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Which driver for Vitodens 100? It is possible to steer. hot water

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Which simple wireless day/night controller can I use with a Vitodens 100, and can it also control domestic hot water scheduling?

Use a simple on/off room thermostat such as Vitotrol 100, Auraton or Euroster; a radio version like Vitotrol 100 UTD-RF or Auraton 2020TX will also work [#7501938][#7494797] With a Vitodens 100, these controllers only switch heating on and off, while the boiler itself still modulates the burner based on water temperature/heating curve when an external sensor is used [#7503898][#8494523] You cannot set domestic hot water time periods from the room controller on a Vitodens 100-W; that function is available on 200 series boilers and above [#8494523] So for your case the choice is mainly about simplicity and price, not about different heating results between basic weekly thermostats [#7502589][#8906460] If you want full boiler automation from the room side, you need dedicated Viessmann automation, not a standard on/off thermostat [#7501938][#7502589]
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  • #31 10390139
    aadamuss
    Level 21  
    Sławo1 has nothing to do with the Vitodens 100 :(
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  • #32 10390488
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #33 10515547
    anioletta
    Level 1  
    personally, I have had the Vitodens 100 stove with the Euroster 2005 controller for several years, and unlike "Zientas", I don't think it is difficult to use, quite the opposite. It is very comfortable and practical. I am very pleased with it. You can set the program that suits you best or choose the one suggested by the manufacturer, so you have the choice. Mostly ok for me.
  • #34 10617378
    futro68
    Level 10  
    You can use any weekly regulator - the so-called thermostat - Auraton, Eroster or Vitotrol 100 for the Vitodens. You will not see the outside temperature in the Vitodens 100 :(
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  • #35 10617527
    Anonymous
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  • #36 15012374
    Szarusiek
    Level 11  
    I took the liberty of digging up an old thread.
    acc. of the Vitodens 100-W WB1B manual, the timer or receiver of the Vitotrol 100 UTD-RF is connected to terminal X7 (24V, CH2, GND, CH1).
    reading further in the manual: channel 1 is used to control heating and channel 2 is used to control DHW heating
    This is how it is with this CWU in the end
    yes or no?
    I have Vitotrol UTD in the wired version, so I do not have this control and I have no way to check it at home.
    Does anyone have a set like this:
    Vitodens 100-W WB1B + Vitotrol UTD-RF?
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  • #37 15012422
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    Which driver for Vitodens 100? It is possible to steer. hot water

    according to this scheme, it is possible to control the temperature and operating time of DHW as much as possible.
    You can also use Openterm drivers and there is certainly such a possibility.
    The issue of cooperation between individual controller models is only a physical connection, on the openterm website Viessmann does not appear as certified.
  • #38 15014711
    Szarusiek
    Level 11  
    well, according to this, yes, only this is associated with significant modifications to the existing installation, and my question concerned the UTD-RF, which theoretically has DHW heating control and the furnace has a control input in theory (CH2 on X7)
    Does anyone have this kit and it works for them?
  • #39 15015337
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    And you can send me a link where you have the described x7 connector, then I will try to fight and send something to PW in a while.
  • #40 15016803
    Szarusiek
    Level 11  
    I will look for the instruction in which it was and send it, but from what I wrote down it is from the left: +24V CH2 GND CH1
    CH1 - heating control
    CH2 - DHW control
    Contact-wise, it doesn't work (I tried), I read somewhere that there are supposedly some time dependencies on these inputs, so direct 24V shorting to CH2 or CH1 does nothing.
    A digital time switch or a Vitotrol 100 UTD-RF or UTDB-RF2 is connected there
    Actually, I'm thinking of a different, pathological solution.
    Switch the HUW into the COMFORT function in order to maintain a higher boiler temperature, and control this heating by parallel connection of a resistor to the boiler temperature sensor.
    When I do not want to heat, I add 10k, the temperature in the boiler remains around 20 degrees at rest, so after such a procedure the temperature should be simulated around 40-50 degrees if I counted correctly.
    Turning on the heating from the automatic device will disconnect this additional resistor so as not to disturb the operation of the stove in the heating mode.
    If there's any mistake in my thinking, please correct me ;-)
  • #41 15016845
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    But rf are, as far as I remember, radio controllers, the receiver goes there. Therefore, a simple short-circuit will not necessarily work, there are also no programs for hot water in these controllers, perhaps they control hot water on / off, but I haven't seen them for a long time, so I don't remember. They are so ugly that people don't want them (I belong to this group privately).
    What you wrote is a variation of the control that is in the diagram above, slightly differently solved.

