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80L Compressor Compatibility with Air Wrenches: Wheel & Large Screw Removal Efficiency

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  • #1 7934451
    patrykmaster5
    Level 10  
    Hello, I have such a question. I recently bought an 80 liter compressor and now I would like to buy air wrenches. Will the compressor be too weak to, for example, unscrew the wheels or larger screws. Please help
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  • #2 7934656
    RobertLodz09
    Level 30  
    What is the air output capacity? Is a reciprocating compressor? The volume of the cylinder itself does not say anything! Regards!
  • #3 7934715
    patrykmaster5
    Level 10  
    on the compressor it says: 230 / 50Hz 1500W 2.0HP 0.8MPa 50L (Judging by 50L, it is probably 50 liters? :) )
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  • #4 7934757
    Axtur
    Level 12  
    Yes, it is a compressor with a 50l tank. so you can forget about wrenches, grinders, etc. when it comes to activities such as, for example, a vulcanizer. Of course, all pneumatic devices will work, but the compressed air supply is too small for even semi-professional use (more nerves than worth it) but you can always have fun and even if the compressor has more than 1 piston there is a slight chance that it will satisfy your needs because in the case of a single piston it's a waste of money for better equipment (e.g. a pneumatic wrench)
  • #5 7934765
    carrot
    Moderator of Cars
    The working pressure of 0.8MPa is enough for efficiency, I do not know, but after all, the pneumatic does not break all the time, unless you want to play the tire holder.
    As for the key, I use King Tony on a daily basis Link
    It is able to unscrew the driveshaft, and that's enough for me
    and one more thing:
    I have a 3-cylinder compressor with a 3.5kW engine and a 150l tank, when a tinsmith paints something, he yells at me so that I do not use a pneumatic because I take air from him to the gun
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    #7 7934852
    Axtur
    Level 12  
    As I wrote above, it will work, but if ..................... nobody knows if you have one piston (cylinder), it's a pity to the west because this kit has a demand of about 300l / min and your compressor will give about 150 l / min in gusts, it is possible that you will have to fill the tank several times for one screw
  • #8 7934894
    patrykmaster5
    Level 10  
    OK THANKS
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    #9 7934899
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #10 7934985
    RobertLodz09
    Level 30  
    With such a compressor, you can only turn the air wrench in the air, min. it has to be a double piston to get anything to do with it! Regards!
    On such 50 lit. with one piston, you can do chassis maintenance, etc. work.
  • #11 7934997
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #12 7935042
    carrot
    Moderator of Cars
    I dumped two keys like in the link in the garbage, they managed to survive in the workshop for 3 months, the right-left switch is without any o-rings, after several hundred switchings the key housing is wiped and the air escapes near the valve, instead of driving the turbine
  • #13 7935060
    patrykmaster5
    Level 10  
    All that's left for me to do is buy an electric key. Only I could not find this type of rattles, maybe they are not at all?
  • #14 7935085
    carrot
    Moderator of Cars
    They are, but they are not cheap Link
    Once, I even used a battery on the rally, it's a nice toy, a battery on the shoulder straps on the back (yes with 10 kg), a piece of cable and a key, 4 wheels in 3 minutes
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    #16 7936449
    Axtur
    Level 12  
    Well, it can, and with your compressor, the demand for air is reduced according to the seller 150l / min but the seized screw may not move, and for example, unscrewing the wheels with it is a pure abstraction, I used to play with this and the max for me is M8 but from what I read your impulses are going in the right direction - electric impact wrench are not so expensive - Chinese food on alle ... from 150 PLN http://moto.allegro.pl/listing/search.php?string=klucz&from_showcat=1&category=28436. I personally have a Hitachi model, I do not remember it and it is doing great (the factory joint nut in a 10-year-old delivery van is a breeze for him - normally a 36 + 2 meter pipe wrench) but what else I can do for you is to find out from a representative, e.g. Hitachi, wurth how prices are for them, but it's only tomorrow, aha, as you gave in the above post in the electric version, rather not present, I have already looked at 4 catalogs (different companies)
    and there is nothing like that
  • #17 7936592
    patrykmaster5
    Level 10  
    Ok thanks so much :)
  • #18 15553030
    Przemo8807
    Level 8  
    Hello
    I have a question about the 50l compressor, I read a bit here on the forum and I do not know if I understand correctly, will it be able to handle the wheel wrench, which has a demand of 150l / m?
  • #19 15553080
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #20 15554034
    Bambek
    Level 15  
    Quote:
    The 50 L compressor is suitable for domestic use. The impact wrench will only spin empty.
    - 50% not true. The capacity of the cylinder is not entirely related to the value of the torque generated on the key, but more to the time for which the maximum torque will be generated.

