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How to Safely Insulate and Cover a 220V Outlet Box After Socket Removal?

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  • #1 6325262
    Luc2000
    Level 10  
    Hello
    I apologize in advance if I did not find the topic in the appropriate forum
    if so, please transfer to the appropriate one.
    I have an outlet in the wall that I want to close
    but through this outlet the electricity goes to other sockets
    So connect the cube wires
    and now the question is what to do next with this cube
    how to close such an opening so that there is full insulation?
    just plaster? or maybe some special foam first
    and only plaster + gladz?
    many thanks for your help!
    greetings
    luc
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  • #2 6325313
    owenpe
    Level 17  
    If you have an ankle like this, I would not close it permanently, I would just do the can there :)
  • #3 6325373
    Luc2000
    Level 10  
    the socket is in a visible place (that's why I remove it)
    So the can as such is out of the question
    I don't want to have a round outline for paint instead of a socket
    that's why I was thinking about a possible socket box some insulating foam and only a little plaster and paint over it
    so that in the future with a single hammer blow if necessary
    reveal the hole again
    possibly a lid, perhaps made of wood and plastic, fits well
    into the hole and then only plaster and paint?
    Immediately plaster on the ankle, it is probably not appropriate to clap it, right?
    greetings
    luc
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  • #4 6325410
    fortronik
    Admin of Medical Equipment
    Luc2000 wrote:
    ... or maybe a lid, maybe made of wood and plastic, well suited to the hole and only then with plaster and paint? luc


    I think it is a much better solution. You will always be able to get there if you need to. Sometimes, at the connection points on the ankles, the wires like to get burned

    Luc2000 wrote:
    Immediately plaster on the ankle, it is probably not appropriate to clap it, right?

    It would be a very poor solution

    greetings
  • #5 6325454
    zubel
    Conditionally unlocked
    Twist the wires about two centimeters long. Put heat-shrinkable sleeves on the wires and fill the whole thing with gypsum, but do not leave a cavity, say two millimeters, and complete it with cement. Only before this operation you have to pull out this installation box. After painting, there will be no trace of the socket
  • #7 6325663
    kolu$
    Level 17  
    Ordinary cans with a plastic lid can also be masked so that they are not visible. the lid must simply go a little deeper into the wall, so that it is covered with a 2-3 mm layer of plaster. In the event of a breakdown, you do not need to choke much, and the can can be easily found by tapping on the wall.
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  • #8 6325967
    zubel
    Conditionally unlocked
    You can leave it as it is now and hang a picture
  • #9 6325996
    michcio
    Electrician specialist
    And just out of curiosity, where is this outlet that you want to get rid of? Under the ceiling or what?
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  • #10 6326013
    Micoss
    Level 17  
    As mentioned above with heat shrink, or use self-amalgamating tape if you don't want to give a can
  • #11 6326078
    Luc2000
    Level 10  
    no, no cans fall off
    especially that big square socket
    I don't care about recovering this socket some time
    mosaic in a few years, but that's when I'll be worried
    a necessary condition is that there is no trace of the paint
    and that the galvanic connection is safe and well insulated
    the socket is normally 10 cm above the baseboard
    and in a theoretically convenient place on the front wall of a large room
    but now I hung a large plasma there - I put all the wires nicely into the wall, it generally looks like a picture now
    and I do not care about this nicely made wall under the TV itself
    the socket was scary and eye-catching (the more that the wall is painted deep green (the socket in the same color as the wall is also not included - it looks terrible)

    Before a friend writes his next post - please correct your previous ones! Regulations p. 15.
    Post written "with this technique" is very incomprehensible.

    [Akrzy]


    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    Sorry. How to improve previous posts?
  • #12 6326241
    ajpier
    Level 36  
    In the top right corner of every post you have a badge like "change".
    By the way, first you painted the wall and now you are liquidating the socket, if it seems to me.
  • #13 6326274
    Luc2000
    Level 10  
    Ok - I will try to take care of the form of speech.

    You understood very well; at first I did not pay attention to them,
    but now it spoils the final effect for me. Like a trifle but important ...
  • #14 6326316
    unemake
    Level 16  
    You can use the PS60 signaling cover made of SIMET, adapted to be covered with plaster. After sanding the wall, it should be invisible and, if necessary, it should be easy to find.
  • #15 6327193
    zubel
    Conditionally unlocked
    A colleague himself does not know exactly what he is talking about. If he starts with painting and then wants to make changes, let him change the way of thinking and close this topic
  • #16 6327195
    robert_sz
    Level 16  
    The first priority is to ensure good contact of the connected wires and isolate this connection from the influence of moisture.
    If you do it right, searching and breaking the can will not be needed for ... teen years.

    If the length of the wires allows it, twist them together with a connecting block (such as for a chandelier), but put the wires to it overlapped on both sides and then tightly twist. If the cables are short, make the connection using tubular terminals (ERGOM), but without a crimping tool you will not do it properly.

