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3S Li-ion Charging Module: Find a Suitable Module for Charging 3-Cell Li-ion Battery Packs

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  • #1 16620629
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    Hello, is there a module thanks to which I will be able to charge a pack of 3 li-ion cells?
    I found one, but I'm not sure if it has charging options (you can't see any LEDs indicating the charge level).
    3S Li-ion Charging Module: Find a Suitable Module for Charging 3-Cell Li-ion Battery Packs
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  • #3 16620668
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    Thank you for your answer

    The catalog card says:
    Technical parameters:
    Voltage: DC charging voltage: 12.6V CC / CV

    I am not sure if I understand correctly ...
    So the module has cell charging options yes?
    In that case, how do I know when the loading process has been completed?
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    #4 16620703
    kwazar
    Level 29  
    There is a LED description on the board, it looks like two LEDs, probably to indicate the charge status.
  • #5 16620725
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    Now I just noticed ...
    The specification sent by "zbigniewsk" concerns another module.
    What does it look like with my module? He has only understood the protective function so?

    3S Li-ion Charging Module: Find a Suitable Module for Charging 3-Cell Li-ion Battery Packs

    Why is P- and P + signed as "charge"?
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  • #6 16620763
    kwazar
    Level 29  
    How is that why? After all, you connect the charging adapter and load there. The system is a safety device against overcharging during charging, and against excessive discharging with connected load.
    He keeps an eye on the battery.
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  • #7 16621066
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    My only contact with li-ion modules is TP4056. I connect 5V there and I have everything somewhere, because the module will fully charge the cell for me. In this case, if I give 12.6V from a power supply, will the module do everything for me?
  • #8 16621108
    goldi74
    Level 43  
    This system is only or until the protection of individual links of the packet against overcharging and excessive discharge. To charge such a package you also need a Li-Ion 4S charger.
  • #9 16621120
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    goldi74 wrote:
    This system is only or until the protection of individual links of the packet against overcharging and excessive discharge. To charge such a package you also need a Li-Ion 4S charger.


    Thanks for any help, maybe you know some cheap and good module of such a charger?
    I prefer to make sure you meant 4S or 3S?
  • #11 16621333
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    I understand, I have one last question.

    Could such a scheme work correctly and safely charge the cells?

    3S Li-ion Charging Module: Find a Suitable Module for Charging 3-Cell Li-ion Battery Packs
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    #12 16621369
    goldi74
    Level 43  
    Unfortunately, this arrangement will not work. For it to work properly, each TP4056 module would have to have a separate 5V power source or the switch used had 2 sections so that, in addition to plus, it also switched minus power supply. Power cons and pluses cannot be directly connected to each other permanently.
  • #14 16621443
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    gumisie wrote:
    Hello.
    From what I know, no specialized charger is required for this module, its basic requirements are appropriate current efficiency and voltage not exceeding 12.6V. https://abc-rc.pl/modul-ladowania-ochrony-ogniw-li-ion
    Best regards.


    So having this module and giving on P-, P + voltage 12.6V I can charge the cells freely yes? :about
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    #15 16621450
    gumisie
    Level 43  
    From the specifications on the page I gave it follows that yes, in my opinion, there should be no problem.
    Best regards.
  • #16 16633770
    darkmoner
    Level 9  
    In that case, thank you for your help ;)
  • #17 16634185
    LED5W
    Level 34  
    @gumisie Zajrzyj do noty katalogowej układu scalonego to zobaczysz, że to układ zabezpieczenia ogniw, a nie ładowania.
    http://datasheet.sii-ic.com/en/battery_protection/S8254A_E.pdf
    Quote:
    The S-8254A Series is a protection IC for 3-serial- or 4-serial-cell lithium-ion / lithium polymer rechargeable batteries and includes a high-accuracy voltage detector and delay circuit.
    The S-8254A Series protects both 3-serial or 4-serial cells using the SEL pin for switching.
  • #18 16634190
    gumisie
    Level 43  
    LED5W wrote:
    Look at the integrated circuit catalog note and you will see that it is a cell protection system,
    Layout, layout, module, module. Buddy, what do you think the protection of links is :?: . Read and understand the specifications of this module. https://abc-rc.pl/modul-ladowania-ochrony-ogniw-li-ion and do not provide links to any page from which there is a problem.
    Best regards.
  • #19 16634243
    LED5W
    Level 34  
    @gumisie I corrected the link. Protection consists in cutting off the cells when the voltage or current exceeds the permissible values. There is no other system there, so what do you think, what is the limitation of the charging current in this module? And where is the charging current in this specification?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable module for charging a 3-cell Li-ion battery pack. The user inquires about a specific module's charging capabilities, particularly regarding LED indicators for charge status. Responses suggest checking a specific product link for detailed specifications, confirming that the module can charge cells to a voltage of 12.6V. However, there is confusion regarding the module's protective functions versus its charging capabilities. Users clarify that while the module provides overcharge and discharge protection, a dedicated Li-Ion charger is necessary for proper charging. Recommendations for suitable chargers are provided, including links to products. The conversation concludes with confirmations that the discussed module can indeed charge the cells when supplied with the correct voltage.
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