Leading the twisted pair outside the building [window adapter? ]

Hi,

As in the subject, I need to lead the twisted pair outside the building.
I had 3 tubes led out under the window: radio, TV and twisted pair.
They came, insulated a large slab with styrofoam, plastered it ... and then the twisted pair failed, and the pipes were seized ...

The whole is about 60m of cable, of which 30m outside.

I have 3 options, in order:
1) The most interesting option - https://www.dmtrade.pl/p7526,przejscie-przelotka-podokienna-rj45-ultra-slim.html

Expected 1Gbps, maybe someday 10Gbps.
In total, I can buy 2 pieces and check them first (I won't check 10Gbps), but maybe someone knows what to expect from such an invention?

How to cleverly secure the connection on the outside of the window?

2) Opening at the bottom of the PVC window frame

How can such treatments affect the parameters of the window?
This window is already several years old, and it is not going to the competition.
I don't know if they are hollow or you can come across metal inside
In total, the hole is small, 8mm at the top.
It will be sealed and a section of wire let down below the level of the hole so that water does not run into the frame.

3) Hole in the wall under the sill or on the ground under the skirting board
The least interesting option, armored walls, possible damage to the plaster.

I must admit, the most convenient option 1), no drilling, but a loss.

In terms of losses, the old twisted-pair cable survived.
CAT 5E on a cable, cracked sheath, water was already pouring into the switch + was pieced together with a meter of cable outside (the pairs were untangled at a length of approx. 50mm and pieced together with gel connectors ).
Amazingly as there was no moisture in the air it was 1Gbps. It rained down to 100Mbit.

Can anyone comment on 1) and 2)?

Thanks.

This grommet will be constantly abused by the window, I wonder how long it will last.
The second issue is moisture on the contacts. It doesn't look airtight.

You drill holes in the frame, not the window, and I consider this to be the best solution.

Yes, it's about the frame, not the movable window frame.

The adapter is not hermetic, hence the auxiliary question was how to cleverly seal it, because if you are stubborn, you can put it in a coca cola bottle and seal the ends.
The grommet would go under the wing, which is not opened very often.

First of all, replace the twisted pair cable (preferably with an external one), because when I read what miracles you did with it, it made my head hurt. The most durable and sensible option will be to drill through the wall. It is enough to watch out for installations in the wall or elements of metal construction so as not to damage the drill unnecessarily. As for the second idea, drilling a hole in the window frame is an average solution. When using the third solution, you will have no problem replacing the window. However, if you prefer to "run the twisted pair through the window" then drill halfway across the window frame. You should then avoid the metal elements inside. And as for sealing and securing the cable, ordinary silicone in the tube does the job.

Misiaell wrote:

However, if you prefer to "run the twisted pair through the window" then drill halfway across the window frame. You should then avoid the metal elements inside.

This is not entirely true. If we have plastic windows, it is enough to enter "plastic window cross-section" in Google to see what the construction of windows is. So you have to be prepared to hit metal.

You're probably right, but I don't think such an opening should have much or no effect on the window.

vooyeq wrote:

They came, insulated a large slab with styrofoam, plastered it..

I'm just wondering what the Administration/Management of the building will say about such a "curtain" hanging on the new façade.

It does not affect the window, but it may happen that while drilling the hole you will hit the edge of the metal insert and one hole may fail and you will have to drill the next one.

sosarek wrote:

vooyeq wrote:

They came, insulated a large slab with styrofoam, plastered it..

I'm just wondering what the Administration/Management of the building will say about such a "curtain" hanging on the new façade.

The administration, hereinafter referred to as the cooperative, already knows the history of communication between the 2 buildings (this will be the third twisted pair).
They fixed one with a blowtorch when they were putting roofing felt 8 years ago.
They cut the other one when they were laying the insulation a year ago.

You have to be of good cheer

If the window would not be opened too often, this option would make sense.

Isn't it better to set up a wireless bridge since it's a connection between two buildings?

Misiaell wrote:

If the window would not be opened too often, this option would make sense.

Not very. On the outside, there would be a socket/plug connection, and this may mean susceptibility to corrosion of the contacts. It would have to be secured somehow. Of course, there are, for example, external access points with such a connection and they work, but there is nothing like a continuous cable resistant to weather conditions.

These grommets are not always a bad idea, they are the simplest and least invasive. And sealing is also quite simple, the "clean" ways are heat-shrink insulation, alternatively silicone, hot glue. It won't float in water...
The biggest argument against such a grommet is the frequent opening of the window. It can be wiped/damaged quickly.

As already drilled, it is rather in plaster, more solid, but in practice you have to decide for yourself what will be best in a given case and how this cable is best led then

Due to laziness and lack of time, I made a temporary solution at home - I cut a regular 5eUTP window with the intention that when summer comes, I will do it "ready". 100Mb and additionally POE after that flies .... the seventh year. The fact that the window is occasionally opened, often tilted (twisted pair at the bottom edge of the window, plastic window). The strand is more durable than it seems (not Chinese because it's like a clothesline and that's how it works)

Well, nothing, I chose the hole in the frame, if the windows are to be replaced, and thus a solid renovation, one more hole in the wall and the binding of the end will somehow be involved in "costs".

Just in case (and curiosity, "high quality" for 12 PLN ) I ordered grommets under the window as a temporary solution, if for various reasons there was not enough time for the whole project.

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Wireless is out, I don't trust these patents.

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I let go of 10Gbps, if I need such a connection at all, the next approach will be optical fiber.

To sum up, ultimately Madex 5e external, non-gelled (black lagging + 10m of vertical strands so that it does not spill) and holes in the door frames.

vooyeq wrote:

Wireless is out, I don't trust these patents.

I build bridges for monitoring often, starting from TL-CPE210 through TL-EAP110-OUTDOOR, LOCO M2 to DH-PFM880 ending - I have no problems, and I have installed a lot of it.

But in order to make a Wi-Fi bridge, you should also somehow lead the cable outside.

Yes - only there is no curtain outside that acts as a bench for birds and is not exposed to other factors - drilling under the windowsill, assembly on Fischery in polystyrene.

Hmm, did you take the "stormy things around" into account?
So about what current can sometimes be induced in such an uncovered cable during a strong storm and close discharges, and additionally - that sometimes even potential differences between two blocks (arising even through simple air friction in strong wind) can sometimes harm our beloved network hardware...
In such situations, I would consider optocouplers at the ends of such a cable .... of course, if the price of equipment on both sides would exceed the price of this solution

3 twisted pairs, over a dozen years in total, storms a lot during this time, never happened.

Well, as I remember the times from the period of my "first work in networks" (read: housing estate and city) from 2001-2, with a network of 1000-1200 customers in a dozen or so housing estates and infrastructure, practically 75% on twisted pair (with an admixture of leases and ptp radio connections) - we exchanged every major storm with 8-10 switches (then they were 100-port 8-16-port Planets, Dlinks, etc. with ~1A external power supplies) - just as a result of induced voltage and electrical flashovers during the storm damage to the ports .... And since the cables went both inside the buildings (in communication routes or shafts) and outside and entered the building - it was impossible to avoid this effect. Of course, RJ-45 optocouplers were already available at that time, but their price compared to the price of an average 8-port Planet or Dlink switch was so prohibitive that together with the company's management we decided that we would stick with ad hoc switch replacements....

If you need to take care of more "subscribers", then yes.

Here the issue concerns 2 people, and as I mentioned, it will be over 10 years that the simplest 5E twisted pair will do the job.