Master's in Engineering: Full-Time, Work First, or Part-Time Study?

ghost666 wrote:

Well, unless you just don't know what the aforementioned automation engineer does, then I recommend that you find out and revise your view.

The automatic engineer has to deal with commissioning and repairs of automation systems, in which you have soldered connections, among other things. Nobody tells him to have smd chip soldering skills, but he must be able to use a soldering iron (also with other popular tools and meters). If someone who considers himself an automation engineer calls upon an electronic technician to solder something, it is best to give him his diploma immediately, because he has no right to be called an engineer. Let him try to make such a number on an industrial facility, it can immediately change work.
Do you think that an automatic engineer who wants to install the controller will ask the locksmith to drill four holes for mounting the cassette?

Motronic wrote:

A bridge engineer should know how to drill, weld, hammer nails, and lay bricks so that no worker would mock him at work.
An animal husbandry engineer should be able to milk a cow or shake dung away from it.
How simple my thinking is, it is a pity that some people are beyond it and cannot match it. Are you an engineer? It explains everything!

You have just said something else. And I suppose you are without any education? Because this is what shows it ... I'm sorry that my friend was never good enough to achieve something.

jankolo wrote:

ghost666 wrote:

Well, unless you just don't know what the aforementioned automation engineer does, then I recommend that you find out and revise your view.

The automatic engineer has to deal with commissioning and repairs of automation systems, in which you have soldered connections, among other things. Nobody tells him to have smd chip soldering skills, but he must be able to use a soldering iron (also with other popular tools and meters). If someone who considers himself an automation engineer calls upon an electronic technician to solder something, it is best to give him his diploma immediately, because he has no right to be called an engineer. Let him try to make such a number on an industrial facility, he can immediately change the job.
Do you think that an automatic engineer who wants to install the controller will ask the locksmith to drill four holes for mounting the cassette?

These are all bad habits where the best employee is an employee of everything. It would be best if he designed the entire line, made it himself, compiled it, programmed the controller and put everything together. This is usually the case, but it does not mean that you need to know it to be an automation engineer.

PS I am neither an engineer nor an automation specialist

Moderated By jankolo:

For insulting another user of our forum I am punishing you with a warning

ghost666 wrote:

And I suppose you are without any education? Because this is what shows it ... I'm sorry that my friend was never good enough to achieve something.

This is insulting the user of the Electrode. And for that you are punished with a warning.

ghost666 wrote:

These are all bad habits where the best employee is an employee of everything. It would be best if he designed the entire line, made it himself, compiled it, programmed the controller and put everything together. This is usually the case, but it does not mean that you need to know it to be an automation engineer.

You write out stupid things and that's it. An engineer MUST be able to do things by himself so that he does not design stupid things or come up with unrealistic work schedules.
Work a little on commissioning of industrial facilities, you will see what is the difference between an engineer and an ENGINEER.

ghost666 wrote:

I am neither an engineer nor an automation specialist

Is it symptomatic? So why are you talking about this professional group without the slightest idea about it?

Jankolo, first of all - I find using his position as a moderator in the discussion to be at least distasteful. This way you won't prove anything, and besides, if I offended another Electrode user, I would like to point out that that user also offended me, in addition to being the first one. I have already clicked on the appropriate link to report this.

Second - you do not fully understand my intentions I see. I do not mean generating theoretical engineers detached from the world, but rather not burdening engineers with the necessity of having skills that they do not need to have. For me, an automation specialist is (by definition!) A person who knows programming, PLC devices, etc. And this is his basic task, not to be able to solder or drill, he should have people for it ... and since he doesn't, it results from the current conditions.

Third - no, not symptomatic at all. And don't be so categorical as to say that I have no clue about certain things because you are wrong. I don't consider myself an automation, even though I know a few drivers, ladder language, and if I need to, and remember all the math behind the theory of control, I just don't do it on a daily basis and I don't enjoy it at all. And I am not an engineer, because I will be in a few months, and in addition a master's degree in engineering.

Fourth - I have nothing to add to this discussion further, besides, I have the impression that it is too far from the topic, and I do not care to move further away from the topic. I hope that the opinions expressed above are clear and do not offend anyone?

ghost666 wrote:

And I am not an engineer, because I will be in a few months, and in addition a master's degree in engineering.

And that explains it all - young, angry, ambitious.
I hope my friend will change his mind in some time.
Greetings .

I cannot imagine working in construction without knowing all the building technologies "inside out," as Motronik writes, the employees would eat me with shoes and a helmet, and they would do nothing but look for excuses (problems) to stop. But if they know that they will not succeed in any play, they work reliably and try, because they know that they will not get away with any mistakes.

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Theory without practice is like a rifle without a soldier (useless)