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Technics RS M 235 X: Recording Audio from Computer to Cassette Tape

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  • #31 10666239
    dexiu89
    Level 11  
    I record cassettes with the Panasonic SA-AK17 turret and the effects are good. You only need to wipe the heads from time to time so that the music is not muffled, especially in the high tones.

    I shouldn't write on this topic, but for some time in both pockets on some cassettes something happens during playback that the tape slips off the roller that presses against the needle. This happens at the beginning of the cassette and causes it to grind, crumple it from the edge. Rewinding the entire tape does not help. In critical cases, I unscrew the screws and transfer the spools with the tape to another cassette. Only when played back, the sound quality drops. It does not happen with Sony cassettes, mostly with TDK and some older ones. There is no vibration of the music and no slowdowns in playback / recording, even though the tape recorder in this belief played more often than the CD, which no longer reads any discs. I have had this tower since 1998.
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  • #32 11246687
    zofia.janysz
    Level 2  
    zofia. I read about the possibility of recording from a computer to a tape recorder. I followed the vanaxis advice, unfortunately. I am an old lady and despite numerous attempts, no results. The cable is exactly the same. I connected to different sockets. Please help me. I would like to point out that I had a folder recorded and I wanted to record it on a cassette. It was supposed to be a gift for my sister
  • #33 11248824
    dexiu89
    Level 11  
    I will be happy to help, because soon I will record another cassette from the computer myself. If the computer with the stereo system is connected correctly and the volume is adjusted, stripes with sound colors (low tones, high tones) will start to appear while playing the sound. Then we know that everything is fine.

    You need a cable that has a headphone end on one end, this plug must be connected to the sound card with the green output, which is where the speakers are connected. I would like to add that manufacturers of computer speakers color such terminals green so that you can easily connect them to the computer without searching and combining. At the other end of this cable, with which we connect the tower to the computer, there should be two ends (white and red) with a male plug. These should be connected to the tower (or other recording equipment equipped with such inputs), they are appropriately colored and described, most often AUX L and R, i.e. L channel - left and R - right, we have a stereo signal. Of course, the tower must be in the AUX position so that the music is heard through the speakers.

    Second issue - strengthening. First of all, you should use the DirectSound driver, which prevents audio distortion (every computer has it). I use Winamp, I set the volume to 100% in it. Then I go to the volume control (right mouse button pressing the loudspeaker next to the clock) and in my case I set the first two controls on the right to the top (master volume and wave) and, above all, turn off all equalizers, because the external device sees the bass boost as level zero and the vocal is recorded quietly, you have to set it to the flat position or turn it off (the tower itself will play it according to its own settings when playing recorded music).

    So much for the hardware. As you know, your collections often do not have the same volume and you have to turn it down once and make it louder. This is the fault of the lack of normalization of the volume level of each song. There are a number of plugins to improve this when playing back on a computer. People then ask me that one MP3 is quieter and the other is louder.

    And the final point. I'm not doing anything sloppy. Commonly available blank cassettes have 60 and 90 minutes of recording time (30 and 45 minutes per side), so after arranging the list of songs ready for recording for cassette, we need to look at the timer for how long these songs take up. For example, the C-60 cassette on both sides can hold 30 minutes of music, so that the last song is not cut, you need to arrange them so that the time counter does not exceed 30 minutes for one side - then there will be no cut song. Similarly with C-90 cassettes. If any issue is incomprehensible, feel free to write and I will explain otherwise. PS. What's your sister's name?
  • #34 11259882
    zofia.janysz
    Level 2  
    Sophia. Thanks a lot dexiu89 for explaining the topic. I already know where I was making a mistake. I connected the solo plug to the computer and it should be the other way around, but I do not know how to connect two plugs to the tape recorder in this situation? Does it have to be a tower? I have an ordinary CD player + portable tape recorder. I suppose you can't record on this? I am waiting for your reply and thank you in advance for it. My sister's name is Jadzia. greetings
  • #35 11269665
    dexiu89
    Level 11  
    You can do it with such a device. First you have to record songs from your computer to a blank CD and then record them onto a cassette. I would like to emphasize that it is mediated by recording to a CD and each processing of the material is against the quality (noticeable to me), so it is best to record onto tape from the most originally available source. For example, it can be music from the radio or material from TV. It is known that mp3s are not the primary source.

