Program for Designing Apartment Electrical Installations: Wire Distribution & AutoCAD Alternatives

Hello.
I am looking for a program to design an electrical installation in an apartment. Specifically, I mean the distribution of wires in the walls. What I found allows circuit design in principle, but not wireform design. There is some such program or AutoCAD remains and drawing everything by hand.

From designing the distribution of ducts in the walls, it is the designer or the contractor, not the program.

CAD Electrical SEE Building LT Installation Drawing. Automatically changes cable lengths when elements are moved. You can export the contours of the building walls from AutoCAD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQFq7jrL_V4

There remains AutoCad or ... an experienced electrician. I personally have not heard about such a program, it is even better if there is a program that will put these wires, I buy it immediately .
But seriously, how can the program know what the building and / or flat are, etc., what the layout of windows, doors, chimneys, CO and a few more things on the construction site.
Before you enter this data, I am already halfway there

I am talking about the program, such as PRO100 for interior design. I draw walls and then I play arranging furniture. I would like the same here. I draw walls and I draw cables.

The PAJAK software, version 2.8, is intended for the design of low voltage installations and their protection in TN networks. Free download.
If you meant separately.
http://www.moeller.pl/DesktopDefault.aspx?PageID=355
Apparently, we automation and computer scientists must stick to help out of nowhere.

Hello.
And can't there be a program for drawing electronic / electrical schematics or creating printed circuit boards? After adding your own libraries, instead of, for example, a power outlet, you would have a power outlet. Of course, such a solution would require a considerable amount of work to create these libraries. I suggest you read, for example, about the possibilities of KiCAD.
Greetings.
Matthew.

Buster wrote:

There is some such program, does AutoCAD remain and draw everything by hand.

There is even a free (probably not the only one) www.pcschematic.com.pl
He will see if he meets your assumptions.

The possibilities are:

"DRAFT ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION PLAN - draw a draft electrical installation plan:
- drawing the installation plan,
- information about elements and lines retrieved from the database,
- cable lengths, drawing at different heights, calculating cable lengths,
- creating parts lists, updating the table of contents of the project, "

The limitations are:

"The provided programs are full versions, with no function limitations. You can draw a simple project, save it and print it.
PC | SCHEMATIC Automation
The number of symbols that can be placed in one project (maximum 40) and the number of project pages (maximum 10) are limited. After these limits are exceeded, you can continue working, but you will not be able to save your project. Additionally, the attached database is only a fragment of the database that is commercially available. "

Simple operation like building a flail, help and documentation from what I associate is "our way".

I had another one, but now I can't remember the name. It was also free for small projects, they gave me the full cd version at the fair. As soon as I manage to find it at home, I will write it. Maybe someone will still need it.

Good luck!

Hello!

Today, projects with marked cable routes are a thing of the past, especially when there is no coordination between industries.
Most often it is not.
The location of luminaires and equipment, as well as switching stations, or cable trays, if any, is sufficient.
The decision on where to route the cables should be left to the contractor (supervision inspector), who will make arrangements with representatives of other industries on the construction site.
The fact that someone carries these routes is very often "making happy" by force.

I see people don't read posts well ... To the author of the topic - don't download KiCad, Schematic or Pajak. You won't do what you want in them. Unfortunately, I don't know a program for drawing lines on walls.

See Electrical, See building, Planelec in these programs you draw lines, but the view is only from the top plan.
There is an All Plan program where you have a 3D view and it is possible to plan electrical installations, but I don't remember if it is possible to plan cable routes.
There are also MagiCAD and Autodesk Revit MEP, which are used to design not only cable routes, but also water and sewage, ventilation, fire protection, etc.

Enough.