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Very strange problem with electrification. I'm begging you for help.

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  • #1 6190722
    ronczka18
    Level 2  
    Hello everyone. I may have a funny problem for you, but it is terribly bothersome. This is perhaps more explainable to physicists, but I couldn't find any noteworthy physics forum, So I immediately thought of a helpful electrode (rather you, electrode users). I will move on to the topic. Let me start with the fact that I live in an 11-story building which may explain a few things. For a month or so, something has been electrifying, as soon as I touch the door handle or something metal, it kicks me (it even happened once that a glass lampshade or even a curtain kicked me). Somehow, not long before the electrification began, the neighbors in my riser were doing a renovation and they were probably messing with the radiator from the central heating (it was audible as if they were grinding the radiator with a grinder and banging on the CO pipes) I thought maybe some mass (or grounding I do not know) on this) they connected to the radiator and I have scratched bare metal in several places, maybe this is the reason, but I do not know how to check it, I have a broken contact next to the radiator (so that it is without a housing and the plates in which the plug is inserted stick out) which is already this has been the case for over 6 months. Matula tells me that from sitting at the computer she actually sits a lot in front of the computer for several hours (5 sometimes even 12) but she works on the computer and I have been sitting with it for several years. I note that my mother does not copy or other household members because only I spend a lot of time in the room, others max 2-3 hours. I am begging you, help me, what can this be happening? It may be funny for you, but it is very troublesome and sometimes painful until your fingers go numb.

    Very strange problem with electrification. I'm begging you for help.
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  • #2 6190736
    elektryk
    Level 42  
    I have such days depending on:
    1.What I am going to wear, I noticed that in some places (e.g. artificial carpet at work) some of my sweaters or sweatshirts are terribly electrifying.
    2. from what and when the cleaning lady at my place cleans the floor from the panels, then the entire floor complains that everything is "kicked" by them.
  • #3 6190747
    ronczka18
    Level 2  
    I also have floor panels. But my friend, only me and my girlfriend who stays in my room a lot, other household members and my friends who come to visit me do not have this problem with me. I would like to emphasize that since it started there is not even a 1 day break.
  • #4 6191004
    ghost666
    Translator, editor
    Think about when it started and think if and what changed then. If it is a neighbors renovation, measure the voltage on the radiator (against the ground in the socket or against the N wire).
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  • #5 6191026
    Kucek93
    Level 11  
    You are not alone!!!

    I live in a single-family building, where in the bathroom, after heating the water in the boiler, taps from the water "kick": / (I do not know if this is caused by this)
    My parents, however, don't share my opinion, so I found nothing to do with it ... it doesn't bother me that much.
    Directly through the skin there is a slight tingling sensation, but when you touch it with some scratch, breach of the epidermis ... it is painful.

    If I come up with something ... try to help!
  • #6 6191040
    submariner
    Level 32  
    maybe the humidifier will do the trick, sure our air is too dry.
  • #7 6192255
    MarekzRz
    Level 17  
    You are like a capacitor, the more you isolate yourself, the more you get charged and then you shoot sparks, unfortunately, but everything that surrounds you can affect you - dry air, new slippers, a faux wool sweater or a TV set on. It only remains to ground.
    Kucek93; The taps in the bathroom can kick (once), but they should not tingle something you have wrong with the installation
  • #8 6192337
    niutat
    Level 36  
    Hello, there are special rinsing liquids for fabrics that eliminate static electricity, maybe try it.
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  • #9 6193756
    zubel
    Conditionally unlocked
    Hello
    The air in your apartment is too dry. Recently, we have quite significant negative temperatures and reduced air humidity in Poland, and this is probably the cause of your troubles. Antistatic fluids will partially do the trick, but spring will do better. Put a wet towel on the radiator, it should solve the problem
  • #10 6193809
    MarekzRz
    Level 17  
    First of all, do something with this contact because you will dream at night and this is worse than digging
  • #11 6199845
    rema
    Level 27  
    Hello. Maybe I will write something too. I met the antistatic liquid in the atomiser, maybe it will help something - until spring. I had such a problem with the car and I messed up the interior and the problem was gone. Maybe it will also work in the apartment. Best regards.
  • #12 6208291
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 15059855
    symforian
    Level 12  
    I know, I have dug up the old cutlet, but I have a new installation in a newly built house, I am an electrician myself, I put the installation myself, so everything is fine. I changed my slippers, I try to dress non-synthetically and nothing. Whenever I turn on the RTV equipment, a tiny screwdriver is lying on the table, which is used to discharge me. Only then do I turn on all the equipment. What can I do with it? I go to the RTV equipment and it hits like hell. but, oddly enough, only from late fall to spring. it is quiet in summer. And it only pounds me, not other household members.
  • #14 15062415
    pawelradomsko
    Automation specialist
    So when the heating in the house is working and the humidity is lower, there may be some kind of clothing (fleece or other sweater) and perhaps a different skin resistance.
    This is how it occurs to my mind that someone with wet skin will release static charges more easily even with reduced air humidity, and someone with dry skin may feel the discomfort of small shocks.
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  • #15 15062443
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    ronczka18 wrote:
    But my friend, only me and my girlfriend who stays in my room a lot, other household members and my friends who come to visit me do not have this problem with me.