    Personally, I have not come across a CD radio with RCA inputs, i.e. chinch (female inputs). Even if it is the quality of the recorded material on the cassette, it will be average. Hi-Fi towers are the best at this.
  • #36 13010082
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    Hello and welcome!
    Most often I record from a computer onto a reel-to-reel tape recorder.
    For this he gives a sound from my laptop to the reel.
    Then the sound went from the desktop computer to the mixer, and then to the reel. Unfortunately, these sound cards compress the sound very much.
    Live 5.1 is the most compressed, followed by Audigy.
    For me, the best dynamics is provided by the built-in laptop card.
    The soundtrack is standing in the city.
    Similarly, from time to time I also record on a cassette player, if it is necessary to record on chrome cassettes - I only use a stationary cassette player.
    And when you need to record to regular cassettes, I often rip MP3s to pendrives and
    from a pendrive to a cassette box boxing boom.
    I recommend that when there is a tower or a tape recorder with a USB input, it is better to rip from a USB to a tape than to rip from a computer to a tape recorder using a cable.
    Then the recording will be of better quality.
    But when this is not possible, I advise you to act like this.
    1) Make the sound on your computer to the maximum.
    2) On a tower or a tape recorder, the final amplifier slider (if there is a built-in amplifier) should be kept to a minimum.
    3) Connect the cable from the computer output to the tape recorder input.
    4) Adjust the recording level so that for short moments it is not more than 1 dB from zero. On the towers and radio tape recorders the level is done automatically.
    And we can safely record. Only a new cassette is needed.
    Old crumpled cassettes are not suitable for good recordings.
    I do not advise you to buy cheap Chinese cables to connect your computer to the tape recorder.
    It's best to buy professional at a music store.
    Before recording, you should clean the heads with alcohol, then the quality of the recording is guaranteed.

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    dexiu89 wrote:
    You can do it with such a device. First you have to record songs from your computer to a blank CD and then record them onto a cassette. I would like to emphasize that it is mediated by recording to a CD and each processing of the material is against the quality (noticeable to me), so it is best to record onto tape from the most originally available source. For example, it can be music from the radio or material from TV. It is known that mp3s are not the primary source.

    Personally, I have not come across a CD radio with RCA inputs, i.e. chinch (female inputs). Even if it is the quality of the recorded material on the cassette, it will be average. Hi-Fi towers are the best at this.


    There are Panasonic RX-D55 recorders with CD and USB and the cassette is there, the input is called "Music port".
    Here you can even connect a vinyl record player and listen to or record on cassettes from any source.
    Even here there are 2 input sensitivity functions (when the weak signal is up to 100 mV, and when the strong signal is standard from 200 mV to 1.5V).

    Added after 24 [minutes]:

    dexiu89 wrote:
    I shouldn't write on this topic, but for some time in both pockets on some cassettes something happens during playback that the tape slips off the roller that presses against the needle. This happens at the beginning of the cassette and causes it to grind, crumple it from the edge. Rewinding the entire tape does not help. In critical cases, I unscrew the screws and transfer the spools with the tape to another cassette. Only when played back, the sound quality drops. This does not happen with Sony cassettes, mostly with TDK and some older ones. There is no vibration of the music and no slowdowns in playback / recording, even though the tape recorder in this belief played more often than the CD, which no longer reads any discs. I have had this tower since 1998.


