Comparing Amica, Samsung, Bosch Washing Machines: Features, Reliability, and Zelmer Models

Hello,

in connection with the move to a larger apartment and a larger bathroom, I plan to replace the washing machine with a slightly newer one. I currently have Whirpool loaded from above.

I looked around for washing machines and I turned my attention to Amici washing machines because:
- has replaceable bearings
- for a fee, you can extend the warranty for 5 years (the manufacturer and not additional insurance)
- in new models it is possible to add clothes during washing
- (I'm not sure about that) a demountable drum.
- wide service network

The question of how Amici washing machines work in practice. Is there any sense to pay extra for Samsung / Bosch or something else?
I do not expect it to be eternal, but the point is that in the event of a failure it can be repaired and not bought a new one.

And did anyone have contact with Zelmer's washing machine? I did not know that Zelmer was doing washing machines but recently I noticed on their website. Interestingly, they give a 5-year warranty right away.

I would like to thank you for all the advice.

I had contact with the Amica service center, I do not recommend, a 5-year warranty also not worth the nerves, as well as their current washing machines. Zelmer released the washing machines? Apparently, there were spare capacity and they started to propose to us.

I must admit that I have other experience with their service center. A fan-cooled windmill in the oven broke down. I called, gave the model, set a deadline, the service technician came and exchanged it on the spot. Therefore, among other things, I considered Amica. You worried me a bit.

I had a washing machine with a five-year warranty, it broke four times. Heater, module, something and the module. If the module was broken, the washing machine did not start spinning, it just turned around, the service always said at first that it was their super sensors from the production that signaled that the laundry was poorly arranged. Once a service arrived and they exchanged a good drive belt that it would probably help with spinning, or if the heater was burned after six months, the servant pressed a stone powder against his wife. One time, the lady from the service wanted to approach me and asks me the question "This is when this fault, week, two weeks?" I say that from yesterday and in the conditions of the guarantee I write that it is necessary to report the defect immediately. The interview recorded and preferably it would canceled the warranty under any pretext. I was able to get into Amica because I had the equipment in the kitchen from them and the first washing machine too from them but the latter was a misunderstanding. Also, as their production line in Wronki sold to Samsung is Chinese, they will never make them good equipment. In order for my wife to do the laundry when I was waiting for the service, I bought a used piece of meat for 450 zlotys, only after that she learned how to wash and spin the washing machine.

Siemens XSP1241 broke down. So I bought Amica AWB510L.
I say yes, these washing machines divide the chasm when it comes to the quality of the washing in favor of the Amica washing machine. No more German trash.

Amica = Samsung and so much in the topic. Amica sold the Samsung washing machine factory.

The next thing he believes in a fairy tale, Samsung bought a factory from Amica because he could not cope with the quality in Chinese factories and Amica was on the verge of bankruptcy. Amica in the contract was guaranteed a one-year delivery of washing machines from Samsung, nowhere was it written that they would be washing machines from Poland. They sold them what they had done in China, moreover, just look at the packaging of washing machines, pure Chinese.

It is not profitable, the programmers do ... do not know how to rotate and are not well balanced. Buy used Miele, I did it myself

Hello, I'm also thinking about the Amica model DAW 7123 DCIBT.
However, there are no specific reviews of this product.
By entering one of the price comparison websites - positive opinions, but as if written under a template, not very constructive.

Does anyone have the above model? How does it work?

If not Amica DAW 7123 DCIBT maybe LG F0J5QN4W and maybe something else +/- 1,500 PLN?

yanes wrote:

Zelmer released the washing machine? Apparently there were spare capacity

Yes, in Chinese.
Zelmer's vacuum cleaners have been branded from China for a while, just as Łucznik sells bathroom scales and also Chinese scales.

Who do you explain, how I tell you that I wrote it as sarcasm.
@pstryczek very well described the problem with washing machines Amica, it was identical in my situation. The reviews were full of positive entries, only after a year began to appear negative.Sutuacja similar to the one with Celma power tools, the same positives, delight that it is a Polish product and inept attempts to tell you that their hammers are better than Bosch's.

I had CANDY, she did not last 4 years. | The site was 4 times during this time. As the bearings went, it was not repairable.
I bought Amica, one of the cheaper, but I suggested the price and the possibility of replacing the bearings.
I will say yes, no regrets. It was at least 2.5 times cheaper than this Candy, the wife claims to wash better, has a simpler driver. For now, the same advantages.
She is now 3 years old, so far it's ok.
I have matured to avoid equipment with displays - miracles, as if I had to sit in the bathroom and replace the television with a washing machine
Why do I need 18 washing programs as they are used every day 2 and sometimes 3 times.
The simpler the device, the better. But that's my opinion.

btw. I also found this ZELMER, it is exactly the ZEW 10E20PL model

Out of curiosities, not available in "larger" stores, a 5-year warranty.
However, the opinion shows (I am not convinced of them, just as in the case of the AMICA washing machine), that it is manufactured in Poland on the same line as Bosch and probably interchangeable bearings.
Is anyone able to verify this?