    Either self-vulcanizing tapes or heat-shrinkable sleeves with adhesive inside protect against moisture.

    Do not use any foam, mineral wool and gypsum on it are better. The wool is easy to remove and is non-flammable. You won't scratch the foam that easily.
    You can also cover the connection itself with a can with a lid so that you can find it after many years.
    After plastering, draw a small mark on the wall with a pencil so that you don't think to drill in this place :)

    Twisting the wires and soldering the "twisted pair" is the best method, but only if you know how to do it.
    Otherwise you will bend / crush / break the cable and, under the influence of temperature, it will get hot in this place.
  • #17 6327981
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Luc2000 wrote:

    I have an outlet in the wall that I want to close
    but through this outlet the electricity goes to other sockets


    all hints are wrong.
    We remove the socket together with the replacement of the cables that came to it. That is, we disassemble these sections of wires and put them in this place full (not divided, not joined) which will replace the existing ones.
    The whole can be covered with plaster, plaster and all the rest "behind".

    PS. People! A bit of seriousness! plasma on the wall, and you suggest installation on a string from a binder ...
  • #18 6329296
    fantasta
    Level 29  
    Well, but also without exaggeration. Now make the man squat everything. Nowhere is it written that you need to replace entire episodes. You have to do it according to the art and that's it.

    Either a good bolted connection, or soldered and insulated as desired.
  • #19 6330198
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Luc2000 wrote:
    no no cans fall off
    especially that big square socket
    I don't care about recovering this socket some time
    mosaic in a few years, but that's when I'll be worried
    a necessary condition is that there is no trace of the paint
    and that the galvanic connection is safe and well insulated


    Nothing comes off, buddy. The box is simply necessary here to shield the connection. A combination that tends to be damaged.
    The trick to fulfill your necessary condition is to push the can half a centimeter deeper and tighten the lid with plaster. Zero traces. Contrary to appearances, you can start worrying much earlier, if, for example, you get hot or break the cable and your fatal plasma stops working.
    Another option, apart from the box, is to solder the wires and cover them with a heat-shrinkable jacket, but this requires a bit of practice and attention. But you still have to cover such a connection with the can.
  • #20 6330503
    Luc2000
    Level 10  
    [/ quote] Another option, apart from the box, is to solder the wires and cover them with a heat-shrinkable sleeve, but this requires a bit of practice and attention. But you still have to cover such a connection with a tin. [/ Quote]

    Then make up your mind :)

    I will do it - I will twist and solder the wires, fill the hole with compacted mineral wool, put a layer of plaster on it, then smooth it a little,
    I paint the sandpaper, soil and paint it with a small roller,
    the paint is in expert matt - I can assure you that there will be no trace - because I see that it shocked some of them the most :)
    Thank you very much for all the tips!
    greetings
    luc
  • #21 6330552
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    What material is the wall? You can shoe deeper if it is a hollow brick and use a can - deep under the plaster.
    If it is concrete, then do as advised above - put on heat-shrinkable sleeves, twist, solder, and heat the sleeves. You can use a few layers of them, because they can 'let go' on sharp edges. Insert such a connection into a piece of conduit / tube (you need to put it on the cable beforehand) or even wrap it with glass wool - use filling material and plaster for it.

    EDIT: Oh, you've figured it out yourself ...
  • #22 6333541
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Luc2000 - you're really up to it. Just cover the can with the lid so that it is below the plaster face and drag the can with the plaster. No trace.
  • #23 6333915
    elektronik999
    Level 26  
    Madrik wrote:
    Luc2000 - you're really up to it. Just cover the can with the lid so that it is below the plaster face and drag the can with the plaster. No trace.

    Hello. I support. I have 4 cans in my room and no trace
  • #24 20644125
    slesh1233
    Level 1  

    To effectively mask the removal of a 220V socket, you can employ a few strategies depending on your specific needs. One option is to use a cloth face mask or a decorative cover that matches the surrounding wall texture or design. This allows you to conceal the area seamlessly while maintaining visual consistency. Alternatively, you can consider utilizing a wall plate or outlet cover that matches the color and style of the surrounding wall, effectively camouflaging the socket's absence. By employing these masking techniques, you can achieve a neat and aesthetically pleasing solution for hiding the removed 220V socket.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the removal and masking of a 220V socket that is connected to other outlets. The user seeks advice on how to safely insulate and conceal the socket without leaving visible traces. Various solutions are proposed, including using heat-shrinkable sleeves for wire insulation, filling the cavity with gypsum or mineral wool, and using a can or box to cover the connection. Suggestions emphasize ensuring moisture protection and the ability to access the connection in the future if needed. The importance of a clean finish with plaster and paint is also highlighted, with recommendations for using specific materials to achieve a seamless look.
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