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230V AC Coil Contactor: Understanding Electromagnet Functionality & Alternating Magnetic Field

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  • #1 16670794
    lolakr
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    Hello.
    For some time now I have been wondering how a contactor with a 230V AC coil works. After all, alternating current creates an alternating magnetic field, which would either attract or repel the contacts - such behavior is not suitable for closing the circuit. Another problem is when crossing zero the field disappears and nothing is holding the contacts. You could straighten the current, add a resistor or some other components, but I don't think that's what this is about. On the Internet I found a few answers about how such a contactor works, but I have not fully understood how a compact coil works. Is it a normal ring as shown?
    230V AC Coil Contactor: Understanding Electromagnet Functionality & Alternating Magnetic Field
    Besides, it does not explain the solution to the variable field problem - attraction and repulsion.
    I am asking for help in explaining the operation of such an electromagnet.
    I have a second question (partly related due to alternating current), namely how does an alternating current welder work if the arc disappears when crossing zero?
    Please help and thank you in advance for your answer :)
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    jdubowski
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    lolakr wrote:
    On the Internet I found a few answers about how such a contactor works, but I have not fully understood how a compact coil works. Is it a normal ring as shown?


    The picture is for a different topic - it is taken from here http://www.ncsm.city.nagoya.jp/cgi-bin/en/exhibition_guide/exhibit.cgi?id=S413 and describes Thomson's experience with the jumping ring.

    The AC contactor is made so that the core is divided into two parts, and a compact coil is placed on one. In this coil, a current is induced out of phase with the current in the coil, and when the current in the coil decays, the current in the shorted coil continues to flow, producing a magnetic flux holding the anchor.
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    lolakr
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    Make yourself an experiment - take a metal screw, wind some coils on it with an enameled cord. Maybe some in thin isolation. Connect it to the 9V battery back and forth. In any of these cases, does this electromagnet repel other elements?

    Ok, I already understand what's going on (I don't have a permanent magnet at the moment) but if I put a permanent magnet on it and did not rotate it, it would be attracted once and repulsed when changing polarity?
    jdubowski wrote:
    The AC contactor is made so that the core is divided into two parts, and a compact coil is placed on one. In this coil, a current is induced out of phase with the current in the coil, and when the current in the coil decays, the current in the shorted coil continues to flow, producing a magnetic flux holding the anchor.

    Could I have a simplified drawing please? I can't imagine it. (As if it were going to be the whole thing)
    Now the question arises:
    Are large industrial electromagnets AC or DC?
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    lolakr
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    But where was it used?

    Good question, I meant for example in electromagnetic lifts.
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    The compact coil is usually located in the middle column. There is a slight groove in the center through which the coil also passes. It surrounds half the cross section of the middle column.

    I just didn't understand the sentence above. Would it look like this?
    230V AC Coil Contactor: Understanding Electromagnet Functionality & Alternating Magnetic Field
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    lolakr
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    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    No. After all, I wrote that on the left side; P The core is marked as 4 and the magnetic armature is 5.
    6 is the spring that pushes the armature away from the core.

    That is correct, but is it a groove or a coil? Because the groove is on the left and a compact coil in the middle - the groove does not fit the coil.
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    There is a coil on the middle column (the horizontal one here), which is not here.
    the coil that is not there should be where I drew it? or on the left in the extension of this column like here?
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    jarek_lnx
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    The compact shading ring in question looks like this:

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  • #11 16672625
    lolakr
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    @jarek_lnx
    Something like that was going on :)
    @ Kraniec_Internetów
    środkowej kolumnie (tu poziomej) 

    As if to say it, darkest under the lantern, I was looking hard for some horizontal column to place this coil somewhere instead of where it should be - on the core :P Now I understand.
    If someone else has such a problem with imagining how it works, I also recommend a video in which the construction of the contactor and the role of a compact coil are shown.



    I consider the topic closed. Thanks to everyone for your help :)

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the functionality of a 230V AC coil contactor, specifically addressing the operation of its electromagnet and the implications of alternating current (AC) on magnetic fields. Participants explain that the contactor's core is divided, with a compact coil inducing a current that is out of phase with the main current, allowing for continuous magnetic flux even as the main current decays. This mechanism prevents the contacts from opening when the AC crosses zero. The conversation also touches on the design of the electromagnet, including the use of soft magnetic steel and the arrangement of coils. Visual aids and simplified drawings are requested to clarify the concepts discussed. The topic concludes with a recommendation for a video explaining the contactor's construction and operation.
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TL;DR: A 230V AC contactor stays closed because, as one expert says, "the core is divided into two parts" and a shading ring creates delayed flux during each 50 Hz zero crossing. This FAQ helps electronics learners understand AC coils, armature pull-in, welding arcs, and lifting magnets. [#16670921] Why it matters: Misunderstanding AC electromagnets can lead to coil overheating, contactor chatter, delayed release, or unsafe industrial switching.

Alternative Supply type Thread-specific behavior Best use case
AC contactor coil 230V AC Pulls in near 160V, then coil current falls after closure Standard mains contactors
DC electromagnet DC Polarity is fixed, so a permanent magnet may attract or repel Lifting magnets and steady holding
AC welding transformer AC Arc survives zero crossing because hot gas cools slowly Simple AC welding

Key insight: An AC contactor does not rely on one magnetic peak. Its shaded pole and mechanical inertia bridge the zero crossings, while soft magnetic steel prevents permanent magnet behavior.

