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A trillion, not a trillion ... English, Polish, Russian, how many zeros?

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Why do Polish and English number names use different numbers of zeros for trillion and billion?

Because different languages use different numbering scales: Polish follows the long scale, while English-speaking countries mainly use the short scale [#7916300] [#7916507] In the thread’s examples, a billion is 1,000,000,000 in Polish/continental usage, but in English the equivalent name is used differently, so the naming shifts by one step [#7916507] [#7918241] On the long scale, million is 10^6, billion is 10^9, trillion is 10^12, then billiard is 10^15 [#7918241] On the short scale, billion is 10^9, trillion is 10^12, quadrillion is 10^15, and so on [#7918241] So the confusion comes from the same words being assigned to different powers of ten in different language traditions, not from any arithmetic mistake [#7916507]
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    Why does the Polish trillion have 9 zeros and the English trillion has 12?
    Apparently, English (probably also Russian) a billion is our billion. Why is there such confusion with numbers ...
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    MARCIN.SLASK wrote:
    Why does the Polish trillion have 9 zeros and the English trillion has 12?
    Apparently, English (probably also Russian) a billion is our billion. Why is there such confusion with numbers ...

    And not the other way around?
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    [quote = "się_polska"]
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    (mainly English-speaking countries) trillion.

    Billion
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    MARCIN.SLASK wrote:
    Why is there such confusion with numbers ...
    Different language - different names, I don't see anything strange about it. Rather, it is strange that a million have the same name everywhere :P
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    c4r0 wrote:
    MARCIN.SLASK wrote:
    Why is there such confusion with numbers ...
    Different language - different names, I don't see anything strange about it. Rather, it is strange that a million have the same name everywhere :P


    I understand the difference. But why here a trillion has 9 zeros and there has 12 ... That's confusing.
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    Because a billion in Polish is a different word than billion in English. So it's not like "a trillion has 9 here and there has 12 zeros." Besides, just like arekadiusz he wrote, it is the other way around: here a trillion is 10 ^ 12, and in the USA, billion is 10 ^ 9. Besides, the difference is not only in a trillion, see it: http://www.jimloy.com/math/billion.htm
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    MARCIN.SLASK wrote:

    He understands the difference. But why here a trillion has 9 zeros and there has 12 ... That's confusing.

    This is understood by a colleague in the end or not?

    million - 1.000.000 - 6 zeros
    United Kingdom (GB): million
    America (US): million

    billion - 1,000,000,000 - 9 zeros
    GB: thousand million
    US: billion

    trillion - 1,000,000,000,000 - 12 zeros
    GB: billion
    US: trillion

    billiards - 1,000,000,000,000,000 - 15 zeros
    GB: thousand billion
    US: quadrillion

    trillion - 1.000.000.000.000.000.000 - 18 zeros
    GB: trillion
    US: quintillion

    trliard - 1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 - 21 zeros
    GB: thousand trillion
    US: sextillion

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    Already brighter.
    Thanks for explanation.
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✨ The discussion centers around the differences in numerical terminology between Polish and English, specifically regarding the terms "billion" and "trillion." In Polish, a billion is defined as 10^9 (1,000,000,000), while in English, it is also 10^9 but referred to as "billion." The term "trillion" in English represents 10^12 (1,000,000,000,000), while in Polish, it is defined as 10^9 (1,000,000,000) in some contexts, leading to confusion. The conversation highlights the variations in naming conventions across languages and the implications for understanding large numbers.
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