    A simple test - look at what you and the Girl are wearing and what other household members and colleagues are wearing. To be sure, walk around the apartment for a few days in pure cotton. If he stops digging - change the outfit to a less electrifying one. :|
  • #16 15062479
    tomek_602
    Level 22  
    "... I'm an electrician myself ..."
    "Well, it only hits me, not other household members."

    And supposedly "electrician, electricity is not ticking"?

    It so happens that some people have drier skin than others. He will stick such a hand into the live circuit and tickle him, and he would shock another. On the other hand, static charges do not spread over it and it sprinkles sparks.

    If there are carpets in the room, I would try to treat them with an antistatic liquid.
  • #17 15062489
    nawracająca zgaga
    Level 20  
    Wash your cocolino panties and stop electrocuting. I wash my dresses like that. However, I am surprised at what they teach in schools now, there is nothing about static electricity?
  • #18 15064567
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    nawracająca zgaga wrote:
    Wash your cocolino panties and stop electrocuting. I wash my dresses like that. However, I am surprised at what they teach in schools now, there is nothing about static electricity?


    In my time, the physics lady explained it to us visually. She set the electrostatic machine on the desk, hooked it up to a Leyden bottle, and had the whole class grab their hands. And then she spun the machine and told the two "extreme" - "touch these two balls." A second later, the entire class knew what static electricity was. :D
  • #19 15066882
    0ceanborn
    Level 25  
    Your colleagues have already written a lot of advice on the causes and possible preventive measures.
    However, I was interested in the genesis of this phenomenon:
    ronczka18 wrote:
    Somehow, not long before the electrification began, the neighbors in my riser were doing a renovation and they were probably messing with the radiator from the central heating (it was audible as if they were grinding the radiator with a grinder and banging on the CO pipes) I thought maybe some mass (or grounding I do not know) on this) they connected to the radiator and I have scratched bare metal in several places, maybe this is the reason, but I do not know how to check it, I have a broken contact next to the radiator (so that it is without a housing and the plates in which the plug is inserted stick out) which is already this has been the case for over 6 months.

    In my opinion, this was not the case before, because the central heating installation in the block played the role of grounding and prevented the accumulation of charges. Today there is a tendency to replace metal pipes, e.g. in CO - plastic ones and they no longer provide effective grounding. Probably during the renovation, where possible, the pipes were replaced with plastic ones.
  • #20 17074633
    cbserwis
    Level 12  
    I have the same problem ... I'm an electronics engineer, so I can explain some phenomena to myself.
    The previous speakers claiming that the central heating or water installation is the responsible mistake.
    These installations, if they are metal, have a keyed connection in the building, so they are at the ground potential. In addition, these installations would not be selectively irritating, all household members would have a problem, and in the described cases this is usually not the case.
    The reason for the flashover is the person who electrifies himself and is at a higher potential in relation to the potential of the earth.
    The electrification is favored by clothes made of fleece and wool, synthetic blankets, dry air and dry human skin.
    To reduce electrostatics, avoid certain materials, moisten the air in the apartment (CO dries it up a lot), lubricate the whole body with moisturizing ointments, drink plenty of fluids.
    A separate problem may be the electrostatics of the car, because it, depending on the conditions, may be at a potential lower or higher than ours, e.g. after driving in dry air, it may have a potential higher than ours. To discharge electrostatic charges from the car body, special electrically conductive strips are used, which are mounted so that they are in contact with the ground. Such a strip carries the charges that accumulate on the car body to the ground.

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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a persistent issue of electrostatic shocks experienced by a user living in an 11-story building. The problem began after nearby renovations, possibly affecting the grounding of the central heating system. Various contributors shared their experiences and suggested potential causes and solutions, including dry air, specific clothing materials (like fleece and wool), and the use of antistatic sprays. Recommendations included using humidifiers, grounding techniques, and changing footwear to reduce static buildup. The conversation highlighted the role of environmental factors, such as humidity and material conductivity, in exacerbating static electricity issues.
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