Quick Facts

  • A nominal 230V AC contactor may close at about 160V; below that, pull-in force can be too small and coil current too high. [#16671503]
  • At 50 Hz AC, current crosses zero 100 times per second, so the armature needs delayed magnetic flux and mechanical inertia. [#16670835]
  • The shading ring surrounds about half of the middle limb cross-section in the E-shaped core groove. [#16671503]
  • An electric welding arc contains gas at several thousand degrees, so it does not cool instantly at current zero. [#16670835]
  • AC cores use laminated, varnish-insulated steel sheets to limit eddy currents and heating. [#16671503]

How does a 230V AC coil contactor keep its armature pulled in when the AC waveform crosses zero?

It uses delayed magnetic flux from a shorted shading ring plus mechanical inertia. At each 50 Hz zero crossing, the main coil flux briefly falls. The induced current in the shorted coil continues momentarily and holds the armature. Residual magnetism also helps for a short time. This prevents immediate release every half-cycle. [#16670921]

Why does an AC electromagnet in a contactor attract a steel armature instead of alternating between attraction and repulsion?

It attracts the steel armature because the armature is magnetized by the same changing flux. When coil polarity reverses, both magnetic poles reverse together. The facing poles still become opposite, so attraction remains. A permanent magnet behaves differently because its N and S poles stay fixed. [#16670835]

What is a shading ring or compact coil in an AC contactor, and what does it do?

A shading ring is a shorted conductive loop that delays part of the magnetic flux, producing holding force near AC zero. It has induced current out of phase with the main coil current. When the main flux decays, the ring current still flows briefly. This reduces buzzing and armature drop-out in a 230V AC contactor. [#16670921]

Where is the shading ring located on the E-shaped core of a typical AC contactor?

The shading ring sits in a groove on the middle limb of the E-shaped core. It usually surrounds about half of that limb’s cross-section. The thread identifies the core as part 4 and the armature as part 5. The return spring, marked 6, pushes the armature away when the coil releases. [#16671503]

How is the main coil placed on the middle limb of an E-shaped contactor core?

The main coil is wound around the middle limb of the E-shaped core. In the discussed drawing, that limb appears horizontal. The E core has 3 limbs, and the coil goes on the central one. The armature closes the magnetic path when pulled toward the core. [#16671981]

What happens to the current in a 230V AC contactor coil before and after the armature closes?

The coil current is high before closure and lower after the armature closes. With an air gap, inductance is low and impedance is low. After closure, the magnetic path improves, inductance rises, and current falls. The thread states a 230V contactor closes near 160V under nominal conditions. [#16671503]

Why can a 230V AC contactor coil overheat if it is powered with too low a voltage?

It can overheat because the armature may not close, leaving the coil in its high-current pull-in state. Too low a voltage gives too little magnetic force. The thread warns that such a contactor can burn after a few minutes. This is a failure mode, not normal operation. [#16671503]

What is residual magnetism, and how does it affect the release time of a relay or contactor?

Residual magnetism is leftover magnetization that briefly remains after coil current falls. It acts like magnetic inertia between the core and armature. This can delay release after the supply disappears. The thread notes that the shading arrangement helps reduce unwanted delayed switch-off. [#16670835]

What is magnetic hysteresis in an AC electromagnet core?

Magnetic hysteresis is energy loss caused by repeatedly remagnetizing the core during AC operation. Steels that are harder to remagnetize lose more energy. In a 50 Hz electromagnet, this process repeats every cycle. Soft magnetic steel reduces this loss and avoids becoming a permanent magnet. [#16671503]

AC coil vs DC coil contactors — which is better for switching industrial loads and why?

Neither is universally better; choose the coil type to match the available control supply and holding behavior. A 230V AC coil can pull in directly from mains control voltage. A DC coil gives steady polarity and avoids AC zero-crossing holding issues. The contacts, not the coil type alone, determine industrial load switching capacity. [#16671503]

How can I make a simple electromagnet experiment with a screw, enameled wire, and a 9V battery to understand attraction and polarity?

Make a simple DC electromagnet and reverse the battery to test polarity. 1. Wind insulated or enameled wire around a metal screw. 2. Connect the wire ends to a 9V battery. 3. Reverse the battery and test attraction again. Steel pieces still attract; a fixed permanent magnet may attract or repel. [#16670835]

Why are AC electromagnet and transformer cores made from laminated steel sheets instead of solid metal?

They use laminated steel sheets to reduce eddy current heating. A solid steel core would allow large induced currents and behave like a heater. Thin sheets break the current paths. Varnish insulation separates the sheets, and transformer steel improves magnetic performance. [#16671503]

How do eddy current losses occur in an AC electromagnet core?

Eddy current losses occur when changing magnetic flux induces currents inside the steel core. Those currents waste power as heat. A solid core allows larger circulating currents. Laminated sheets divide the core and reduce those currents. Higher steel resistance also reduces eddy currents by Ohm’s law. [#16671503]

How does an AC welding arc continue working if the current crosses zero every half-cycle?

The arc continues because the hot ionized gas does not cool instantly at zero current. The thread describes the arc as gas at several thousand degrees. That hot gas keeps conducting long enough for the next half-cycle to reignite or continue conduction. Thermal inertia bridges the brief zero crossing. [#16670835]

What type of electromagnet is typically used in electromagnetic lifting magnets, and why is DC often preferred?

Electromagnetic lifting magnets typically use DC because steady polarity gives stable holding force. The thread answer states that DC seems to be used for electromagnetic lifts. DC also avoids the AC zero-crossing problem seen every half-cycle. That matters when lifting steel loads safely. [#16671700]
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