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MAN TGX 2010 - PTM Error 5 05622-05: What Does It Mean & How to Fix?

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  • #1 16660746
    uhr
    Level 17  
    Hello and welcome
    Anyone know what the PTM 5 05622-05 error is about?
    I've searched but can't locate it.
    Thank you
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  • #2 16663503
    darfur5
    Level 35  
    PTM 05622-05; PTO 1 high side output, short-circuit to earth. That's all I found, hope it helps.
  • #3 16667457
    uhr
    Level 17  
    Short to ground? Hmm, what's that about? Nor delete it.
  • #4 16667958
    svavecone
    Level 25  
    The power take-off on the gearbox is activated by air pressure from a valve in the center frame of the vehicle. This valve is PTM operated (the older controller is FFR).
    Look for damage to the valve itself or the wiring to it. The fault is purely electrical, the resistance of the circuit.
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  • #5 16677094
    uhr
    Level 17  
    But is it standard Man TGX, or as an addition and additional drive to some mechanism?
    Because this Man is a standard, unless there was an appetizer and now it's gone.
  • #6 16677105
    svavecone
    Level 25  
    It is a control computer, it is present in all MANs from the TG A ... TG L generation, i.e. from around 2000. In the first phase they called it FFR now PTM. You won't go without it. Communicates the engine controller with the vehicle.
  • #7 16677150
    uhr
    Level 17  
    Anyone have a picture of this valve to locate it?
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  • #8 16677155
    svavecone
    Level 25  
    The photo won't give much, because there are several valves. Disconnect the air line from the PTO and blow air in there, it should come out of the valve you are looking for :)
  • #9 17644175
    uhr
    Level 17  
    The problem is that there is no PTO in this car. Maybe she was and is gone and the computer doesn't know about it? is it programmable? How do I add an appetizer?
  • #10 17644722
    darfur5
    Level 35  
    Yes, it's optional and can be removed if you don't have the snap. MAN Cats can handle it.
  • #11 17783791
    uhr
    Level 17  
    If the snap-in was disconnected and nothing was moved in the software and the PTM error is active, is it possible that intrader 3 does not work because of this?
  • #12 17783856
    svavecone
    Level 25  
    As for the error, invest in a valve or prepare a suitable resistance connected to the default PTM output and the error should disappear.
    As for the intarder, I don't think "this" PTO error has any effect on its operation.
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  • #13 17783935
    thesperado
    Level 14  
    svavecone wrote:
    or prepare a suitable resistance connected to the default PTM output and the error should disappear

    Good advice. In addition, check how the FMI code changes depending on whether you have the original valve connected, substitute resistance or wires not terminated with a valve. I got a TGA with a damaged FFR by this type of valve, although this should not happen. When replacing the valve, someone used a replacement with a different pin connection (made a short circuit) and FFR fell because of it. Everything should be protected against a short circuit, but ... it wasn't.

    uhr wrote:
    If the snap-in was disconnected and nothing was moved in the software and the PTM error is active, is it possible that intrader 3 does not work because of this?

    Is there anything saved in the intarder driver?
  • #14 17784055
    uhr
    Level 17  
    ZF intarder3 error 4222 oil temp sensor still appears? The harness of 3 sensors replaced, data appears on each of the sensors. The oil temp sensor works and the problem continues. The problem is that autocom only shows the active one and cannot be deleted 4222 in the intrader tab, the rest of the error is missing.
    The car has passive only the intrader module was switched, maybe that's why they appeared for a while (ret-s 4234-04 4266-04 4270-04 and PTM active 5622-05 ptm Power take-off on the gearbox can it also mix in the intarder?

    The throttle moves, the braking force appears on the display, but nothing happens.
    Oil filter changed, coils checked and working.
    Is this error related to the sensor or something else and autocom interprets it wrong?
  • #15 17784120
    svavecone
    Level 25  
    Read the values sent by this sensor, see what the temperature is.
    Also be sure that the controller is properly powered.
  • #16 17784378
    thesperado
    Level 14  
    What is your FMI with this IT3 4222 code?
  • #17 17806935
    Kaze89
    Level 8  
    There should be a relay for the PTO under the front grille on the passenger side, try removing it. In the "older" models there was probably also a plug on the passenger side at the back of the engine near the cabin lowering sensor. There should also be a signal to the PTO if it's factory.
  • #18 18153197
    uhr
    Level 17  
    darfur5 wrote:
    Yes, it's optional and can be removed if you don't have the snap. MAN Cats can handle it.


    Where is the option to disable this in mancats? I only see the VU test options.
    I only have a preview that it is active (power take-off 1 YES)
    I found the harness cut, but are these 4 cables. (marked 70 157 70 391+permanent after the ignition switch 70 393 and brown.
    MAN TGX 2010 - PTM Error 5 05622-05: What Does It Mean & How to Fix?

Topic summary

The PTM error code 5 05622-05 on the MAN TGX 2010 indicates a short-circuit to earth in the PTO 1 high side output. This issue is primarily electrical, often related to the power take-off (PTO) valve, which is activated by air pressure from a valve in the vehicle's center frame. Users are advised to inspect the valve and its wiring for damage. If the PTO is not present, it may be necessary to program the vehicle's computer to reflect this change. Solutions include investing in a new valve or using a suitable resistance to eliminate the error. Additionally, the discussion touches on related issues with the ZF intarder and its error codes, suggesting that the PTO error may not directly affect the intarder's operation.
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