    The problem is that there is a bearing in which the needle spins and changing the roller sometimes helps, but most often not too long.
    And one more problem is that the owners of tape recorders do not do the service.
    From time to time, it is necessary to put a small drop of machine oil onto the bearing.
    Only you should not pour the strips, rollers - the rubber spoils from the oil.
    If the oil is on a roll or a needle, remove it with a cotton ball.
    In the cassette deck, you take a small droplet on the matches and put it on the bearing.
    In your case, you can see that you can try to replace the rollers.
    In mechanics, the bearing is very difficult to replace.
    That it is boiled in plastic.
    Most often you have to do replacements of the entire mechanic block in each pocket.
    This is an expensive matter, but worth it, because now only cheap turrets or CD-based cassette players are available for sale.
    From the stationary ones, they are now only Chinese for $ 100, I do not recommend buying them, it is not known if they will be playing for a long time.
    A normal Taskam cassette is available only after a special order and costs from PLN 4,000.
  • #37 13014478
    dexiu89
    Level 11  
    The tower went to the site. Leaving her, the guest said that they do not produce good-quality equipment that would withstand that much. A tape recorder is a good thing in this, because in this type the cassette is played at normal speed, and not 1/3 faster, as in many tape recorders, so that the original cassette on which the track normally lasts 3 minutes, on the cheaper ones it lasts 2:50.

    I remember Laser Music cassettes. The sound quality was excellent, better than the CD. After ripping even to WAV format, the music was no longer of great quality, so you should take care of cassettes, cassettes or VHS. To this day, he does not part with these carriers because they are less unreliable than digital ones.

    Everyone has their own way of recording on cassette. I described mine above and with the iron cassettes I amplify and compress the dynamics of the treble more than with the chrome ones, sometimes using emphasis. It depends on what profile I choose.
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  • #38 13063876
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    dexiu89 wrote:
    The tower went to the site. Leaving her, the guest said that they do not produce good-quality equipment that would withstand that much. A tape recorder is a good thing in this, because in this type the cassette is played at normal speed, and not 1/3 faster, as in many tape recorders, so that the original cassette on which the track normally lasts 3 minutes, on the cheaper ones it lasts 2:50.

    I remember Laser Music cassettes. The sound quality was excellent, better than the CD. After ripping even to WAV format, the music was no longer of great quality, so you should take care of cassettes, cassettes or VHS. To this day, he does not part with these carriers because they are less unreliable than digital ones.

    Everyone has their own way of recording on cassette. I described mine above and with the iron cassettes I amplify and compress the dynamics of the treble more than with the chrome ones, sometimes using emphasis. It depends on what profile I choose.

    As for the cassettes, the best for me were the "Gold star" cassettes (now LG).
    Now they are hard to buy for obvious reasons.
    I am very interested in the difference between the quality of the Basf "Chrome super" and "Chrome maxima" cassettes. The "Chrome super" cassette works well in the Soviet "Majak 240" tape recorders. I wonder if for the "Chrome Maxima" cassette you need to additionally adjust the tape recorder?
    Unfortunately, not every old tape recorder supported the "Metal" type, there were just two "Normal" and "Chrome" gudzikas in Soviet tape recorders.
  • #39 13063992
    abrak_adabra
    Level 14  
    zofia.janysz, you could just give the model of this "bomb" but the only way out is what you already got, record an audio CD * ordinary nero can, and then use the bombox itself to record it on a cassette - just turn on recording during playback, but such equipment they record / lose in very poor quality.

    Vitaly, these names are a slogan, it's better to follow TYPE, the types of cassettes are exactly described on Wikipedia.
    http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaseta_magnetofonowa
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  • #40 13064225
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    Vitaly, these names are a slogan, it's better to follow TYPE, the types of cassettes are exactly described on Wikipedia.
    http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaseta_magnetofonowa[/quote]

    Unfortunately, there is no description of the difference of these types.
    And for me, I need information from an experienced professional who worked on these tapes himself in the old days.
  • #41 13218154
    mar564
    Level 10  
    Hello. Should the dolby no. System be turned on or off when recording?
  • #42 13221309
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    mar564 wrote:
    Hello. Should the dolby no. System be turned on or off when recording?

