Comparing Amica, Samsung, Bosch Washing Machines: Features, Reliability, and Zelmer Models

Hello,

in connection with the move to a larger apartment and a larger bathroom, I plan to replace the washing machine with a slightly newer one. I currently have Whirpool loaded from above.

I looked around for washing machines and I turned my attention to Amici washing machines because:
- has replaceable bearings
- for a fee, you can extend the warranty for 5 years (the manufacturer and not additional insurance)
- in new models it is possible to add clothes during washing
- (I'm not sure about that) a demountable drum.
- wide service network

The question of how Amici washing machines work in practice. Is there any sense to pay extra for Samsung / Bosch or something else?
I do not expect it to be eternal, but the point is that in the event of a failure it can be repaired and not bought a new one.

And did anyone have contact with Zelmer's washing machine? I did not know that Zelmer was doing washing machines but recently I noticed on their website. Interestingly, they give a 5-year warranty right away.

I would like to thank you for all the advice.

I've had dealings with Amica's service centre, I wouldn't recommend it, the 5 year warranty isn't worth the nerves either, neither are their current washing machines. Zelmer released the washing machines? Apparently there was spare capacity, that's what they started offering us too.

I must admit that I have other experience with their service center. A fan-cooled windmill in the oven broke down. I called, gave the model, set a deadline, the service technician came and exchanged it on the spot. Therefore, among other things, I considered Amica. You worried me a bit.

I had a washing machine with a five-year warranty, it broke four times: a heater, a module, something there and a module. When the module was broken, the washing machine wouldn't start spinning, it just spun in circles. The service always claimed at the beginning that it was their super balancing sensors that signalled that the laundry was misplaced. Once the service lady came and replaced the good drive belt, saying that this would supposedly help with the spinning, or when the heater burnt out after six months, the service man pressed some anti-limescale powder on my wife. One time the service lady wanted to approach me and asks me the question, "So since when has this fault been happening, a week, two weeks?" I say since yesterday, and in the warranty terms and conditions I check, it says to report the fault immediately. The conversation is recorded and they would be most happy to cancel the warranty on any pretext. I was fooled by Amica because I had appliances in my kitchen from them and my first washing machine also from them, but the latter was a misunderstanding. Probably as they sold their production line in Wronki to Samsung, the Chinese will never make them good appliances again. So that my wife could do the laundry while I was waiting for the service, I bought a second-hand Miele for PLN450, only after that did she find out how a washing machine is supposed to wash and spin.

Siemens XSP1241 broke down. So I bought Amica AWB510L.
I say yes, these washing machines divide the chasm when it comes to the quality of the washing in favor of the Amica washing machine. No more German trash.

Amica = Samsung and so much in the topic. Amica sold the Samsung washing machine factory.

The next thing he believes in a fairy tale, Samsung bought a factory from Amica because he could not cope with the quality in Chinese factories and Amica was on the verge of bankruptcy. Amica in the contract was guaranteed a one-year delivery of washing machines from Samsung, nowhere was it written that they would be washing machines from Poland. They sold them what they had done in China, moreover, just look at the packaging of washing machines, pure Chinese.

It's not worth it, the programmers suck, they can't spin and are badly balanced. Buy a used Miele, I did that myself.

Hello, I am also considering an Amica washing machine model DAW 7123 DCIBT.
However, there are no specific reviews of this product.
Going on one of the price comparison sites - only positive reviews, however, as if written for a template, not very constructive.

Does anyone own the above model? How does it perform in use?

If not the Amica DAW 7123 DCIBT, then maybe the LG F0J5QN4W, or maybe something else +/- PLN1500?

yanes wrote:

Zelmer released the washing machine? Apparently there were spare capacity

Yes, in Chinese.
Zelmer's vacuum cleaners have been branded from China for a while, just as Łucznik sells bathroom scales and also Chinese scales.

To whom are you explaining this? Like me, I'll tell you I wrote it as sarcasm.
@pstryczek described the problem with Amica washing machines very well, identical was my situation. The reviews were full of positive posts, it was only after a year that the negative ones started to appear. The situation is similar to the one with Celma power tools, all positive, delight that it is a Polish product and a clumsy attempt to make you believe that their hammer drills are better than Bosch products.

I had a CANDY, it didn't last 4 years. Serviced 4 times in that time. When the bearings flew, it was beyond repair.
I bought an Amica, one of the cheaper ones, but I suggested the price and also the possibility of replacing the bearings.
I'll say this, I don't regret it. It was at least 2.5 times cheaper than this Candy, my wife says it washes better, has a simpler controller. So far the advantages alone.
It's now passed the 3 year mark, so far ok.
I have matured to avoid appliances with displays - wonders, as if I should sit in the bathroom and replace the washing machine with a TV
Why do I need 18 washing programmes as I use 2 and sometimes a 3rd every day.
The simpler the appliance, the better. But that is my opinion.

Btw. I also found this ZELMER, it is exactly the model ZEW 10E20PL.

