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High Ping in Evening Games: Radio Internet, Antenna & Solutions for Peak Hour Latency Issues

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Why does my game ping get high only in the evening on radio internet, and what can I do about it?

Your evening ping spikes are most likely caused by congestion or insufficient capacity on the ISP’s radio network during peak hours, not by your antenna, router, or PC. Wireless links can get overloaded in the evening and then latency rises even if the signal level is good [#16812603][#16826301] The practical options mentioned are to play outside peak hours, ask the provider to increase network capacity/backhaul, or change to another ISP [#16814423] If the provider is small or the radio segment is overloaded, changing cables or connecting directly to the PC will not fix it [#16827294] For gaming, several replies say radio internet is generally much worse than copper or fiber, so switching to a wired provider is the most reliable solution [#16812603][#16814423]
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  • #1 16812578
    capitank96
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    Good evening, I am writing with a problem that I have been struggling with for about a month, namely high ping in games, but only in the evening. In the morning or late in the evening (around 23-24) ping is low, it does not cause any problems (jumping or maintaining high ping as it is in the evening). I called the network operator (radio internet) with this problem, the service provider checked the range and announced that it was at the level of 100%, also damage to the antenna can be ruled out. I tried to connect the Internet directly to the computer via cable and router, but it does not change anything. Can you suggest a solution?
    High Ping in Evening Games: Radio Internet, Antenna & Solutions for Peak Hour Latency Issues High Ping in Evening Games: Radio Internet, Antenna & Solutions for Peak Hour Latency Issues High Ping in Evening Games: Radio Internet, Antenna & Solutions for Peak Hour Latency Issues
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  • #2 16812603
    seb235
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    If the ping is high only in the evening hours, which I understand in peak hours, it probably does not make the connection / equipment on the side of your ISP. Unfortunately, wireless links have it that they quickly clog up and ping starts to grow. There is probably only one solution to this problem - changing your ISP to the one that provides a copper or fiber optic service in your location. Unfortunately, the radio Internet for games is average.
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  • #3 16814423
    KOCUREK1970
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    capitank96 wrote:
    Can you suggest a solution?

    1 Play online in non-evening hours.
    2 Force the current operator to increase the overhead (bandwidth) on his network.
    3 Change supplier.
    There is no other way to do it.
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  • #4 16826301
    waluszek
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    Quote:
    The thing about wireless links is that they quickly clog up and ping starts to grow


    This is not entirely the case, it all depends on the operator and the infrastructure. If the operator has a base to which 30 clients will connect, and this base is powered by a poor-quality radio, or poorly tuned, or worse, it is a 3 or 5 jump on the skeleton, the bridge does not work and the pings jump. Rarely, the operator decides to use decent shipments to remote bases.

    It all depends on the provider and the willingness to provide a good quality service.

    Copper cable or optical fiber is still not a panacea for all ills. It should be remembered that between the ISP and the game server there is often a whole number of internet sites :) and intermediate networks, and no one can guarantee the condition of the network further downstream.

    I wonder what everyone insisted on complaining about this unfortunate radio, I currently have over 200 clients on the radio and a lot of players, especially "CS" and no one complains about high pings or poor quality internet, I think I managed to cure radiophobia with them . :)
  • #5 16827294
    crashbit
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    waluszek wrote:
    It all depends on the provider and the willingness to provide a good quality service.

    Well, that's the problem. There are two radio suppliers in my area. One of them (the bigger one I once bought internet). As it turned out, during peak hours it was not possible to load pictures on websites (max 24Mbps connection). As I went with the complaints it is standard text. "Everything is fine with us." "probably the processor is not working for you, or the disk just read a lot", "possibly the switch loses packets". The Komp was connected directly to their mikrotika with a 6th category cable with i7 3gen and ssd samsung pro 840. But the hour of war with the owner only led to the fact that the gentlemen took off what they had put on with a huge grace and a waste of money for the assembly service.
    So, in my opinion, my colleagues are right, the option to change ISP is probably the only one. I doubt there would be any chances of persuading the operator to change the equipment :)
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  • #6 16829530
    seb235
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    You know because in general the problem is mostly with small suppliers, regardless of the technology they provide the service. Because on the one hand you save money and on the other hand you want to earn money quickly and the effect is always the same.
  • #7 16830358
    crashbit
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    But technology simply cannot cope with a large number of customers in a small area. And it will not. Unfortunately, sharing the transmission medium does the job completely. The small number of separated channels and other aspects are just a bottleneck.
    The same story applies to all LTE technologies. It works fine as long as there are not too many takers.
    I absolutely do not believe that you can create a good, fast wifi network in a small area with lots of people. There would have to be transmitters every bit and very short ranges. Even if someone would come close to solving such problems, at what cost.
    And let's not be charmed. What can you give to link to your users to make it good. We have a housing estate in the city (tight buildings) and we want 50 users there, and each of them wants to have, for example, 30Mbps. Even assuming a simultaneousness of 50%, the transmitter would have to squeeze out of itself 750Mbps. So let's count what costs.

