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Matte foil for a notebook - how to get rid of the glare matrix

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  • #1
    KSRhaziel
    Level 36  
    A friend bought a notebook for the first time in a long time. He had not dealt with a shiny matrix before and he chose one. Now, however, he gets mad because he is not able to use it when he bounces back. He is even ready to sell a notebook and buy another one. So I thought that I would somehow end his suffering.

    I have heard about matte foils slightly reducing the effect of the glare matrix. I found one for Apple products - ClearCal - http://www.radtech.us/Products/ClearCal-Displays.aspx. However, they do not have a version for "regular" notebooks. Even if I somehow matched it to the 15.6 "notebook in the panorama, this overlay cannot be seen on sale in Poland.

    There are many topics in google and even on the electrode, but a lot of links have expired, or they are fruitless discussions. Somehow I can't find anything like that on Allegro - maybe I'm looking for something wrong? And somehow I do not believe that such a simple product is so difficult to obtain. So, does anyone know where to get such a matte notebook foil?
  • #2
    dr.master
    Level 39  
    See offer no.2067942666 on alle. Ew, ask the seller if he can arrange something like that for you.
  • #3
    _haker_1
    Level 32  
    It's a pity - it's better to buy a matte matrix and sell a glossy one. If you get a used one, it will come out as much as you lose on the parcel.
  • #4
    mondo_09
    Level 16  
    Matting foil? Pity as above. The effect is not only weak, it will only lose the image quality. The second thing is assembly. With such a large surface of the matrix, it will be hard to prevent any "dust" from getting between the foil and the matrix during assembly ...
  • #5
    marek-zarzycki
    Level 27  
    Someone could justify why the glossy matrix is so popular? I cannot find any benefits in this and only two come to my mind:

    1. Everything that glitters is more attractive than what is not glitter. Shiny is "new" and elegant.
    2. Because the matte matrix is better, then you can travel the same computer model that will have it.
  • #6
    rozan99
    Level 16  
    I was always wondering why something that was good was changed into it * thanks to which during the day you can not see anything on the matrix and you can correct your hairstyle in the mirror.
    Marketing and punching is behind it, I don't see anything else.
  • #7
    michał3411_2007
    Level 29  
    marek-zarzycki wrote:
    Someone could justify why the glossy matrix is so popular? I cannot find any benefits in this and only two come to my mind:

    1. Everything that glitters is more attractive than what is not glitter. Shiny is "new" and elegant.
    2. Because the matte matrix is better, then you can travel the same computer model that will have it.


    I have a shiny IPS, and I praise myself, I would not change it into a matte one in my life.
    ad2. Who friend said that mat is better?
  • #8
    rozan99
    Level 16  
    michał3411_2007 wrote:
    Who friend said that mat is better?

    I read somewhere that it is more expensive to produce, if this is the case, it must be better. And since the customer prefers everything that is the cheapest, shiny and looks nice on a store shelf, it is obvious why the producers have switched to the production of "mirrors"
  • #9
    Endrju111
    Level 23  
    Colors are better visible on glossy, everything is sharper and more saturated, it is easier to get higher contrast and darker blacks (in matte, the light falling on the matrix diffuses in the matte layer), besides, it is easier (and probably cheap) to produce a glossy film than a perfectly even matte one, and it is also easier to keep clean.
  • #10
    michał3411_2007
    Level 29  
    If your colleagues read more nonsense, it will stay that way.
    Mat as you want to use outside, because they were the cheapest in production, and nothing has changed, but more important is what kind of TN, MVA, IPS matrix, now all the cheapest ones are made shiny ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY because they are TN type matrices and they reflect colors the worst, so glass should be as saturated as possible.
  • #11
    marek-zarzycki
    Level 27  
    michał3411_2007 wrote:
    ad2. Who friend said that mat is better?

    I have a comparison. Two laptops, one of which is a marketer with a glossy matrix and the other is an IBM T43. The matte one in a 6-year-old computer is much better than the "flash" in a modern one. But it is surely, as @ michał3411_2007 wrote, that it is a matter of matrix technology in which TN reflects colors better through the "flash" matrix.

    Although I do not know what the difference is in favor of this TN, because the image in IBM is really razor-sharp, great colors, no smudging, etc. I will not mention the colors. But surely the TN is cheaper to produce ...
  • #12
    rocq666
    Level 10  
    How do I compare the image on the old IBM T42 vs the new HP with flash ... the naturalness of the colors speaks for IBM, but the sharpness for HP.
    You can work with the reflection, I don't mind a lot, even though it's my first such screen.

    An idea with foil ... well, it is not easy to stick it on a cell with a display above 3 ", let alone 15" +.

