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Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning

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  • #1 16644494
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    The thread will probably develop because I am going to do a full renovation, but at the beginning I am asking for help in extracting the scroll. No gentle prying does not work, and the wheel itself can be turned with difficulty with narrow pliers (one jaw in the crank hole, the other resting on one of the radial ribs.
    Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning
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  • #2 16644532
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    Pull out the securing on the other side.
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    #3 16644541
    DriverMSG
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    http://forum.corollaclub.pl/viewtopic.php?p=553289

    Probably worn off. I doubt that the axis will be damaged, sooner the plastic itself.
    Maybe heating it in hot water would help.
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  • #4 16644585
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    @ kkknc On the other side there is a steel axle set into the plastic of the housing :(

    @ DriverMSG Many thanks for finding this thread on the Corolla Forum, I was looking for it, but I didn't find it so detailed.

    Hot water loosened the wheel so much that the specimen turns easier, but there is no way to remove it. So I bent the plastic in the middle so as to come to the contact of the axle with the wheel and poured a penetrator overnight
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  • #5 16644586
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    There should be a spring wire protection.
  • #6 16645646
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    Well, it's a step forward, there's nothing like brute force :)
    No hot water or pentrators helped. In the crank hole (the big one above the shaft in the photo) I force a long M8 screw (a hole in the plastic fi 7). Then the screw head in a vice, a mallet fi 4 in one hand and a 1 kg hammer in the other. I rested the mallet centrally on the axle and knocked it lightly with the hammer. Well, the wheel came off :D
    I did not find any spring rings. The axle is sunk into the housing and has a groove halfway up, but in my opinion it is lubricious.

    After polishing the corroded axle with 1000 water-based paper, the worm wheel goes in and out without any problems.
    Now there will be electrical tests ...
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  • #7 16646663
    grzesiekw12
    Level 22  
    I used to do this engine at home, and I replaced a similar one in the pass or something from VW. Only different mounts, even the same Motorola processor on the module. But back to the topic, when the water came in, I did the sealing. On the axle where the wiper arm is bolted, you have a small O-ring and replace it, without it I had to quickly disassemble the second time :D For me, there was a short circuit in the motorola 5V power supply. The smd 100nF ceramic capacitor had a short circuit.
  • #8 16861262
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    grzesiekw12 wrote:
    For me, there was a short circuit in the motorola 5V power supply. The smd 100nF ceramic capacitor had a short circuit.

    I am returning to temau only now because in the so-called Meanwhile, at 70 km / h, the teeth of the timing chain sprocket (the first case known to my mechanic in history) and I had other priorities for some time.

    The wiper gear is made, briefly connected to the laboratory power supply, it turns nicely so it's time for the regulator:

    Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning

    How to check if tooto works on the table? Because I don't have a garage and the aura discourages outdoor testing ...
  • #9 16861353
    DriverMSG
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Adampio wrote:
    How to check if tooto works on the table? Because I don't have a garage and the aura discourages outdoor testing ...
    Do you have a 12V power supply and a whole motor at home? Or just the driver?

    PS> But I sensed that the website will disappear. :)
  • #10 16861514
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    DriverMSG wrote:
    Do you have a 12V power supply and a whole motor at home? Or just the driver?
    I have a power supply (Chinese from sklep.avt.pl, 0-30V / 5A) and a complex and lubricated gear with the motor (also lubricated) and the controller desoldered for cleaning the gear housing.

    PS as for the page, I regret it very much ...
  • #11 16862082
    DriverMSG
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Here you have a piece of the schematic, I am not 100% sure if it is for your model - check it.
    Corolla E1... [ENG].pdf (1.35 MB)You must be logged in to download this attachment.
  • #12 16862893
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    Thanks, it's a pity that it's so unreadable and at the source, i.e. in Haynes, where poor scans were inserted :(
    From the analysis of the diagram and the inspection of the motor and controller, it appears that the controller is connected to + and - (ground) and two wires shorted to ground in the handlebar on the steering wheel. Short circuit of one of them activates the wiper permanently and the other one with time intervals.
    There are three wires (metal paths) coming from the controller, going to the motor brushes. Two wires go to one brush, one of which is short-circuited / opened with the worm wheel's metal sheet.
    There is a MOSFET BUK445 in the controller that gives the mentioned + or - to the non-duplicated wire going to the motor brush.

    To clarify, where is + and where is -?
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    #13 16863254
    DriverMSG
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Adampio wrote:
    Two such wires go to one brush, one of which is short-circuited / opened with a sheet of the worm wheel.
    This is a downside.
    Plus gets the plus after switching on the relay.
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  • #14 16863342
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    Well, I know where the plus goes to the motor, so I can connect the whole thing with longer cables and connect it to the power supply. :D
    And this steering (switching on) with a minus from the steering wheel also sounds reasonable?
  • #15 16864345
    DriverMSG
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Adampio wrote:
    And this steering (switching on) with a minus from the steering wheel also sounds reasonable?
    In Japanese it is normal, they often have negative control.
  • #16 16868518
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    Well, the next step towards a bright future has already been taken ;)
    I will describe the matter for the successors.

    Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning Corolla E11 FL LB Rear Wiper Drive Repair: Full Renovation, Scroll Extraction & Difficulty Turning
    The yellow wire visible in the photo, pressed against the ground, causes a constant rotation of the white circle. Removing it from the mass causes the white wheel to spin for a while and always stops in the same position.
    When the yellow wire flows to the neighboring pin and "umasi" it, the white circle makes a full turn, stops for 2-3 seconds and then da capo .

