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The whole truth about household appliances: which brands to choose, which to avo

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  • #1 8531491
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    Hello.
    As we know, there are over a dozen companies producing household appliances on the market. Virtually every city has several household appliances stores, and practically in each one they recommend something else. There are no reliable appliances, this is also known forever.

    In order to enjoy the use of household appliances, and not just to get angry about the fact that we have a nice piece of furniture, it is best to avoid certain manufacturers in all types of equipment.

    This question is mainly for sellers, service technicians and users who have a longer experience in using household appliances, and not for those who have a washing machine for 2 weeks and praise it to the heavens.

    Which company to choose: washing machines, refrigerators, dishwashers, hoods, freezers, small household appliances, ovens, hobs, etc. to enjoy long use (I know, there is no rule for this, but there are less and more reliable companies), and which companies should be avoided in a given segment of household appliances.

    In one of the stores I heard that, for example, Beko is a bad company, and in the other, they praised it from all sides. Isn't it that each chain has to pay for the sale of certain brands?

    I do not want to get names of specific models here, because that is not what it is about.

    Example. Brand X refrigerators are better than Brand Y because they are better made, have better components, are relatively less emergency than Brand Y, parts and service work very well, etc.

    Dear retailers, why would you prefer to sell e.g. Amica washing machines and not Bosch, Electrolux refrigerators and not Gorenje refrigerators? There must be something behind this.
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  • #2 8531576
    Anonymous
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  • #3 8531586
    kostian
    Level 25  
    Avoid Ardo equipment in all its form.
    Regards.
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  • #4 8531645
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    xMarSx wrote:
    Vacuum cleaner, blender, grinder, slicer, juicer, food processor, toaster - Zelmer
    Blender - Braun
    Iron - Tefal
    Hair dryer, straightener - Philips / unless the more professional ones are Gamma, Wahl
    Ironing board - Vileda
    Coffee machine - Jura
    Washing machine - Bosch / Siemens


    I agree with most of them. Why Bosch / Siemens when it comes to washing machines? They are well-known brands on the market, but at the moment they are persistently destroying the reputation of reliable appliances, producing, among others, disposable washing machines - of course, we are talking about cheaper equipment.
  • #5 8531907
    kostian
    Level 25  
    Because now Bosch and Siemens are made in Poland.
    Te Made In Germany (although we probably won't find it now because it is the EU) - they were quite high.
    The same can be said - what do German Opel cars hold longer than those made in Poland?
    Coincidence .... interesting?
  • #6 8531941
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    I know that Bosch and Siemens are made in Poland - and unfortunately they make these so-called disposables here, which makes Poles think that crap is produced in Poland, which is not true, because let's look at the Mastercook. , refrigerators and built-in units from Mastercook is at a very high level.
  • #7 8532309
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #8 8533011
    editor
    Level 13  
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    I know that Bosch and Siemens are made in Poland - and unfortunately they make these so-called disposables here

    You have no idea what they are doing in Poland and what in Germany. the topic was raised more than once on this forum, if you had made an effort, found and read it, you would not write nonsense.
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    In my opinion, the new line of washing machines, refrigerators and built-in units from Mastercook is at a very high level.

    really great opinion. have you seen these refrigerators up close? take a look at their execution, not photoshopped photos in folders.
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  • #9 8533235
    Koolo
    Level 18  
    Whenever possible, I always choose Polish products
    I also recommend zelmer, fleece, mastercook to all my friends and so far I have not been disappointed. In other areas, I also try to choose Polish brands or companies that produce in Poland, and contrary to appearances, it is a bit and much better than the "Western" brands produced in China ;-)

    ps. the seller is probably the last person to ask for advice when buying ;-) and faith in spontaneous opinions of users, e.g. on ceneo.pl, is also not given to me ;-)
  • #10 8533375
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    editor wrote:
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    I know that Bosch and Siemens are made in Poland - and unfortunately they make these so-called disposables here

    You have no idea what they are doing in Poland and what in Germany. the topic was raised more than once on this forum, if you had made an effort, found and read it, you would not write nonsense.
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    In my opinion, the new line of washing machines, refrigerators and built-in units from Mastercook is at a very high level.

    really, a great opinion. have you seen these refrigerators up close? take a look at their execution, not photoshopped photos in folders.


    Most of the washing machines made in Poland have non-replaceable bearings, hence the name disposable.

    As for the Mastercook equipment, I saw it up close, and if someone tells me that it is cheaply made, I invite you to watch Candy, Beko etc. and then compare.

