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Comparing Note 9 Smartphone Prices on Allegro: Understanding Cost Variations

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  • #1 17720164
    music
    Level 28  
    Hello

    I'm about to buy a new phone. It will be Note 9. I looked at several offers on Allegro and I have this question. Why such a big difference in the price of the same new phone? You can buy it for 3799, but also for 3079, 3499. As probably everyone, I care about the lowest price. Where is the catch with these much cheaper phones?
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    #2 17720183
    Michal_WWL
    Level 26  
    Feel the exact description of the auction. It can be a foreign version from a private import, a post-exhibition version, turned on once to check ... there are many possibilities.
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    #3 17720193
    karolark
    Level 42  
    The basis whether it is fv or vat margin
    the latter indicates secondary circulation
    In general, I'm distrustful and I certainly wouldn't buy online - unless it's a personal collection.
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    #4 17720196
    leonov
    Level 43  
    It can also be refurbished ;-) sold as new ;-)
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    #5 17720209
    tino2003
    Admin of GSM Group
    Provide specific links and we'll try to suggest something.
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    #6 17720271
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    I bought the third phone from Allegro, but as my colleagues write: you have to carefully read the offer and look for a store. I also had a criterion that the store had to be within 200 km, so that in case of problems you could drive there. I was looking for stores that bring phones in "containers" :-) The price is slightly higher than from China, and yet more reliable, safer transport and easier to file a complaint.
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    #8 17720343
    tino2003
    Admin of GSM Group
    Both offer seems fair and I would buy it.
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    #11 17720377
    karolark
    Level 42  
    Most likely a pawn shop
  • #12 17720388
    tino2003
    Admin of GSM Group
    music wrote:
    Exactly. And what's with this phone?


    This is also fine as long as the seller attaches the receipt or the original purchase invoice. Otherwise, there may be a problem with a possible warranty.
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    #13 17720452
    leonov
    Level 43  
    tino2003 wrote:
    or original purchase invoice
    Worse than an invoice from a T-mobile or Orange salon ;-) and someone who bought it stops paying the installments, then the operator will block the phone. Although in the auction description, it is "100% new and original, from official European distribution".
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    #14 17720463
    tino2003
    Admin of GSM Group
    Therefore, people who are looking for something cheaper are good that they ask here and do not buy in emotions and then zonk.
    We live in times where there is a catch at every turn.
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    #15 17720533
    blahfff
    Level 41  
    leonov wrote:
    tino2003 wrote:
    or original purchase invoice
    Worse than an invoice from a T-mobile or Orange salon ;-)


    T-Mobile or Plus. Orange and Play do not use such tricks so far.
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    #17 17720812
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    @music The offer 7501281391 is from x-kom, and this is a powerful seller on the Polish market. I recently bought a Kindle from them myself, but I did it in a showroom in my city. Maybe they have an outlet somewhere in your city. You will not risk damage by the courier.
  • #18 17722065
    music
    Level 28  
    freebsd wrote:
    @music The offer 7501281391 is from x-kom, and this is a powerful seller on the Polish market. I recently bought a Kindle from them myself, but I did it in a showroom in my city. Maybe they have an outlet somewhere in your city. You will not risk damage by the courier.


    Yes. I know X-Kom is a big seller. However, they have one of the higher prices for this phone model. I was specifically interested in why smaller sellers have lower prices and where is the catch.
    For now, thank you all for your comments. I more or less know where I stand.
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    #19 17723032
    pepecool
    Level 14  
    Dear forum users, the system is simple.

    Large stores issue 23% VAT invoices, sell goods from Polish distribution, have stores in larger cities throughout Poland. The price is high, because you have to feed the corporation, marketing, etc.

    When it comes to commissions, they usually sell on the margin procedure (VAT-margin). A telephone purchased from an individual customer under a purchase and sale agreement or commission agreement, and then resold. An individual customer usually has such a phone call from the operator (Play, Oragne, T-Mobile, Plus), or from abroad also from the operator. Market price.

    Pawnshops accept goods as collateral (loan) for 30-60% of the market value from the same customer as the second-hand shop. In my opinion, someone who "gives back" goods for less than 50% is by definition and experience more suspicious and such a purchase is burdened with a greater risk.

    P.S
    As the previous speakers have already written
    Plus and T-mobile block phones if their original owner does not pay the bills (subscription/installments) for the equipment.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the significant price variations for the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 on Allegro, with prices ranging from 3079 to 3799. Users highlight several factors contributing to these discrepancies, including the possibility of foreign imports, refurbished models being sold as new, and the nature of the seller (individual vs. established stores). Concerns are raised about warranty issues and the risk of purchasing from less reputable sources, such as pawn shops or sellers without proper invoices. It is noted that larger retailers typically charge higher prices due to VAT and operational costs, while smaller sellers may offer lower prices through margin sales or second-hand goods. Users are advised to carefully read auction descriptions and consider the seller's reputation before making a purchase.

