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Shifting Gears without Clutch Depressed: Stationary & Engine Off Gearbox Damage?

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Can shifting gears without pressing the clutch, while stationary and with the engine off, damage the gearbox?

Generally no, if you move the lever gently with the engine off and the car stationary, it should not damage the gearbox [#6744515][#6745162] The clutch is not doing much in that situation, so several replies say nothing bad happens when you “play” with the gears at standstill [#6745162] The main caveat is a stiff or “jammed” box: if the selector is already resisting and you force it, you can damage the shifting mechanism or clutch shaft [#6744515][#6745114] One reply also notes that if the gearbox has resistance, slowly moving the lever should be fine, but brute force can break something [#6745135] Another poster adds that even if it works, it is better not to risk it as a layman [#7386182]
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  • #1 6744461
    kruczex
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    Hello

    Recently, I was wondering if shifting gears without the clutch depressed, when stationary and with the engine off, could damage the gearboxes ??
    A colleague insists yes, I don't think so.

    What do the specialists say? :) ?
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    marek1977
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    romoo
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    This, without assuming a new topic, asks if in Laguna 1 the chests in 1.8 and 3.0 are the same to the size and I have heard that those with 1.8 will not withstand the torque from the 3.0 engine


    Sorry, I can't press HELP.
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    Jarosx9
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    If someone has the power of the Terminator, it can break, especially if the modes in the chest are set so that there is some resistance to the change, but when you throw it slowly, it shouldn't be a problem.
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    wopor
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    hello, I happened to drive 500 km in the days of Jaruzel without a clutch :) on FSO 1500 se fluid leaked, and I had to find someone who had seals, and this was outside Jaruzel's jurisdiction, under the patronage of Gorbachev :) so you can, as we all have the right to spoil the car :) , unfortunately, I failed to spoil him, continued, greetings, and so on the margins, people, however, sometimes have interesting topics for reflection :) :)
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  • #15 6745923
    romoo
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    owik wrote:
    ...... To break your teeth by operating a lever, you must actually be a Terminator. ....


    Pudzianowski's truth is not enough.
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    KOGUT111
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    Maja, but how long will it be like this !!! :D :D :D
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    marmaro
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    In old cars, maybe in new ones you would have to work hard to break something.
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    kubicak
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    When I had a cut leg on the ankle and 16 stitches, I used the clutch only to start and then "intergas" and a gentle gear change without grinding. nothing was damaged for almost a month. But it's better not to risk it for the layman.
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    coverled
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    Buddy owik, I moved my toddler from four. Not tightened "lollipop" and you have to go home. After a long swing with the lever, I managed to get 4.
    When it comes to changing gears without using the clutch on the so-called "intergas", it is possible to gently without scraping. Sensitive without the use of terminator power.
    With a broken clutch cable, start the car on the thrown one. A few kangaroos, lightly gauze and off we go :) It works well on straight sections of the road, of course, it is not necessary to drive around the city ...

Topic summary

✨ Shifting gears without the clutch depressed while stationary and with the engine off is generally not considered damaging to the gearbox. Most participants in the discussion agree that while it is possible to shift gears in this manner without causing harm, caution is advised. Some users shared personal experiences of successfully shifting gears without the clutch, emphasizing that it requires a gentle approach to avoid potential issues. However, there are mentions of a "jammed box" scenario and the risk of damaging components if excessive force is applied. Overall, the consensus leans towards minimal risk, especially in older vehicles, while newer models may require more effort to cause damage.
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