My post from 2008 when I was suffering with Amica. https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1152033.html In the end I gave my parents but I put in a second programmer used, they run after the bathroom but they are still happy because they used to have Tamata made in Czechoslovakia. In this one of the plus that the bearings in the meantime had to change and the drum is unscrewable. Then I had the 6th sense of Whirpool, the bearings that gave such a small that maybe 4 kg would last. There was an attempt to replace them, cut the tank and its gluing, but together with the water got to them. In the end I took Miele W2241 from http://www.agd-wro.pl/?kontakt and this has been working for more than 5 years and in total has 11 and so far no charges. It's just that my spine sat down - 100 kg weighs! but at least its spinning is not terrible.
I will add that when it comes to friends Amica I saw a newer model and had similar problems with spinning as old. As if the housing changed and the programmer was still the same.
In my Amica, February on the programmer's board cracked and the paths could burn out or go blue, and the chip could be replaced.

Zelmer's story is not different. Zelmer saved himself from falling and divided into three parts. Zelmer SA, Zelmer Market, Zelmer sp. Z o. O. The last two brands are mostly Chinese production, some of them older Bosch technology.
After some time, these three companies again created one whole, after which Bosch bought the entire share issue package.

AMICA sold for approx. PLN 200 million PLN two factories: washing machines and refrigerators. The contract was finalized in 2010.

freak82 wrote:

btw. I also found this ZELMER, it is exactly the ZEW 10E20PL model

Out of curiosities, not available in "larger" stores, a 5-year warranty.
However, the opinion shows (I am not convinced of them, just as in the case of the AMICA washing machine), that it is manufactured in Poland on the same line as Bosch and probably interchangeable bearings.
Is anyone able to verify this?

I do not know how this cited model but ZEW 10N00PL has interchangeable bearings. The 5-year warranty, as per the warranty card, was only offered for washing machines purchased by the end of 2017.

I recommend one of the models of LG washing machines At present, in the family we have from 4 washing machines of this company that work without a problem. Engines in the washing machines have a 10-year warranty and the ability to replace bearings

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I will not buy anything there), now I have samsung ecobubble for Ok 3.5tys it works 3 years without problems, although I heard a lot of good things about lg and Bosch washing machines.

I sign up with what Glorus wrote, the tragedy service also promised them that I will never buy anything from them.

Glorus wrote:

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I would not buy anything there again), currently I have a Samsung ecobubble for about 3.5 thousand, it works for 3 years without problems, although I have heard a lot of good things about LG and Bosch washing machines.

I am currently repairing a 2006 Whirpool. How's Samsung since then? In the meantime there was an apron, maybe a bearing I don't remember and now brushes to be replaced.

In the context of Amici, I got a damaged kitchen, I wanted them to replace the oven chamber as it was cracked from new with missing enamel on the back. They beat me. 2 years ago I put PLN 650 into it as the owner was stubborn and I didn't get anything with them either.

dejfit wrote:

Glorus wrote:

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I would not buy anything there again), currently I have a Samsung ecobubble for about 3.5 thousand, it works for 3 years without problems, although I have heard a lot of good things about LG and Bosch washing machines.

I am currently repairing a 2006 Whirpool. How's Samsung since then? In the meantime there was an apron, maybe a bearing I don't remember and now brushes to be replaced.

In the context of Amici, I got a damaged kitchen, I wanted them to replace the oven chamber as it was cracked from new with missing enamel on the back. They beat me. 2 years ago I put PLN 650 into it as the owner was stubborn and I didn't get anything with them either.

In Samsung, I replaced the bearing and recently the water pump, it wasn't too expensive and the washing machine continues to run like crazy, as for Amici, the oven died from me and the repair was half the value

I was better. We bought an ELEKTROLUX washing machine for a summer house
by the sea, because the wife has a company, so she took an invoice to reflect the costs
The washing machine was used maybe 15-20 times in the summer when we were at the seaside.
The second year after winter, when we came to the seaside, the bearings were very noisy.
I called the service and you say that the warranty ended 3 days ago, because the equipment for the company is only 12 months old and not 24 as it is under warranty.

After cutting the tank, it turned out that the brass sleeve on the cross was cracked with a gap of about 1.5mm, which caused a leak, which caused the bearings to rust over the winter. I suppose it was a factory defect that came out after the winter when the washing machine was not used. They specially release such junk that will withstand the warranty and then deal with it yourself.

That's why he revives old equipment, because he didn't want anything from me for so many years. Also, I don't know what to buy.
In the context of Amici ovens. There are usually 3 heaters, a function switch and possibly a programmer. As a rule, everything does not fly at once. I made a convection heater and it cost about PLN 50. Another time, probably the function switch for someone also came out about 40-50.