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Connecting Junkers WRDP 14 2B Gas Stove to 130 Diameter Pipe with Coupler

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  • #1 10172468
    paw.m
    Level 9  
    Hello
    I have a stove junkers wrdp 14 2b, where the diameter on the pipe is 130. To this I bought a pipe, diameter 130 and here there was a problem. Namely, how to connect the pipe with the stove ? I should add that I bought a coupler (130) and as much as possible it fits in the hole to the stove, however, in no way can I put in it a pipe for exhaust gas to the chimney. (As an aside, I should add that I have a spiro pipe). The pipe enters only a small piece into the coupler (ie, about 0.5 - 1 cm), which is definitely not enough.
    Did anyone have a similar problem, and how did they deal with the above ?
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  • #2 10172569
    Przepraszamy, ale ta nazw
    Level 13  
    paw.m wrote:
    Has anyone had a similar problem, and how did they deal with the above ?
    You can deal with it very easily - hire a competent person....
  • #3 10172770
    paw.m
    Level 9  
    I would sometimes prefer to look for solutions and advice in different sources and save 100 or 200 zloty.
  • #4 10172801
    Przepraszamy, ale ta nazw
    Level 13  
    The most important thing is to save 100PLN, or you will gas the whole family with chad without knowing what you are doing.
  • #5 10172904
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    The pipe is inserted directly into the stove (into this spigot, which is permanently installed in the stove). For this type of stove, no intermediate couplers are needed (while for the smaller Junkers, an adapter is given, as it has a spigot for a pipe of 110 mm. diameter, and this stove, which is in this topic, has a spigot of 130 mm. diameter). The spiro pipe has a diameter of 125 mm. as the manufacturers of this pipe probably give the inner diameter (but the outer diameter is about 130 mm.).
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  • #6 10172935
    paw.m
    Level 9  
    Precisely the snag is that the pipe did not want to go directly into the stove, which was even stated by the gas engineer installing the stove for me. For this reason, I am looking for a solution to the situation.

    On a side note, as to the words of the earlier speaker, don't worry about my health and that of my family, because I am aware of the danger of chad.
  • #7 10173300
    valdimazur
    Level 17  
    For the model 14 2B is suitable for a pipe with a diameter of 135, it overlaps tightly on the outside of the stove's flue outlet spigot. Without any reductions.
  • #8 10173479
    paw.m
    Level 9  
    valdimazur thanks for the advice. Only again (problems themselves) I have newly installed plates and cut a hole for a 130 mm diameter pipe. Is there possibly a 135 - 130 reducer ?
  • #9 10173696
    valdimazur
    Level 17  
    I understand that you have attached to the wall a metal rosette with a diameter of 130 , This rosette can probably be taken out and put a larger one , or if there is no rosette then enlarge the hole in the wall a little ( you need 5 mm on the diameter ), or cut along a little spiro pipe reduce its diameter and push it into the existing hole.
  • #10 10173770
    DonRomano
    Level 34  
    paw.m wrote:
    The snag is that the pipe did not want to go directly into the stove, which was even stated by the gas fitter installing the stove for me. For this reason, I am looking for a solution to the situation.

    By the way, as to the words of an earlier speaker, do not worry about my health and my family, because I realize the danger of chad.



    If you knew the danger, you would not install, I think, aluminum spiro pipe.
    Such pipes are approved only for ventilation and not for flue gas.
    Have not many people poisoned themselves?
  • #11 10174349
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    valdimazur wrote:
    For the model 14 2B is suitable for a tube with a diameter of 135, it fits tightly on the outside of the stove exhaust. Without any reductions.
    It is supposed to be a 125 mm. spiro, which enters exactly inside the spigot (this pipe is called 125 mm., because that's how much me inner diameter, and the outer has 130mm.). The spigot is spelled the same as the short one, that is, with an ó!!!
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  • #12 10175885
    paw.m
    Level 9  
    DonRomano, I do not have an aluminum pipe, but a pipe of acid-resistant steel (otherwise - flex type). This pipe meets the requirements and can be safely used.