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  • #8 16831604
    waluszek
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    Quote:
    What can you give to link to your users to make it good. We have a housing estate in the city (tight buildings) and we want 50 users there, and each of them wants to have, for example, 30Mbps. Even assuming a simultaneousness of 50%, the transmitter would have to squeeze out of itself 750Mbps. So let's count what costs.


    Apparently, my friend knows the theories of building a radio network and has never done one himself.

    I have an example from my network, the network has been working since May, I have about 200 clients, a lot of CS players, I sell packages up to 80 mega (YES Radio)
    And I haven't had a single complaint yet that the ping is high, the net is bad or something like that.
    Yes, there are complaints that something does not work, but it is only electronics, sometimes the client's router freezes, sometimes the antenna.

    This is verified by the fact that people are giving up neostrada for my network.

    If you are setting up a network with a get-rich-quick scheme in mind, I have to recover from the mistake, it is impossible in the long run. Because customers will verify it very quickly and let it go with the bags.

    The golden rule I follow is selling the Internet only from the base connected to the optical fiber, or a good radio link and not making radio chicks, unless the client is aware of it and cares about the connection, I will explain to him beforehand how it works and what the risks are. But fortunately I don't have many of them.

    It all depends on whether you do what you like and earn money by the way, or do what you have to and try to earn as much as possible before (the loser) realizes that he is pounded in the horns.
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    crashbit
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    waluszek wrote:
    I have about 200 clients, a lot of CS players, I sell packages up to 80 mega

    Tell me, buddy, how many antennas do you have on the stations and what type?
  • #10 16839495
    waluszek
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    I have 4 bases in total, 3 Rocket AC lite sets + AM-5G16-120 antenna on each. 3 bases connected with optical fiber and one with AC PtP rockets.
    There are approximately 3-4 clients out of 80 for each database.
    The most customers are with 10 and 20 mega packages, there are also many with 40 mega packages. I have over a dozen 80 mega packages.

    Only the specificity is a bit strange for me, because I have a lot of multi-family buildings, connected in such a way that there is one AC antenna on the roof and customers are connected to it in a collective form. as a rule, 4-6 to one antenna.
  • #11 16839662
    crashbit
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    waluszek wrote:
    connected in collective form. as a rule, 4-6 to one antenna

    Well, it certainly makes your task much easier. Maybe you're right, maybe not. My experiences are bad. Maybe the terrain is bad. Maybe people do not calculate because ISP prefers to invest in blocks of flats. I have no idea.
    Out of curiosity, I can ask what uplink do you have? What's in your core?
  • #12 16839733
    waluszek
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    Currently, I have 0.5 Gbps netia, link saturation at 40% with about 200 clients. + 200 mega Vlan under IPTV. Celeron + debian based router and mikrotik CCR1009 as PPPoE concentrator
    In general, equipment with a large reserve of power for further development. At a later stage, he plans to switch to optics.

    The assumption was that I did not want to duplicate the mistakes of other operators, with whom I also encountered some time, I assumed a longer payback period, but I could use better equipment and balance it more, unfortunately there are still many ISPs who approach the topic negligently. especially when they have a monopoly in the area.
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    crashbit
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    waluszek wrote:
    Currently, I have 0.5 Gbps netia, link saturation at 40% with about 200 clients. + 200 mega Vlan under IPTV. Celeron + debian based router and mikrotik CCR1009 as PPPoE concentrator
    In general, equipment with a large reserve of power for further development. At a later stage, he plans to switch to optics.

    The assumption was that I did not want to duplicate the mistakes of other operators, with whom I also encountered some time, I assumed a longer payback period, but I could use better equipment and balance it more, unfortunately there are still many ISPs who approach the topic negligently. especially when they have a monopoly in the area.


    Well, the operator I was talking about has 3 10Gbps links. For the sake of the image, I will say that I can sell optical fibers in packages of up to 500 / 50Mbps and the subscription fee in this offer is PLN 59 per month, of course gross. Additionally, there are higher forks at night and you can have twice as much. It is logical that there is no need to buy good equipment for users.
    I live in the above-mentioned housing estate and as the ONLY I have vdsl with orange which pulls 80Mbps because I fought for a week on the hotline that the wardrobe with light has been in the estate for 2 years and NO ONE has been connected to it. It's probably for the sake of peace they gave it. The rest can choose from ADSL max 3Mbps with a link to the exchange 3 kilometers from the house (despite the cabinet on the premises) or the above-mentioned ISP that has them in ........
    The big question is why celeron with debian is routing you and not MT? I put the above-mentioned mt a few times as a tip in demanding places and with a few dozen rules on FireWall plus extensive queuing, he did not tire much with two 500 lines. Any additional reason why it is on the Intel?
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  • #14 16840648
    waluszek
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    Celeron with Debian for a simple reason, there is also a whole network management system "LMS" Statistics, and a whole lot of other services. Debian gives the freedom to compile what is needed, and you don't have to stick to the software manufacturer's framework. After that, the other way around. "LMS" He couldn't manage the network, and so he is connected by a radius, and does what it should, ie PPPoE firewall sessions for clients and so on.

