[Solved] Powerful LPG-Compatible Petrol Engine Car (2014+): Middle/Higher Class, 200KM - Budget 70k PLN

Hello
I want to buy a strong car - preferably a middle class or higher (eventually an overgrown compact) necessarily with an engine that tolerates LPG well.

It's supposed to be a car for about PLN 70,000 and not older than 2014, preferably a naturally aspirated engine ... preferably a limousine, liftback, station wagon, basically no more requirements ... but BMW / Audi / Mercedes are out ...

Initially, I thought about, for example, Toyota Avensis 2.0, but this car has a power of 156KM and is quite heavy - but it is too weak an engine. If it had about 200KM - it would be perfect.

What is stronger and proven suitable for gassing?

best regards ! Tida

Mazda CX-9 3.7L V6 Engine

Nice car, but unfortunately it's an SUV ... but preferably something a'la limousine.
And the engine with manual valve lash adjustment - in addition on "glasses". I know I'm whining...what else?

Because I will ask:
- is such an SUV suitable for routes, i.e. quite long trips on highways and expressways, in the sense of whether at high speeds (say about 140-160Km / h) it will be stable and comfortable enough as a limousine? I haven't actually driven any relatively new SUV, I have no experience, and limousines - yes. And I rate such a ride in limousines as good.

This 3.7L engine in the CX-9 is a Ford engine (slightly modified by Mazda) used in e.g. Mustang, F-150 etc.
Very good for LPG, it's nothing that valve adjustment is without hydraulics, often you don't have to do it.

kisses Nix

Volvo S60 II 2,0T
Renault Laguna III Phase 2- 2,0 turbo

Honda Accord 2.4/201KM

tida1 wrote:

is such an SUV suitable for routes, i.e. quite long trips on highways and expressways, in the sense of whether at high speeds

BMW on A1, Cayenne in Slovakia, these are just some of the louder examples of whether any SUV is suitable for fast driving.

I am of the same opinion, although some people drive SUVs on the highway and praise themselves, but it's democracy

A8 4.2 . S6, maybe older RS6 plus power change because the series is not going.

tida1 wrote:

Hello
I want to buy a strong car ... but BMW / Audi / Mercedes are out ...

Unfortunately, as I wrote above, BMW / Audi / Mercedes is out ...

With this budget you can gas everything or almost everything. Interesting cars seem to me to be Skoda Octavia Scout/Seat Leon Xperience/Volkswagen Golf Alltrack. It is true that they have a 1.8TFSI engine with hybrid injection, which does not make them the best choice for LPG (of course, the 6th generation), but they can and do run. Unlike many Crossovers and SUVs, they can be driven on light terrain, and at the same time they drive much more confidently and better. A powerful diesel is more suited to them, but if for whatever reason you don't want it, the 1.8TFSI is standard there with a DSG gearbox and a fifth-generation Haldex 4x4 drive. After years of driving diesels, I tried to try naturally aspirated petrols, but I don't think I could drive it anymore. In such a car, if you have a petrol without a turbo, then at least a V6.

Optional Volvo 2.5T, Focus ST.

ABLublin wrote:

Mazda CX-9 3.7L V6 Engine

After all, it's a heavy 2-tonne ox with acceleration of about 10 to a hundred and a limit of 190KM / h. Naturally aspirated sedans with 2.0 on board eat faster.
I propose a Chrysler 300C after the facelift, = Lancia Thema II with 3.6 286KM engines (after the facelift 296KM) excellent gas engines and very economical. A stately 1900 kg limousine goes to a hundred in less than 7 seconds.
Another Ford Mustang, but 4.6, or a Dodge Charger 3.6, 5.7 hemi, etc.
for gas, it is rather only naturally aspirated and from overseas, because there are not many cars left with indirect injection.

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

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for gas, it is rather only naturally aspirated and from overseas, because there are not many cars left with indirect injection.

But after all, they also gas on direct injection (with or without turbo) on IV gen. installations with injection and it's ok.

kisses Nix

With this walking ok, most modern direct injection engines have problems with gasoline alone, let alone gas. There is nothing like a large naturally aspirated engine.

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

... most modern direct injection engines have problems with gasoline alone, let alone gas...

I take it that was meant to be a little tongue-in-cheek?
Because if you're serious, I wonder what big (and rich) car concerns would say...

Do you think that direct injection has only advantages? You're wrong.

Take the Lexus. Or Legends.

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

Do you think that direct injection has only advantages? You're wrong.

Nothing on this earth has only advantages... why should I think that?

Lexus... which one specifically, with what engine?
Legend ... which one specifically, with which engine? I know the Legend V6 3.5L naturally aspirated, ideal for LPG, but they are until 2012 only...

More than that new junk

Only the Legend has permanent 4x4 with electronic distribution and complicated differentials - that can be expensive to maintain...

For example, Volvo S80 AWD also have something like this.

Only in Volvo it is repaired quite efficiently. and you keep going.

I was interested in such a Volvo S80 4x4 as above. Am I to understand that the Volvo drive is relatively simple (and cheap for a luxury car, of course?) to service? And the similar one in Legend is much more complicated and therefore expensive?

First of all, there is a lot of it on the roads. Legend-and I don't know one piece I've seen recently ... visually I don't know 2010 maybe later but terribly rotten everywhere. Even on the door handle. Just remember that the S80 is currently a Mondeo.

paszczakq wrote:

First of all, there is a lot of it on the roads. Legend-and I don't know one piece I've seen recently

Well, that would be an argument for buying a legend for me. Volvo used to have serious problems with the 4 wheel drives, there were some repetitive failures, but I don't know the details.
Honda (acura) SH-AW drives are one of the best designs, but if something fails, the prices are cosmic, it's best to download from overseas, the prices are bearable there.

The handles were a factory defect in the Legend. Only

bevel gear mostly .normal for repair.

BMW F10, if you buy from the states with an old N52 engine, gas will easily come to it :]

I wrote above that BMW is out...

Besides, I now have an E61 with an N52 engine ... it was never good when it comes to the engine, constant problems, etc. I will only add that the engine was run in from the beginning and it is not easy and not cheap to put it in order then.

It's not a good old M54... but we're getting away from the point: - BMW/Audi/Merc are out

tida1 wrote:

I wrote above that BMW is out...

Besides, I now have an E61 with an N52 engine ... it was never good when it comes to the engine, constant problems, etc. I will only add that the engine was run in from the beginning and it is not easy and not cheap to put it in order then.

This is not a good old M54 ... but we are moving away from the merits: - BMW / Audi / Merc are out

Ok, I understand, I didn't read it. I just recommended it because the n52 engines from the states were a little better than ours, because there, due to the sulphur fuel, they built more durable structures, and not what we have in Europe