FAQ

TL;DR: On Allegro, price gaps often come from 23% VAT vs VAT‑margin, distribution source, or pawn/commission stock; "Large stores issue 23% VAT invoices." Use invoice type and origin to spot risk. [Elektroda, pepecool, post #17723032]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps Allegro shoppers compare Note 9 or similar smartphone listings and avoid blocked or unwarranted devices.

Quick Facts

Why do new Galaxy Note 9 prices on Allegro vary so much?

Prices diverge because of tax and sourcing. Big retailers add 23% VAT and sell Polish‑distribution stock. Commission and second‑hand sellers use VAT‑margin, often reselling operator‑sourced or foreign devices. Pawnshops liquidate collateral cheaply, pushing prices down but risk up. “Large stores issue 23% VAT invoices.” [Elektroda, pepecool, post #17723032]

What does “VAT‑margin” mean on a phone listing?

VAT‑margin signals secondary circulation. The seller resells a device previously owned, so you won’t get a standard VAT invoice. Expect atypical provenance and check documents carefully. Some buyers avoid such listings or insist on personal collection to inspect the phone. [Elektroda, karolark, post #17720193]

Are foreign or post‑exhibition Note 9 units okay to buy on Allegro?

Yes, but read the listing closely. Cheaper “new” units may be a foreign version from private import, a post‑exhibition sample, or opened once to check. The listing description should disclose this. If unclear, message the seller before buying. “There are many possibilities.” [Elektroda, Michal_WWL, post #17720183]

Could a “new” phone actually be refurbished?

It happens. Some sellers present refurbished devices as new. Ask directly about refurbishment, and proceed only if the seller confirms factory‑sealed stock. [Elektroda, leonov, post #17720196]

What paperwork should I demand to secure warranty service?

Ask the seller to include the receipt or the original purchase invoice. Without one of these, warranty claims can be refused or complicated. Keep the document with your order confirmation. [Elektroda, tino2003, post #17720388]

Can a phone be blocked later even if I have an invoice?

Yes. If the device came from an operator installment plan and the original buyer stops paying, the operator can block it later. This risk applies even when you hold a salon invoice. As warned, “the operator will block the phone.” [Elektroda, leonov, post #17720452]

Do Orange or Play block phones for unpaid installments?

Thread experience indicates T‑Mobile and Plus do. Orange and Play were not using such blocks at the time reported. Always verify current practices before buying. [Elektroda, blahfff, post #17720533]

Is paying more for a seller like x‑kom worth it?

Often yes. x‑kom is an established seller with physical showrooms. Buying in‑store avoids courier damage risk and can simplify support. If there’s a nearby showroom, consider local pickup. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #17720812]

How do I quickly vet an Allegro listing to avoid traps?

  1. Check invoice type: 23% VAT (retail, Polish distribution) versus VAT‑margin (secondary market).
  2. Confirm origin: Polish distribution versus operator or foreign source; ask what the warranty is based on.
  3. Challenge unrealistic prices: pawn/commission stock comes from collateral valued at 30–60%, so risk rises with discount. [Elektroda, pepecool, post #17723032]

Is local pickup better than courier delivery?

Local pickup reduces damage risk and eases complaints. One buyer chose stores within about 200 km to allow in‑person support. Bulk‑importing stores charged slightly more than China sellers, but offered more reliable logistics. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #17720271]

What’s the catch with ultra‑cheap listings?

Deep discounts often trace to commission or pawn sources. Pawnshops loan at roughly 30–60% of market value, so resales appear cheap but carry more risk. Devices tied to operator contracts can also face later blocking if bills go unpaid. [Elektroda, pepecool, post #17723032]

If a listing looks legit, should I still worry?

If the description is clear and the seller is established, proceeding can be reasonable. A forum member assessed two Note 9 listings and said, “both offer seems fair and I would buy it.” [Elektroda, tino2003, post #17720343]

Is personal collection safer than buying online?

Many buyers prefer personal collection to inspect the phone and documents on the spot. One participant wouldn’t buy online unless pickup was in person. [Elektroda, karolark, post #17720193]

Should I post my candidate Allegro links for feedback?

Yes. Sharing specific links lets others spot risks in the description or seller profile. “Provide specific links and we’ll try to suggest something.” [Elektroda, tino2003, post #17720209]
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