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Hot-Swapping a SATA Drive While PC is Running: Is It Safe?

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  • #1 5885509
    SiLeNt_hUnTeR
    Level 21  
    Hello, can you do something like that?
    I read somewhere that it is possible, but I prefer to be sure. I anticipate questions like "why don't you turn off your computer"? My ATA disk is corrupted (boot problems).

    greetings
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    #2 5885539
    Sobota
    Level 26  
    SATA drives can be safely attached during operation. When it comes to PATA, I knew that you can not fasten during work, but once fastened it caused the computer to crash.

    Moderated By jankolo:

    A tip that is extremely harmful. Comment below

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  • #3 5885618
    SiLeNt_hUnTeR
    Level 21  
    Thank you very much for your help!
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  • #4 5885651
    milew
    Level 13  
    You can easily connect SATA and PATA during work. It's good to accept the principle that we connect the signal cable first, then the power cable. Reverse order when disconnecting. If there is a problem with detection, go to the device manager and refresh.
    Only the order in which the power is connected is important. Sometimes I did not want to turn off the computer, so I did.

    Moderated By jankolo:

    A tip that is extremely harmful. Comment below

  • #5 5885746
    jankolo
    Rest in Peace
    Mates Saturday and milew gave extremely harmful advice. Pat disks are not designed to be hot-swapped, and the fact that they can sometimes be done without burning the disk and the CD is by no means a reason for giving such advice. SATA drives for hot-swap connection require that this function be supported by the controller, and I doubt that the average user has such a controller in his computer.
    In short, both colleagues gave extremely harmful advice and are reprimanded for it. In the case of a colleague Saturday this is the fifth one, so my friend has finished his career on Elektroda.
  • #6 5885792
    milew
    Level 13  
    Maybe it would be worth checking for yourself before you start criticizing yourself. What is not intended for such work does not mean that it cannot be done. I have used this type of method a lot and never had any problems with it. You definitely have to be careful how you connect the power plug, but it's probably logical. The XP system is very good at unplugging and unplugging this way. A colleague writing this post noted that he has a problem with starting the disk and therefore does not turn off the computer. I believe that my advice is absolutely true and correct.
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    #7 5885863
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    First reading:
    http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_plugging

    The popular hot-swap drive known as Hot-Swap is only supported by controllers designed for it and supporting such functions. Normally, you can connect the disk in this way to a typical motherboard, but it is not safe if the controller does not support hot-swap function. Connecting to a controller without hot-swap support may work, but does not have to. Therefore, giving advice that you can not know the parameters of the controller and its possible hot-swap handling is harmful! The advice remains on the forum and in a month or a few other users will read and apply it, and thus may damage the disk. Hot-swapping PATA drives is strictly forbidden. Sata drives only work in this way if the controller supports this function. If the controller does not support hot-swap, connecting the disk may result in its permanent damage!
  • #8 5885909
    milew
    Level 13  
    However, I will engage in a polemic. HotSwap is a bit different than what we're writing about, yes, there are special software controllers for that, etc. It works unattended, pulls out, puts in and that's it.
    However, I am asking for healthy thinking. What is the difference between connecting the data cable during operation and with the equipment turned off? There is no power here and here. Only when the power supply is connected, the equipment is energized, in addition, refreshing the equipment causes its redetection. I believe that there is no such risk, except for a mistake when connecting the power supply backwards, you can always shoot a bull here.
    Anyway, for me the topic is closed, practice and theory are a bit distracting.
  • #9 5885924
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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    #10 5885977
    jankolo
    Rest in Peace
    milew wrote:
    practice and theory are a bit distracting.

    Here the colleague is right. I will illustrate it with the following example. Gasoline is a flammable liquid, but you can put out a lit match in it. It just needs to be done skillfully and in the right way. Does this lead to the conclusion that such a method of extinguishing matches can be recommended?
    To all propagators connecting live disks:
    1. In PCs, all devices are hot-swapped, but some only once;
    2. The moderators of this department believe that advising on connecting live drives without appropriate hardware solutions is extremely harmful advice and they will draw legal consequences for giving such advice.
  • #11 5886098
    mc_olo
    Level 14  
    and wouldn't it be better to invest in an external USB pocket for such drives? Theoretically, attaching such a disk is nothing more than a USB connection followed by a switch to such a disk, but the fact is that the disks were not manufactured for this purpose. Personally, I would be more concerned with moving the equipment inside the case while it is working, because a moment of inattention can cost the user a lot. To sum up: if we have the opportunity and do not have to save these five minutes, it will always be safer to turn off the computer first.
  • #12 5886517
    SiLeNt_hUnTeR
    Level 21  
    I just read my motherboard's documentation and it says hot-swap.
    Thank you for all your help, the topic can be considered closed.

Topic summary

Hot-swapping SATA drives while a PC is running is generally possible, but it requires that the motherboard's controller supports this feature. Users are advised to connect the signal cable first and the power cable second, and to refresh the device manager if the drive is not detected. However, caution is necessary, as connecting drives to controllers that do not support hot-swapping can lead to data loss or permanent damage to the drive. PATA drives should not be hot-swapped under any circumstances. It is recommended to turn off the computer before connecting or disconnecting drives to ensure safety, although some users report success with hot-swapping when done carefully. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the hardware capabilities before attempting hot-swapping.
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