    I am glad that someone who had a different opinion replied, as I wrote, I am not looking for specific models, but general opinions about brands.
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  • #11 8533460
    piotr5000
    Level 21  
    The cheap Siemens washing machine has been serving a family of six for five years.
    3 months ago I changed the pump (it was Italian) because it was not pouring out the water. OK bearings. Maybe I found a unique copy?
  • #12 8533515
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    piotr5000 wrote:
    The cheap Siemens washing machine has been serving a family of six for five years.
    3 months ago I changed the pump (it was Italian) because it was not pouring out the water. OK bearings. Maybe I found a unique copy?


    You probably missed a unique copy, because it is not said that every Bosch / Siemens will have problems with, for example, bearings :) We can shoot that out of 100 washing machines, about 20-30 will have problems, we will read about them on the forum, and we will not even find out about the remaining 80-70, because they will fulfill their function for many years.

    What do you think about Gorenje?
  • #13 8533556
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    Honestly, anything but LG. Amica washing machine 12 years (valve replaced. Cost PLN 40) Philips cooker 5 years (Spiral in the oven PLN 130). Ardo refrigerator 12 years, failure-free.

    Anyone of my friends who had LG equipment has always complained. I also have a microwave and a fridge in the company (this is not a gastronomic establishment, someone will heat their dinner, sandwiches will be left in the fridge, a bottle in the freezer :-) ) The microwave does not work after a month, subject to warranty. They did three months (first repair). After the third repair, the boss got in ..... and bought a Siemens. 2, 5 years without failure. And it still works. The refrigerator stopped cooling a week before the end of the warranty. The service started to arrive, the warranty expired. And since it was not profitable to repair, a new one, Ardo, was purchased. A year and eight months of trouble-free operation so far and praises.

    Sometimes it is better to add a few zlotys and buy branded and good quality gear.
    Because cheap meat, the dog will not eat it either.
  • #14 8533963
    editor
    Level 13  
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    Most of the washing machines made in Poland have non-replaceable bearings, hence the name disposable.

    about this so that these service technicians can tell which they have and which they do not. from what you write here, it looks like you are not a service technician, so you accept some super simple simplifications or something that "has caught your ears".

    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    As for the Mastercook equipment, I saw it up close, and if someone tells me that it is cheaply made, I invite you to watch Candy, Beko etc. and then compare.

    I'm telling you it's tacky. fridges are crap, the fact that candy is even more crap, but you wanted to compare to BSH, and then suddenly you're aiming down to other equally lousy brands.

    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    I am glad that someone who had a different opinion replied, as I wrote, I am not looking for specific models, but general opinions about brands.

    general opinion about brands, you can bitch at will. tell me then how a brand like bosch can produce WAA series washing machines and at the same time the highest WAS models. these things have nothing to do except the logo on the front. but seek general opinion and fight in the forums. maybe the mastercook will reward you somehow :D
  • #15 8533997
    JohnnyBlaze
    Level 15  
    JohnnyBlaze wrote:
    I am glad that someone who had a different opinion replied, as I wrote, I am not looking for specific models, but general opinions about brands.

    general opinion about brands, you can bitch at will. tell me then how a brand like bosch can produce WAA series washing machines and at the same time the highest WAS models. these things have nothing to do except the logo on the front. but seek general opinion and fight in the forums. maybe the mastercook will reward you somehow :D [/ quote]

    I have nothing to do with the Mastercook, but maybe they'll pay you back.

    You see, you can read something in the name of the BSH model: what does WAA mean, and what, for example, WAS?
  • #16 8534155
    Piotr Sz.
    Level 14  
    From what I concluded after reading the above posts, the IMHO topic is completely shit and asks to be denied.
    Another "popular" topic about washing machines and refrigerators?
    Buddy, create a topic "which cars are better Volkswagen or Opel?"
    And do not ask specifically about a model, only in general terms - what?
  • #17 8535137
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the reliability of various household appliance brands, with users sharing their experiences and recommendations. Popular brands mentioned for specific appliances include Zelmer for vacuum cleaners and small appliances, Braun for blenders, Tefal for irons, Philips for hair dryers, Jura for coffee machines, and Bosch/Siemens for washing machines. Users express concerns about the declining quality of Bosch and Siemens products, particularly those manufactured in Poland, labeling some as "disposable." Ardo is strongly advised against, while Mastercook is praised for its quality. The conversation highlights the importance of brand reputation and user experiences over time, with a general consensus that investing in reputable brands can lead to better long-term satisfaction.
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