    And here is one disturbing symptom: when the yellow wire disconnects from the ground, the wheel stops for a moment before the end of the turn once every 3-4 such attempts, and then it starts and definitely stops in the end position. About 2-3 times the wheel did not one such temporary "stop" but two.
    Worry about soldering the driver?
  • #17 16868911
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    The engine is not under load. It can be good.
  • #18 17416683
    Adampio
    Level 14  
    And the bowel, because I put my arm incorrectly and with the feather raised, everything was fine ala and when I lowered it, it got stuck on the lapel protrusion and died. So I have to take off again :cry:
    Is there maybe some individual hidden fuse? Because I know the fuses OK and the rest of the car works 8-O

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the repair of the rear wiper drive of a Corolla E11 FL LB, focusing on the extraction of the scroll and the challenges faced during the renovation process. Initial attempts to remove the scroll using gentle prying were unsuccessful, leading to suggestions such as heating the component in hot water and using penetrants. A successful method involved using a long screw to apply force while tapping with a hammer, which ultimately allowed for the removal of the wheel. The conversation also touches on the importance of replacing O-rings to prevent water ingress and discusses electrical testing of the motor and controller, including wiring configurations and troubleshooting potential issues with the motor's operation.

FAQ

TL;DR: For a stuck Corolla E11 FL LB rear wiper drive, users freed the worm wheel using an M8 screw and a 1 kg hammer; “there’s nothing like brute force.” [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16645646]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIYers fix slow, stuck, or mis‑parked rear wipers and safely bench‑test the motor/controller.

Quick Facts

How do I free a stuck rear wiper worm wheel (scroll) on the Corolla E11 FL LB?

Use an M8 screw in the crank hole as a puller. Clamp the screw head in a vice, place a small drift on the axle, and tap with a 1 kg hammer until the wheel releases. Then polish the corroded axle with 1000‑grit wet paper so the wheel slides freely. “There’s nothing like brute force.” [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16645646]

Is there a hidden spring-clip or circlip holding the scroll?

One user expected a spring-wire retainer, but none was found during teardown. The steel axle is sunk into the housing and has a mid‑shaft groove, yet the wheel released without finding any circlip on that side. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16645646]

Does heating in hot water help remove the wheel?

Heating softened the fit and made turning easier, but it did not free the wheel. Mechanical extraction with the M8 screw and tapping finally released it when penetrants and hot water failed. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16645646]

How do I bench‑test the rear wiper motor and controller together?

Use a 12 V lab supply (a 0–30 V/5 A unit works). Connect controller + and ground, then use the stalk inputs by grounding the control wire(s). The motor should run continuously or intermittently based on which input you ground. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16861514]

Is the Corolla’s rear wiper controlled by negative switching from the stalk?

Yes. “In Japanese it is normal, they often have negative control.” Grounding the appropriate stalk line commands constant or intermittent wipe during bench testing and in‑vehicle operation. [Elektroda, DriverMSG, post #16864345]

Where does +12 V feed the system, and what drives the motor?

The relay supplies +12 V to the motor circuit. A BUK445 MOSFET in the controller switches the non‑duplicated brush lead, while a park contact on the worm wheel manages auto‑stop at the home position. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16862893]

My bench test shows brief pauses before park—normal or a fault?

Short pauses near park can occur with no mechanical load. One user saw occasional momentary stops under bench conditions; under wiper load, behavior is acceptable. “The engine is not under load. It can be good.” [Elektroda, kkknc, post #16868911]

How do I trigger intermittent mode on the bench?

Ground the intermittent control pin. The wheel completes a turn, pauses about 2–3 seconds, then repeats. Grounding the constant‑run pin yields continuous rotation. Use insulated jumpers for safety. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16868518]

What seal should I replace to stop water ingress into the rear wiper motor?

Replace the small O‑ring on the output shaft where the arm mounts. Skipping this seal led one user to re‑open the unit after leaks returned. Reseat the cover and check all gaskets. [Elektroda, grzesiekw12, post #16646663]

Which electronic part commonly fails when water gets in?

A shorted 100 nF SMD ceramic capacitor on the 5 V rail was found and replaced successfully. Inspect the board for corrosion, then test capacitance and leakage before powering. [Elektroda, grzesiekw12, post #16646663]

What is the wiper “park switch,” and how does it work here?

A park switch ensures the arm stops at the same position. In this unit, a metal track on the worm wheel shorts/opens a brush lead, allowing the controller to stop precisely at park. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16862893]

How do I correctly refit the rear wiper arm to avoid jamming?

Set the arm on the spindle only after confirming the motor is parked. If you fit it too low, it can catch on the hatch lip and stall the system. Realign and tighten to spec. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #17416683]

Is there a separate hidden fuse for the rear wiper?

A user reported a stall after misfitting the arm and asked about a hidden fuse; the car’s main fuses were fine. No additional hidden fuse was identified in that case—re‑check alignment and wiring first. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #17416683]

What is a worm wheel (scroll) in this wiper drive?

It’s the plastic gear driven by a metal worm on the motor shaft. The wheel includes a conductive track for the park switch and mounts on the steel axle that can corrode and seize. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16862893]

3‑step: How do I extract the seized wheel safely?

  1. Thread a long M8 screw into the crank hole and clamp its head in a vice.
  2. Place a drift on the axle end and tap with a 1 kg hammer.
  3. Remove the wheel and polish the axle with 1000‑grit before reassembly. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16645646]

Why does the controller need three brush wires on the motor?

Two wires share one brush, with one path switched by the wheel’s metal track for park control. The third wire feeds the opposite brush via MOSFET/relay control, enabling run and auto‑stop functions. [Elektroda, Adampio, post #16862893]
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