    I bought a Maktek SKY50V double piston compressor, a 50-liter cylinder, and a pneumatic wheel wrench by "FORE" (probably the FD 2600 model, but I'm not sure of that, I am writing from memory, I will check it and correct it). Both were "Chinese food", it stank until the garage had to be ventilated after unpacking ;)
    For me, the compressor work cycle between the rebounding of the air (the range on - off is 6-8bar) allows you to unscrew 8-10 bolts securing the wheels in a passenger car. And unscrewing it looks like this, that it has to roll for a moment 1-2 seconds with each screw before unscrewing it. Also for amateurs, such a set works perfectly for this application - changing wheels, winter, summer, also works very well with seized bolts / nuts. The 4 wheels are replaced 5-6 times to add air when loosening and tightening the bolts.
    So if someone thinks about the cooperation of the compressor with a pneumatic wrench, then a minimum 50l cylinder and a minimum 2-piston compressor.
    The cross-section of the air supply hose to the key is important. You won't actually unscrew anything on a thin hose, I have a diameter of 8 mm 10 m and the key works.
    A cylinder smaller than 25 l is not suitable for pneumatic devices (tested), except for a blowing gun.
  • #21 15555139
    Przemo8807
    Level 8  
    Oh, but continuing my thread, it must necessarily have a two-piston compressor? and such an ordinary single-piston will not cope? And this question, I was looking at the allegro and I was interested in three such keys, namely Yato, Asta and Scorpio (I do not remember the models, unfortunately), have air consumption from 120-160l / s and would it handle it or a lame?
  • #22 15625235
    mar111cin
    Level 12  
    I have a question - I have the same set as Bambek, i.e. the maktek sky50v compressor and now the Fore FD-2600 key has come to me, and I have a hose with an internal diameter of 10mm and a length of 10m.
    I can't even unscrew the wheel with this key ...
    When I started checking with a torque wrench, the wheels are tightened to about 140Nm and there is linden. If I tighten the nut to 120Nm, this pneumatic wrench will unscrew it, but funny - it cannot unscrew the nut, which it tightened itself :)

    Does it work for you?
    Do you have a hose threaded directly into the cylinder? (I connected to the factory outputs at the top of the cylinder, behind the valves)
    Another question about the knob on the key - I clearly feel a jump, but it turns around, not only in positions 0 to 5


    Thanks in advance for your answer
  • #23 15627778
    Bambek
    Level 15  
    Tomorrow I will take a photo of the set and send it to you. It works without a problem for me, sometimes a bolt happens to the wheel, which also cannot move, but these are isolated cases. After the winter, I changed the wheels in two cars and all the bolts went (also tightened with this pneumatic and additionally slightly pressed with a wrench with an extension) but, for example, the nuts from the joint could not move anymore. The control knob is 0-5, I also spin around and I have the impression that there is no difference between setting "0" and "5", but maybe it's just such an impression because the adjustment range is small and you do not feel it, I don't know .
    Anyway, if any nut / bolt does not go to 0 and it will not go to 5 either, that's how it is for me. I mainly use the wrench for the wheels, sometimes it is rusty and I don't want to twist the bolt, so I'll roll around a bit and I can unscrew it.
    Maybe you came across a less carefully made piece. You have no losses on the connectors, what pressure you have set at the outlet because I give 6 bar and more, maybe you set too little pressure. In my case, the compressor increases to 8 bar, I set about 6-7 bar on the key. According to the instructions, the maximum working pressure for the key is 6 bar. You regulate the working pressure with a knob with a smaller pressure gauge. I also have the valves connected.
  • #24 15628159
    mar111cin
    Level 12  
    Oh: /
    Thanks a lot for the answer, it's all clear now - the wrench is weak ... I do not pinch myself with tightening the wheels and tighten them tightly.
    Today I made a test with a direct connection to the cylinder hose (I unscrewed this cap on the front of the cylinder and bought a 1/2 "quick coupler - no slight improvement in the operation of the wrench, and it was already 8 bar without any loss of pressure.

    Nothing, I hope that the store will take it back to me, and I will buy a stronger one, I think I will take yato 1356Nm, as if tire services use it also for buses.
    Thanks again for your help
  • #25 15628446
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #26 15628458
    mar111cin
    Level 12  
    I bought and will use it now, but the 140Nm torque is just for the wheel, just too much for the Chinese FD-2600 to unscrew it ;)
  • #27 15628718
    Bambek
    Level 15  
    BEZET-AGRO wrote:
    mar111cin wrote:
    . I do not pinch when tightening the wheels and tighten them tightly.
    hard it doesn't mean good! If you want to be sure, use a torque wrench!


    Exactly, as my colleague writes, strongly does not mean well. I already know a few who healed from tightening the screws until the "water runs" because they either torn the threads or faced the problem of a twisted screw. It is better to check 1-2 times a season than to do it without moderation. It has never happened to me that the screws are loose and I do not tighten at all. After the pneumatic, only always gently - literally a fraction of a turn - I tighten with a wrench with an extension.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the compatibility of an 80-liter compressor with air wrenches for tasks such as wheel and large screw removal. Users express concerns about the compressor's air output capacity, which is around 150 liters per minute, and its ability to handle pneumatic tools effectively. Many participants suggest that a single-piston compressor may not provide sufficient air supply for continuous use with air wrenches, particularly for tasks requiring high torque, such as unscrewing wheel bolts. Recommendations include considering a two-piston compressor for better performance. Some users share experiences with specific brands and models, noting that while cheaper pneumatic tools may work for light tasks, they often struggle with more demanding applications. Electric impact wrenches are also suggested as a viable alternative for home use.
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