Out of curiosity, not available in the "bigger" markets, warranty 5 years.
On the other hand, from the reviews (I'm not convinced, just as with the AMICA washing machine), it is manufactured in Poland on the same line as Bosch and supposedly replaceable bearings.
Is anyone able to verify this?

My post from 2008 when I was suffering with Amica. https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1152033.html In the end I gave my parents but I put in a second programmer used, they run after the bathroom but they are still happy because they used to have Tamata made in Czechoslovakia. In this one of the plus that the bearings in the meantime had to change and the drum is unscrewable. Then I had the 6th sense of Whirpool, the bearings that gave such a small that maybe 4 kg would last. There was an attempt to replace them, cut the tank and its gluing, but together with the water got to them. In the end I took Miele W2241 from http://www.agd-wro.pl/?kontakt and this has been working for more than 5 years and in total has 11 and so far no charges. It's just that my spine sat down - 100 kg weighs! but at least its spinning is not terrible.
I will add that when it comes to friends Amica I saw a newer model and had similar problems with spinning as old. As if the housing changed and the programmer was still the same.
In my Amica, February on the programmer's board cracked and the paths could burn out or go blue, and the chip could be replaced.

Zelmer's story is not different. Zelmer saved himself from falling and divided into three parts. Zelmer SA, Zelmer Market, Zelmer sp. Z o. O. The last two brands are mostly Chinese production, some of them older Bosch technology.
After some time, these three companies again created one whole, after which Bosch bought the entire share issue package.

AMICA sold for approx. PLN 200 million PLN two factories: washing machines and refrigerators. The contract was finalized in 2010.

freak82 wrote:

btw. I also found this ZELMER, it is exactly the ZEW 10E20PL model

Out of curiosities, not available in "larger" stores, a 5-year warranty.
However, the opinion shows (I am not convinced of them, just as in the case of the AMICA washing machine), that it is manufactured in Poland on the same line as Bosch and probably interchangeable bearings.
Is anyone able to verify this?

I do not know how this cited model but ZEW 10N00PL has interchangeable bearings. The 5-year warranty, as per the warranty card, was only offered for washing machines purchased by the end of 2017.

I recommend one of the models of LG washing machines At present, in the family we have from 4 washing machines of this company that work without a problem. Engines in the washing machines have a 10-year warranty and the ability to replace bearings

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I will not buy anything there), now I have samsung ecobubble for Ok 3.5tys it works 3 years without problems, although I heard a lot of good things about lg and Bosch washing machines.

I subscribe to what Glorus wrote, the service a tragedy, I also promised them I would never buy anything from them again.

Glorus wrote:

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I would not buy anything there again), currently I have a Samsung ecobubble for about 3.5 thousand, it works for 3 years without problems, although I have heard a lot of good things about LG and Bosch washing machines.

I am currently repairing a 2006 Whirpool. How's Samsung since then? In the meantime there was an apron, maybe a bearing I don't remember and now brushes to be replaced.

In the context of Amici, I got a damaged kitchen, I wanted them to replace the oven chamber as it was cracked from new with missing enamel on the back. They beat me. 2 years ago I put PLN 650 into it as the owner was stubborn and I didn't get anything with them either.

dejfit wrote:

Glorus wrote:

I do not recommend Amica because of the service (I swore I would not buy anything there again), currently I have a Samsung ecobubble for about 3.5 thousand, it works for 3 years without problems, although I have heard a lot of good things about LG and Bosch washing machines.

I am currently repairing a 2006 Whirpool. How's Samsung since then? In the meantime there was an apron, maybe a bearing I don't remember and now brushes to be replaced.

In the context of Amici, I got a damaged kitchen, I wanted them to replace the oven chamber as it was cracked from new with missing enamel on the back. They beat me. 2 years ago I put PLN 650 into it as the owner was stubborn and I didn't get anything with them either.

In Samsung, I replaced the bearing and recently the water pump, it wasn't too expensive and the washing machine continues to run like crazy, as for Amici, the oven died from me and the repair was half the value

I was better. We bought an ELEKTROLUX washing machine for a summer house
by the sea, because the wife has a company, so she took an invoice to reflect the costs
The washing machine was used maybe 15-20 times in the summer when we were at the seaside.
The second year after winter, when we came to the seaside, the bearings were very noisy.
I called the service and you say that the warranty ended 3 days ago, because the equipment for the company is only 12 months old and not 24 as it is under warranty.

After cutting the tank, it turned out that the brass sleeve on the cross was cracked with a gap of about 1.5mm, which caused a leak, which caused the bearings to rust over the winter. I suppose it was a factory defect that came out after the winter when the washing machine was not used. They specially release such junk that will withstand the warranty and then deal with it yourself.

That's why he revives old equipment, because he didn't want anything from me for so many years. Also, I don't know what to buy.
In the context of Amici ovens. There are usually 3 heaters, a function switch and possibly a programmer. As a rule, everything does not fly at once. I made a convection heater and it cost about PLN 50. Another time, probably the function switch for someone also came out about 40-50.

When the washing machine is switched on, it shows 1:45 a.m. I want to set a different programme - it squeaks and it is the same time. It won't turn on. How do I fix this?

The programmer is dead.