes a source of pride. Such an attitude of others will hiccup also honest ones like you - because the system looks at the attitude of the collective, so individual honest individuals must get four letters in such a situation. In the past, studies were elite, people of vocation went there - because, for example, in the 90s the percentage of students was only 15% of all high school graduates. Now it's 50%! And the rule is simple - when something becomes mass it ceases to be elitist. And when it ceases to be elitist, the level drops down. Because you have to adapt to the majority. Because money matters ... That is why the reintroduction of compulsory and stringent entrance examinations is a cure for many of the ills of higher education. But as I mentioned before, this will not happen. So students from calling should be hoped a hard back - because it will be useful for them ...

Anonymous · Answer

You see people like you, we had half a year, today there is a tool like facebook and guess what they are doing today? The same may apply to you my dear friend. But if you don't want to listen, you'll find out the hard way. Of course, in high school, they mastered the art of memorizing information, and in college they either worked hard or were born nerds and slipped as you put it. They memorized information that they did not fully understand or 'feel', then filled it in with a new batch after each semester. And it was not easy for them, each exam was a week of study, people after technical school - a day of repeating lectures and no stress. None of the high school students had to deal with the industry, workshop conditions, manufacturing techniques, measurements, servicing, maintenance, diagnostics, practical knowledge of the objects they were learning about. People who graduated from technical secondary school spent 20% of their time at school workshops, a few months on apprenticeships with real entrepreneurs, designing gears and other things with the same degree of complexity as at the university they later had as a revision. And most of them practiced at home on their own, while high school students were studying biology, history, etc. at the same time. Do you know what a general high school is? Middle School 2.0 ended with a high school diploma. A vocational / technical school gives you access to information at an age when your brain easily assimilates it, on the basis of which you will build your future career. It doesn't matter 'prestige' but how hard you work on yourself and absorb what you get on the tray. What does high school give you? Because they don't even teach you how to express yourself correctly and to write correctly. There is nothing to soak up there! Have you even mastered English? Have you been abroad? Did you prove yourself practically? Do you know how it ends? Matura exam in English at 95%, extended, a delinquent comes to the UK and cannot communicate with people ... exchange framework. No high school of high prestige does this in the entire voivodeship. In order to do the job of a mechanic, you do not need to have an engineering degree. Only for this. If you have an engineering degree in developed countries, you do not touch grease, but you sit behind a desk for 2 times higher rates, which practically guarantees you the same title, because 75% of the society does not get it. With a Polish engineer after high school you will do the same as you could do right now after high school (assuming that you would be interested in learning there) - such a sad conclusion. You can end up as one colleague, Master of Science, CNC operator, college average ~ 4.75 or higher - why did he waste 5 years? In the UK, the same is done by a kid after the local academy and a simple course or the so-called starting at the age of 19-20 earn decent money. This is all you can get right now. Universities accept everyone because they have money for it, they name everyone because ECTS allows it. You fail the exam, you pay 200-300 PLN, you repeat in a year with another lecturer who is famous, for example, for permission to download, etc. At university, you are not an 'object' that someone will want to turn into a professional in a specific program, giving you a pass to a better career at the end just cannon fodder employing its workers, for whom the whole mission is to get paid. You see, you are young and all your life so far are student's problems at school, but the moment of truth will come = a collision with the labor market. You hide the title in your pocket and maybe your boss will be a peer from a non-prestigious technical school. You will feel the 'prestige' of high school when you go to a job interview. Everything in front of you.

Xantix · Answer

Believe me in the techniques now there is also a problem with that. Yeah, maybe 15 years ago. Currently, there are school workshops, e.g. at the Electronic Technical College, 1 day a week for one year of study. Where do you have 20% of the time here? The button is true. I barely had a practitioner 18 days! for the whole 4 years of study, and even here it was not easy to find a decent entrepreneur who would like to learn something, and not only with rubbing around the hall. And this is the main advantage of technicians today. Can you, buddy, write which technical school is it and where is it located? Because ZSEL Lublin did not offer foreign internships. That's interesting. The sign of this CNC is a banality since a high school student can handle it after the course. Don't make jokes.

Imekxus · Answer

Hahahahahahahahahahahah, I know I'm risking this answer warna, but you made me laugh with this paragraph to tears =) Regards, a person after high school in the 10th semester of study, M.Sc.

magasaka · Answer

Thanks Imekxus I saw your topic from 2012 and some statements from 2016, I am in the same situation as you were. Besides physics and math, did you prepare yourself for something else? I am not so afraid of physics anymore, nor of drawing, because I know that it is enough to systematically do / hand over work. Yes, I ask, is there a lot of learning from books on strictly theoretical subjects? Like material engineering etc.

telecaster1951 · Answer

At my department, people after technical school do 5-year studies at the age of 7. The fact that someone graduated from a technical secondary school has nothing to do with it! I know some people have terrible complexes, but why pour them out like this? It does not matter if someone graduated from a technical or high school. I graduated from high school and I always had a scholarship during my studies. So it is possible. A graduate of a good secondary school will always do better than a graduate of a poor technical school. What counts here is the skills and abilities of a given person, not what school he graduated from ... The first two semesters are the basics. It is enough to learn SYSTEMATICALLY. In addition, before the first semester, universities organize introductory classes in physics and mathematics for people with problems.

Xantix · Answer

And does it contradict my colleague from the previous sentence?

jacek22031 · Answer

>>16469375I read it years later and at the Faculty of Mechanical Engineering at PK, I have not seen any greater depths than after technical school. What counts is the knowledge of math, physics, and mechanics in the first two years. Students who graduated from good high schools had much more knowledge than those orphans who graduated from technical schools.

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