    Other users thank you sincerely for your advice.
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  • #13 10177562
    DonRomano
    Level 34  
    And that is very sorry. :D .
  • #14 12180586
    Mario029
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    The house I moved into has a Saunierduval 8.6-19.2 KW gas flow heater. I need to change the flue pipe and choose its diameter. The stove has a flue hole fi 110, behind it is added an expansion ring to fi 130 and to the chimney leads a pipe fi 130.
    I will be changing the pipe to acid-resistant flex. What should I choose the diameter of the duct, is 110 enough ? (this is the hole in the stove before expansion)
  • #15 12183987
    mirrzo

    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Φ110 provided (calculated)by the manufacturer, then such use. Decent manufacturers offer adapters from the outside diameter of the spiro to the inside diameter of the draft breaker.
  • #16 16790747
    serek5555
    Level 12  
    Gentlemen I have a Saunier Duval C11 Opalia gas stove and for it is required a flue pipe fi 110 to the inside of the stub.
    I have such a pipe and for nothing wants to enter completely.
    Acid resistant flue pipe is put on by some method?

    Thank you.
  • #17 16836823
    maciejkao
    Level 13  
    If you give the smoke pipe to the inside of the stove's chimney socket, then there will be opportunities for flue gases to flow out into the room. You need to give the smoke pipe to the outside of the flange of the stove's chimney socket, then you will protect yourself from exhaust gas leaks. What matters is the direction of the flow of the medium, in chimney installations it is the opposite of sewer systems, because in the latter the "medium" flows naturally, i.e. downwards. Each successive section of the smoke pipe is supposed to overlap the previous one, not go into it, to put it in the simplest terms. The flue gases from a gas stove do not have any great pressure, and no great sealing is necessary, as long as the elements go well into their sockets. Remember, too, that the horizontal section of the smoke pipe must have the appropriate minimum rise and not too long, this is, by the way, specified in the standards, from what I remember, depends on the diameter of the smoke pipe, and also the manufacturer of stoves also certainly has this matter restrictions.
  • #18 16837153
    r103
    Level 36  
    maciejkao wrote:
    If you give the smoke pipe to the inside of the stove's chimney socket, there will be opportunities for flue gases to flow out into the room. You need to give the smoke pipe to the outside of the flange of the stove's chimney socket, then you will protect yourself from exhaust leaks. What matters is the direction of the flow of the medium, in chimney installations is the opposite of sewer installations, because in the latter the "medium" flows naturally, i.e. downwards. Each successive section of the flue pipe is supposed to overlap the previous one, not go into it, to put it in the simplest terms j. The exhaust from a gas stove does not have any great pressure, and no great sealing is necessary, as long as the elements go well into their sockets. Remember, too, that the horizontal section of the smoke pipe must have the appropriate minimum rise and not too long, this is, by the way, specified in the standards, from what I remember, depends on the diameter of the smoke pipe, and also the manufacturer of stoves also certainly has this matter restrictions.


    Read again with understanding what I wrote -. means in a sewer system it is the other way around - each successive section enters the preceding one :lol: .
  • #19 16840491
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    In these stoves (junkers wrdp 14 2b) it is so that the "draft breaker" has a double spigot - in it there is also (with a height of less than 1 centimeter) a second spigot with a slightly smaller diameter. So, as you put in this pipe with fi (inner) 125 mm (that is, the outer diameter of 130 mm.)-this shortest spigot goes into the pipe and the slightly longer one (a few centimeters) covers the pipe from the outside. Surely the pipe made of acid is better (as if the stove was unregulated, operated at a power higher than the nominal, and there would be a completely burnt-out heater, then the exhaust gas can be much hotter than the stove manufacturer predicted - I met with something like this in the case of an unregulated PG-6 with a burnt-out heater, where even the normal sheet metal pipe burnt out).
  • #20 18345331
    dawidkle
    Level 11  
    what diameter fi pipe for exhaust is in junkers wrp11 b23?
    thanks in advance for info
  • #21 18346208
    maciejkao
    Level 13  
    Measure or check the manual. It is certainly standardized.
  • Topic summary

    The discussion revolves around connecting a Junkers WRDP 14 2B gas stove to a 130 mm diameter exhaust pipe. The user faces challenges with the connection, as the purchased coupler does not allow the pipe to fit securely into the stove's flue outlet. Responses suggest that the stove is designed for a 135 mm pipe, which fits over the flue outlet without the need for couplers. Some users recommend checking the installation of the spiro pipe, as it may have an outer diameter of 130 mm but an inner diameter of 125 mm. Concerns about using aluminum spiro pipes for flue gas are raised, with suggestions to use acid-resistant steel pipes instead. The conversation also touches on the importance of proper installation to prevent gas leaks and ensure safety.
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