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Understanding the Working Mechanism of an Integrating System with Large RC

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  • #1 16740101
    secretivesea
    Level 2  
    Hello all.
    As in the subject, I would ask someone to explain to me how the integration system works. If I think correctly, the RC should be very large, then the system to which we will input a rectangular signal, we get a triangular signal at the output. Below I put a diagram of such a system.
    Understanding the Working Mechanism of an Integrating System with Large RC
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  • #3 16740158
    MiernikZKauflanda
    Level 20  
    This is a low pass filter. An ideal filter of this type passes all frequencies below f = 1/2 (pi) RC where R and C are the values of elements in ohms and farads.
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  • #4 16740340
    secretivesea
    Level 2  
    I read, but I have a problem with understanding integration. I read about it and not on Wikipedia only in a book but I want to understand it more. If you have links to hopeless pages, where there is only dry theory, then give up such comments ? And this is a low-pass filter is your way, but it is also an integrating system when we use a high RC value, the system kisses the input signal over time, what I mean is integration into peasant reason.
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  • #5 16740468
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    On the fact that the speed of voltage changes at the output is proportional to the voltage at the input.
  • #6 16741331
    jarek_lnx
    Level 43  
    It is best to consider the integration and differentiation system together and start with the differentiation system because it is an inverse operation of integration and simpler to understand.
    Understanding the Working Mechanism of an Integrating System with Large RC
    This system gives the higher output voltage, the faster the input voltage changes. For example, let's take a potentiometer connected to a constant voltage working as a position sensor, connect the differential system to the potentiometer slider and we have a signal proportional to the speed of movement of the object mechanically connected to the potentiometer, simple and useful.

    Integration is the reverse operation, let's assume that we install a tachometric generator in the car giving voltage proportional to the speed, integrating the speed we get information about the distance traveled, integration is a simplification of the summation, in the end the way can also be counted by adding up the sections traveled by the car at different speeds.

    In practice, such simple passive systems are rarely used to perform mathematical operations from which they have a name, because neither the integral nor differentiating system is ideal, but with the use of active elements it is possible to make systems closer to the ideal.

    The integrity of the integrity system is not ideal, it means that the ideal system after providing a constant value signal should give the output a constantly increasing voltage - indefinitely if necessary, the "integrating" RC system will give the output at most as much as it has at the input, a perfect integration system from a rectangular course will do a triangular with a constant slope, and a passive system will do a "folded triangle" as below

    Understanding the Working Mechanism of an Integrating System with Large RC
    The waveform is closer to the triangle, the lower the output amplitude in relation to the input one, so the possibilities of improving the system's operation are weak, because what is almost perfect if the amplitude is extremely small.

    The integrating system connected after the differentiator or vice versa should give the same course as at the input.
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