    And it is on the Intel because when I started building it, I had such equipment at hand, in the sense of the board has an integrated processor and is in the picoITX format, it consumes only 25 W of electricity. It just happened somehow :)

    As for your ISP with optical fiber, it apparently does not fully cover your backyard if such a network does not work for him, or it collapses and assumes that it will be somehow. and counts on low prices and economies of scale.

Topic summary

✨ High ping issues during evening gaming sessions are attributed to peak hour congestion in radio internet connections. Users report that while their connection is stable during off-peak hours, latency spikes occur in the evening, suggesting that the problem lies with the ISP's infrastructure rather than the user's equipment. Recommendations include switching to a different ISP that offers copper or fiber optic services, as radio internet is often inadequate for gaming. Some users emphasize the importance of quality infrastructure and equipment, noting that many small ISPs struggle to provide reliable service due to high client loads and poor network management. Suggestions for improvement include increasing bandwidth, playing during non-peak hours, or changing providers altogether.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Evening ping spikes on radio internet usually point to peak-hour congestion, not your PC. “Link saturation at 40% with about 200 clients” shows capacity planning matters. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16839733]

Why it matters: If you game at night and see lag, you need provider-side fixes or a new ISP, not another router.

Quick-Facts

Quick Facts

Why is my ping high only in the evening on radio internet?

Because many subscribers compete for the same wireless capacity after work. The shared medium queues packets, adding latency and jitter. This is classic peak-hour congestion on WISP and LTE-style access. Upgrading local gear won’t fix upstream overload. [Elektroda, seb235, post #16812603]

Does strong signal or a new antenna fix evening ping spikes?

No. Full signal means good RF link quality, not available backhaul. If the sector or upstream is saturated at night, latency rises even with “100% range.” Antenna swaps or direct cabling won’t help if the bottleneck is beyond your router. [Elektroda, capitank96, post #16812578]

What are the fastest practical fixes?

Three options work: play off‑peak, ask your ISP to add capacity (more backhaul/overhead), or switch providers to copper or fiber if available. These target the real bottleneck instead of your home equipment. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #16814423]

Can radio internet be good for gaming at all?

Yes, when engineered well. One WISP reports ~200 clients, packages up to 80 Mbps, and “no complaints” from CS players due to solid backhaul and design. Good WISPs plan for load, not just signal bars. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16831604]

What should I ask my ISP to change to lower ping?

Ask for increased upstream/backhaul to your base station, fewer wireless hops, and proper tuning. As one operator said, quality hinges on infrastructure and willingness to provide it, not radio vs fiber alone. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16826301]

How do I isolate whether the issue is my router or the ISP?

Use this 10‑minute check:
  1. Test ping to the same game/server morning vs evening.
  2. Bypass your router; connect PC via Ethernet to the provider handoff.
  3. Compare results; unchanged spikes indicate provider congestion. [Elektroda, capitank96, post #16812578]

Why are dense neighborhoods and LTE often worse at night?

Shared spectrum and limited channels create collisions and airtime contention. With 50 users wanting 30 Mbps, a sector may need ~750 Mbps at 50% simultaneity. Without that capacity, latency climbs. [Elektroda, crashbit, post #16830358]

What network design details correlate with low gaming latency on WISPs?

Fiber-fed bases, high‑quality PtP uplinks, and sectorized antennas reduce hops and contention. Example: Rocket AC Lite with 120° sectors, multiple fiber-fed bases, and separate IPTV VLAN keep queues short. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16839495]

What is backhaul, and why does it matter for ping?

Backhaul is the upstream link from your base station to the ISP/core. If it’s undersized, every customer feels it. One operator runs a 0.5 Gbps backhaul at ~40% load for ~200 clients to keep latency steady. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16839733]

What is PPPoE, and does it affect gaming latency?

PPPoE is a tunnel that authenticates subscribers. Properly configured on capable gear (e.g., CCR1009 concentrator), it adds minimal overhead. The real driver is upstream capacity and queueing, not PPPoE itself. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16839733]

My ISP blames my PC or switch. Is that plausible?

It’s possible, but peak-only spikes usually aren’t your PC. A user connected an i7/SSD directly to the ISP’s router and still saw peak slowdowns. That points to provider congestion, not your hardware. [Elektroda, crashbit, post #16827294]

Is switching from radio to fiber always a cure?

Fiber removes the wireless last‑mile bottleneck, but end‑to‑end paths still cross multiple networks. Poor routing or congested upstreams can still add latency to game servers. “Copper or fiber is not a panacea.” [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16826301]

What gear choices help a small ISP keep pings low?

Use ample upstream, separate IPTV traffic, and dedicated PPPoE concentrators. Example stack: 0.5 Gbps uplink, +200 Mbps IPTV VLAN, Debian-based router, CCR1009 for PPPoE. Capacity planning beats signal strength. [Elektroda, waluszek, post #16839733]

Any edge cases I should know before committing?

Some ISPs underinvest, then deflect with support scripts. If peak-hour issues persist and responses are dismissive, change providers rather than chasing endless home upgrades. [Elektroda, crashbit, post #16827294]
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