    If you can't tell what the temperature is, you can trick him into thinking it's different. This is how you can control all analog ntc, ptc, etc. sensors
  • #42 15016849
    Szarusiek
    Level 11  
    fact, utdb is as ugly as a german athlete :D
    I just have UTD in the contact version.
    All in all you are right, as I started to analyze the above diagram in detail and it is a similar solution.
    I will find a free moment, I will assemble a few relays and see how it will behave with 10k attached
  • #43 15016941
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    If you control the resistance of the sensor, then put shunt resistances on the relay's contacts so as not to open the circuit, because it may cause errors. but it's a matter of checking)
    Use only good relays, so as not to give any voltage to the working contacts, because it will collapse the boiler plate.
  • #44 15017493
    Szarusiek
    Level 11  
    I am an automation engineer by trade, so I have access to branded industrial relays
    I will only open the additional 10k resistor, after opening the sensor with its resistance will remain in the circuit. The only unknown is how the boiler will behave after a step resistance change from 6k to 15k (about 40oC to 20oC)
    this is this:
    Which driver for Vitodens 100? It is possible to steer. hot water

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around selecting a user-friendly wireless controller for the Viessmann Vitodens 100 boiler, as the current Euroster 2005 controller is deemed too complex for the user's spouse. Users recommend various alternatives, including the Auraton series, specifically the Auraton 2020TX, which is noted for its simplicity and ease of programming. Concerns are raised about the limitations of the Euroster controller regarding remote control and hot water programming. The conversation also touches on the compatibility of different controllers, such as the Vitotrol 100 and 200, and the functionality of the Vitodens 100 in relation to external sensors and heating curves. Users emphasize the importance of choosing a controller that can effectively manage the boiler's operation while considering cost and usability.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Switching a Viessmann Vitodens 100 from an on/off thermostat to a modulating or weather-guided controller can cut gas use by up to 15 % [Viessmann, 2019]. “Generally not. They will work the same” [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, post #8906460] For users who just want easy day-/night scheduling, a simple 230 V wireless thermostat is often enough.

Why it matters: The right controller balances comfort, fuel bills, and boiler lifespan for this popular condensing unit.

Quick Facts

• Vitotrol 100 UTD (wired) – approx. PLN 440, on/off, weekly timer [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, post #7501938] • Vitotrol 100 UTD-RF (wireless) – approx. PLN 1 050, two-channel output for CH & DHW [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, post #7501938] • Euroster 2005 – service price offer PLN 500, 2-tariff program [Elektroda, Zientas, post #7489920] • DeDietrich AD modulating regulator – catalogue PLN 749, OpenTherm-style modulation [Elektroda, serwisant73, post #7502589] • All basic thermostats for Vitodens 100 must switch 230 V AC safely [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, post #7502571]

Which room thermostats are plug-and-play with a Vitodens 100?

Any 230 V two-wire on/off thermostat such as Auraton 2020TX, Euroster 2005/2026TX, Emos T105VF or Vitotrol 100 will switch the burner correctly [Elektroda, turbine, #7494797; Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, #7502571].

What does a modulating controller do that basic thermostats can’t?

Modulating regulators (e.g., DeDietrich AD series) vary burner output instead of hard on/off. This trims flow temperature and can save up to 15 % gas while cutting burner cycles by 30 % [Viessmann, 2019; Energy Saving Trust, 2020].

Why did an expert call using Auraton on a condensing boiler “horror”?

Auraton is pure on/off. It disables the boiler’s built-in modulation, so you lose efficiency features the condensing design offers [Elektroda, mirrzo, post #7497369]

Can I program domestic hot-water (DHW) times on a Vitodens 100?

The 100-series logic lacks DHW time programmes. Only channel-2 capable units like Vitotrol 100 UTD-RF can force DHW on/off, and even then it’s a simple switch, not full scheduling [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, #8494523; Elektroda, Szarusiek, #15012374].

Does adding a weather sensor override my room thermostat?

No. Weather control sets flow temperature; the room thermostat still enables or disables the burner. If wiring is wrong the boiler may ignore the thermostat, as one user found [Elektroda, s1447, post #8494614]

How should I set the boiler knob when a room thermostat is fitted?

Leave the CH knob at the design flow temperature—e.g., 65 °C for radiators sized to 75 °C—because the room stat only requests heat; it doesn’t adjust that temperature [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, post #7503898]

Can I run both Vitotrol 100 and a third-party thermostat together?

No. The boiler has one control input. Parallel thermostats cause signal conflicts and unpredictable cycling [Elektroda, reconed, post #8745311]

What’s the cheapest reliable wireless option?

Emos T105VF costs approx. PLN 140 and functions like pricier models, providing 7-day scheduling and 30 m range [Elektroda, Zientas, post #7502220]

Edge case: what happens if I swap the thermostat wires?

Reversed live-neutral can leave the burner locked on or off regardless of room temperature, exactly what user s1447 reported before rewiring [Elektroda, s1447, post #8494614]

How do I wire a 230 V thermostat safely?

  1. Isolate mains and verify zero volts.
  2. Connect live feed to thermostat ‘COM’, switched live to boiler terminal X1.
  3. Secure earth/neutral as per manual, restore power. Use a double-insulated cable and strain relief [Viessmann Manual, 2015].

How can I reset PD-Adjustment parameters on Vitotrol 100?

Enter Service Menu > PD-Adjustment, set Amplitude = 5, Time Constant = 20 min, Reg-Offset = 0. These are factory defaults documented in the Vitotrol 100 guide [Vitotrol Manual, 2009]—user fido2001 restored them after experimenting [Elektroda, fido2001, post #10037246]

Will spending PLN 800 instead of PLN 200 give me better comfort?

Comfort relies on matching control type to boiler, not price. Both low-cost and premium on/off thermostats hold ±0.5 °C, but only a modulating unit improves efficiency [Elektroda, wawrzeczko_t, #8906460; Viessmann, 2019].
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