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Car Charging & Lighting: Starting Car with Charger Connected, 16A Rectifier, Diesel Battery 60

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  • #1 5833235
    bratles
    Level 10  
    CYou can start the car with the charger connected and charging the battery. I have a 16A rectifier and the car is a diesel battery 60.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Oh, I gave enter too quickly.
    As for the question - will it not cause some confusion in the car's electric fuses etc.
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  • #2 5833257
    goldwinger
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    It's not good for a rectifier
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  • #3 5836136
    lanzul
    Level 30  
    Probably not too much.
    There are special chargers based on gel batteries for this.
    Remember about the starting currents of I = 150 A, for example: the Polonez starter has a power of 1.5 kW, with a voltage of 12 V it gives I = 125 A (easy to calculate, P = U x I).
    When it comes to emergency starting the vehicle, I suggest buying a starter battery (gel with a built-in charger).
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  • #4 5836266
    mczapski
    Level 40  
    Are you running a hypothetical car or a specific one? What are the reasons for this launch? Little problem under average conditions. But if you cause a large voltage drop in the installation, the rectifier will try to equalize it, which means it will run at full power or exceed it. And now, if the rectifier has any protection, it will work. And if not, it will be damaged after a longer load. And if the car is equipped with electronics, it may revolt due to sudden voltage changes.
  • #5 5845589
    bratles
    Level 10  
    Hello
    It's not a hypothetical car - it's a 1994 Ford 1.8d no electronics, simple. Almost always in the morning I have to crank the starter for a long time to make it click and the battery sits down. So I came up with the idea to start the car with the charger connected (Safe Rectifier Set 12V to 200Ah).
    Today I was at the mechanics to check the pressure in the cylinders and it turned out that all of them have perfect pressure, the glow plugs are ok and the injectors are also ok - so there is no fuel. But with long shooting - it lights up and the battery crashes.
  • #6 5845772
    invector
    Level 18  
    Such firing with a connected rectifier is a commonly known and used procedure. Unfortunately, it doesn't help. In this way, the starter will not spin any longer or faster and only, as colleagues wrote earlier, can damage the rectifier.
  • #7 5850336
    SklepAltera
    User under supervision
    bratles wrote:
    Hello
    It's not a hypothetical car - it's a 1994 Ford 1.8d no electronics, simple. Almost always in the morning I have to crank the starter for a long time to make it click and the battery sits down. So I came up with the idea to start the car with the charger connected (Safe Rectifier Set 12V to 200Ah).
    Today I was at the mechanics to check the pressure in the cylinders and it turned out that all of them have perfect pressure, the glow plugs are ok and the injectors are also ok - so there is no fuel. But with long shooting - it lights up and the battery crashes.



    Or there is simply no electricity - battery and accumulator to be checked.
  • #8 5911347
    lanzul
    Level 30  
    [...] ... so there is no fuel ... [...]

    If so, you must start with the fuel pump rather than the electrics ?!
  • #9 5911423
    Mr.K
    Level 24  
    bratles wrote:
    Hello
    It's not a hypothetical car - it's a 1994 Ford 1.8d no electronics, simple. Almost always in the morning I have to crank the starter for a long time to make it click and the battery sits down. So I came up with the idea to start the car with the charger connected (Safe Rectifier Set 12V to 200Ah).
    Today I was at the mechanics to check the pressure in the cylinders and it turned out that all of them have perfect pressure, the glow plugs are ok and the injectors are also ok - so there is no fuel. But with long shooting - it lights up and the battery crashes.



    It often happens when the battery is old and has lost its capacity, in order to eliminate another defect, replace it (borrow a good battery from someone) you will see it burn or buy a new battery.
  • #10 5911446
    neo_dc
    Level 32  
    Put the check valve on the fuel line - fuel should stop flowing back into the tank.
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  • #11 5911454
    enauto
    Level 29  
    Increase the weight on the engine and repair the starter, you can also manually (I think there is such a pump) pump up the fuel with the ignition on, turn the ignition off for a while and try to start again.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of starting a 1994 Ford 1.8d diesel car with a charger connected, specifically using a 16A rectifier. Concerns were raised about potential damage to the rectifier and the car's electrical system due to voltage fluctuations. While some participants noted that this method is commonly used, they cautioned that it may not effectively assist in starting the vehicle and could harm the rectifier. The author indicated that the car has no electronic systems and experiences difficulty starting, suggesting that the issue may be related to fuel delivery rather than electrical problems. Recommendations included checking the battery's condition, ensuring proper fuel flow, and considering a starter battery with a built-in charger.
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