    Unnecessary.
    That dolby is used when recording from cassette or blaming when needed in noise suppression.
    But if the mp3 quality is low (approx. 96 - 128 kbs) and has great quantization noise
    then the dolby system can help a bit.
  • #43 13280162
    dexiu89
    Level 11  
    It also all depends on the quality of the recorded cassette. For me, mp3 128 kbps is a pain in the ears. When recording onto a cassette, I use songs in the quality of 224 and more, but before recording I reverse the stereo (vocal removal method) and check whether I can hear the so-called spilling water, i.e. stereo signal compression at high tones. These deficiencies in the sound can be heard very well by using emphasis, thanks to which I record songs on cassettes, as a result of which the output material has a better sound than recorded directly from the FM radio.
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  • #44 13284364
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    dexiu89 wrote:
    It also all depends on the quality of the recorded cassette. For me, mp3 128 kbps is a pain in the ears. When recording onto a cassette, I use songs in the quality of 224 and more, but before recording I reverse the stereo (vocal removal method) and check whether I can hear the so-called spilling water, i.e. stereo signal compression at high tones. These deficiencies in the sound can be heard very well by using emphasis, thanks to which I record songs on cassettes, as a result of which the output material has a better sound than recorded directly from the FM radio.

    I record at EMTEC TYPE I - optimal quality.
  • #45 13329567
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    For professional computer recording onto cassettes and even without a digital computer, TEAC produces new cassette decks.
    It is a combined equipment that allows you to play and record to cassettes, CD and USB - all in one module.
    Technics RS M 235 X: Recording Audio from Computer to Cassette Tape
    TEAC AD RW 900 ideal for concert halls, bands.
    Each performer can give their foundations on the medium they like :D .
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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  • #48 15896226
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    gibons1992 wrote:
    Gentlemen, I'll dig up a little topic :)

    Due to the fact that I have an original cassette radio in the car, I could use a few cassettes to listen to ...

    I need to buy some simple DECK ... what do you recommend?
    Obviously something used and cheap


    Hello!
    If you need DECK to rip from your computer to cassettes, I advise you
    used decks from DENON, Yamaha, Onkyo.
    A simple Type I cassette for a car radio. Metal and chrome
    I can't.
  • #49 15897958
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    gibons1992 wrote:
    Due to the fact that I have an original cassette radio in the car, I could use a few cassettes to listen to ...

    Is it worth buying a deck? Maybe the FM transmitter is enough?
  • #50 15905434
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    As for the transmitter - the transmitter is even better than the adapter cassette, in that the mechanics of the tape recorder wear out when using the adapter cassette. Everything is spinning and working out.
    But in my view, an ordinary cassette sounds better than a transmitter that plays MP3 music and modulates into FM waves.
    Sometimes it may be that all band is occupied in the receiver, the station is after the station and it is difficult to use your FM transmitter.
    For a true music lover, you need a good cassette deck so that you can record onto cassettes and listen to whatever you want.
  • #51 16056325
    Witalij
    Level 11  
    Hello!
    I would like to draw your attention to the fact that a lot of modern equipment with a pocket
    cassette tape do not have the recording function. They only serve as a player. They often have five cassette control keys rather than six. Next to the "Play" keys in a normal tape deck is the "Rec" key. Anyone who has a simple cassette player must have a separate cassette deck for recording.

    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    These are the typical modern cassette players:
    Technics RS M 235 X: Recording Audio from Computer to Cassette Tape Technics RS M 235 X: Recording Audio from Computer to Cassette Tape
  • #52 20762572
    tobiaszbaranowski6
    Level 3  

    Hi. It is possible to record a cassette in the Dolby NR system with the Technics M12 Stereo Cassette Deck?
    .

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around recording audio from a computer to a cassette tape using the Technics RS M 235 X tape recorder. Users suggest connecting the computer's audio output (green jack) to the tape recorder's AUX input using a Mini Jack-Cinch cable. Issues regarding sound quality during recording are addressed, with recommendations to check cable quality and sound card settings. Some participants mention the importance of using high-quality cassettes and adjusting volume levels on the computer for optimal recording results. The conversation also touches on the limitations of modern cassette players, which often lack recording capabilities, and the potential use of FM transmitters as alternatives.
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