    It is proposed to get used to, millions of people work on such a matrix :)
  • #13
    pawel01
    Level 24  
    It bothers me terribly when something is reflected on the screen. I have a Compaq armade and a Samsung rv520, it is perfectly visible on this Armada under the sun and not very much on Samsung and everything reflects like a mirror. I also wanted to buy this foil, but as it was written above, it is difficult to stick it and air bubbles will remain. And is it going to get a matte 15.6 "matrix ??
  • #14
    Endrju111
    Level 23  
    It is possible, although much less matt on the market.
    Enter the matrix model, it will be possible to check whether a mat replacement is available.
  • #15
    Czasami
    Level 17  
    I have a Compaq with a matte matrix and for a long time I have been trying to compare the image displayed by it with those on glossy matrices. In all respects, the picture on my Compaq is better. I also cannot understand what "guided" the producers when they introduced glossy matrices to the market. And tablets are a complete misconception. For example, an iPad on the outside can only be used as a mirror. Well, unless someone has a vision of creating images from fingerprints on the screen. Maybe that's why this product is called visionary ...
  • #16
    nfm
    Level 11  
    A matte coating does not necessarily blur the image - if there is very close pixels, the blur is practically invisible.

    And here comes the problem with sticky matte coatings - they are separated from pixels by a layer of plastic or glass.

    A good matte coating has an advantage in very bright rooms, while in heavily darkened rooms it has virtually no effect on the image. In the special case, when it is bright, but still there are almost no reflections, it can reduce the contrast. For example, a monitor with a reflective coating and side lighting with a lamp in an otherwise dark room may give better results, because a matte one would cause "fog" from the lamp.

    There is also such a thing as a semi-matte coating where glare is present but has no sharp boundaries.

    In conclusion, the choice of coating is a matter of preference. Personally, I like monitors with a matte coating, which compensate for it with a contrast. But contrast monitors, on the other hand, are more expensive. Maybe that's why, as my colleagues noticed, better monitors have matte coatings.
  • #18
    Primen
    Level 15  
    I had laptops, including dv6700, pa 2548, hp 2133, now I have an ibm x60t with a screen and I would never change from a glare again. Not only does it work well outdoors, but also my eyes don't hurt like it does in the case of glare. :)
  • #20
    miniu82
    Level 1  
    Hello

    The matte matrix in my HP note started to make me so passionate that I started to think about getting rid of it - I'm happy with the rest of the computer. However, replacing the note with a newer configuration with a matte matrix effectively repelled me. I decided to take a risk and instead of PLN 3 I spent PLN 40 on glasser max matting foil on Allegro.

    In the first attempt I caught a lot of air and dust particles under the foil (too fast application of the foil). Manual removal of the bubbles removed roughly half of them and significantly reduced another one. However, where the dust was, the air still stuck. Fortunately, a second foil was included. By tearing off the first foil, I got rid of 90% of the particles from the matrix, which could not be removed earlier with LCD foam. At the moment I have foil and 5 micro ferns under the foil. If you do not have intrusions or do not work with graphics, it will not bother you in anything. I cut the foil used the day before and secured my smartphone because the previous foil was not matting.

    As for the result of matting the matrix, I am very pleased, previously I had a problem with the normal use of the note while sitting with my back to the window, at the moment the problem is completely absent. In my case, I am completely satisfied with the operation.
  • #21
    mkpl
    Level 37  
    Your approach is strange. I have a Toshiba A200 with a glossy matrix and a laptop positioned in such a way that the light reflects from it under a fairly large contrast (side to the window) and it works brilliantly with contrast and colors.

    The HP mini 2133 also has a shiny one and the additional foil worked brilliantly.
    I have a matte in Toshiba Satelite Pro 4300, here it is perfect, although the colors are less cool.
    However, when it comes to working under the light, the Panasonic TouchBook is an old 300MHz and 192 frames, but the matrix when it comes to working in the sun has a razor. There is a glossy matrix and a matting glass above it with a touch. Generally, it is able to use sunlight as backlight and you can see everything clearly. Why don't they do that in the new?
  • #22
    Czasami
    Level 17  
    miniu82 wrote:
    The matte matrix in my HP note started to make me so passionate that I started to think about getting rid of it - I'm happy with the rest of the computer.


    And what were the disadvantages of this matte matrix? I have a Compaq (almost HP) with a matte matrix and I will not turn into a glossy laptop for nothing. The difference in image quality is staggering. You can forget about working on a laptop with a glossy matrix outside of buildings.

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    mkpl wrote:
    However, when it comes to working under the light, the Panasonic TouchBook is an old 300MHz and 192 frames, but the matrix when it comes to working in the sun has a razor. There is a glossy matrix and a matting glass above it with a touch. Generally it is able to use sunlight as backlight and you can see everything clearly. Why don't they do that in the new?


    First, this Panasonic is probably called the ToughBook. Secondly, it is enough to check its price, and it will be clear why in cheaper laptops "they don't do that".
  • #23
    morfi80
    Level 2  
    Could someone tell me if there is any point in buying anti-reflective foil, I mean that the screen does not reflect the harsh sunlight reflected from the wall of the house? So that I can work outside the home on sunny days.

    And the second question is whether such films are suitable for each type and size of the screen?

    I have an Acer laptop with a 15.5 inch glossy screen.
  • #24
    Atreyu Makiavel
    Level 34  
    Self-action is more likely that the effect will not satisfy you. However, what a factory is a factory. Personally, I would never go back to glare since I first met matte.