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Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

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  • #1 10847738
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    Hello.
    I have a SAMSUNG TV set, model: LE40A656A1F.

    Multicolored stripes appear on the TV matrix, half of the screen is obscured by them. Sometimes after the receiver is turned on (once every 10 turns on), the image is generally correct (there are vertical lines in places - depending on the scene displayed on the screen) - the following photos present this situation:

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    If the TV starts up with a working screen - this condition lasts all the time - the screen (TV) works properly.

    However, in most cases on the LCD matrix, after turning on the TV, there are stripes shown in the photos below:

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)


    After opening the housing, I cleaned the contacts on the ends of any tapes exiting the controller into the matrix with a contact cleaner. However, it did not bring any improvement.

    I am surprised that the TV sometimes starts up correctly - if it had a driver / matrix defect - such a situation would rather not occur.

    The operation of the TV is not affected by temperature changes - if turned on correctly - it worked for up to an hour. I tried to change the temperature with the freezer near the tapes - to no avail.

    I wonder what could be causing this problem. What else can I check?

    edition.

    I attach a photo of electronics:

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    I can also add that the stripes (when the TV starts up correctly) - dominate the brighter displayed images.
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  • #2 10847782
    obcy7
    User under supervision
    Quote:
    What else can I check?


    You've basically done everything that can be checked at home.
  • #3 10847827
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    On the Internet I read that on these TVs:

    "standard matrices were used - Ultra Clear Panel
    S-PVA 4ms
    (Super-PVA technology)
    (Made in Slovakia,
    From what I was able to find out, these are all
    matrix models,
    produced by Slovaks (2008/2009) had
    hidden flaw
    technological in the fact that after certain
    normal time
    operation of the TV (several months, one year, two years or
    something similar) of the tape
    signals (so-called flexes) lost connection
    controlling row drivers
    which is routed along glass paths
    matrix.
    The Samsung company absolutely does not want to do it
    Admittedly, TVs mostly after the warranty
    suitable for junk "

    source: http://nt.interia.pl/audio-wideo/news/sony-wy...ilionow-telewizorow/komojny,1706976,,39482638

    Is there a way to repair the matrix (it's probably her fault)? When it comes to buying a working one, it is very hard to find ...

    Added after 20 [minutes]:

    I would also like to add that when the TV set worked for over an hour - each time it turns on without stripes on half the screen (there are single lines depending on the scene).
    I thought to unscrew the dies and find the lack of connection on the glass and possibly attach (reduce the contact resistance) to it with a tape using, for example, conductive glue. But is it possible to find such a place at all? Maybe something would help to heat the matrix in these places to a high temperature?

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    The matrix is: ltf400hc01
  • #5 10847991
    obcy7
    User under supervision
    Quote:
    Look at the power supply, maybe just that


    You must have taken something fox today? The symptoms as in the pictures ??? I guess you'll have to protest again. May it be longer this time ... :)

    Will this forum ever be normal, and thus I am unemployed?
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  • #6 10848204
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    I got into the matrix, tried to exert pressure at the points of contact of the tape with the screen, additionally checked other connections - no changes. Maybe it is not the fault of the matrix?
  • #7 10848259
    obcy7
    User under supervision
    Quote:
    Maybe it is not the fault of the matrix?


    It may also be like that.
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  • #8 10848408
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    If I disrupt the data flow by removing for a moment one of the tapes connecting the controller with the matrix systems during the operation of the system, then I will put the tape back in the slot - the image looks like in the first photos in the first post if the TV is properly turned on.
    obcy7 wrote:
    It may also be like that.

    what else can you check? the TV schematic cannot be found ...

    Added after 43 [minutes]:

    Or maybe it is the motherboard controlling the matrix that is to blame - the graphics processor? Maybe there was a cold February under it? Because if this was a problem of flex, there should be some changes after pressing the tapes against the glass with your finger - but there are no changes here.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    In addition, in places where there are stripes in the image - the colors are very saturated, especially red ...
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    #9 10848577
    imperpl
    Level 24  
    The matrix is 100% damaged. It remains to repair the matrix (cross-linking connections).
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    #10 10849309
    obcy7
    User under supervision
    Quote:
    what else can you check? the TV schematic cannot be found ...


    The diagram will not help at all, because what is needed is simply not there. What else can you check? Well, the tension on the t-con, though, and you will delete the TV after it.

    Quote:
    It remains to repair the matrix (cross-linking connections).

    And in a moment he will play another ...
  • #11 10851542
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    imperpl wrote:
    It remains to repair the matrix (cross-linking connections).

    Is such a repair possible at home? How can you find a break in connections on glass, of which there are many? No money will be invested in the TV anymore - it will be disposed of, but before that, it may be worth trying something else with this matrix, even if it may result in damage. ... Should we expect no contact between the glass and the tape adjacent to it, or in the tracks sprayed on the glass? Then such broken circuits could be joined with conductive varnish / glue ...
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    #12 10851755
    Jakant
    Level 35  
    Why so much writing, if you are not going to follow the advice given. A lot of posts have been written about this matrix. This describes how to make connections. Read a little and follow the steps that are described. Do not combine with conductive varnish, just use a patch.
  • #13 10852097
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    Jakant wrote:
    A lot of posts have been written about this matrix. The way of making connections is described.

    And if you could ask for a link to these posts. Because I was looking for the electrode on the forum and in the search engine - I did not find a description of the repair ...
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    #14 10852178
    Jakant
    Level 35  
    Enter "delayed vision" in the search engine and you will find the topic you are interested in. The removal of your fault is the same as the one with delayed vision.
  • #15 10852522
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    In the topic related to the problem of delayed vision, I found a photo showing the description of the relevant points on the belt with the driver.

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/files-rtvforum/bez_tytu_u_1716.jpg

    however, I have a different distribution -

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly) Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)


    So I have to check with an ohmmeter whether the appropriate points (what?) On the driver tapes (tapes coming out of a given board - 1 board -> 8 tapes) are properly connected to a given point on the PCB?

    Added after 2 [hours] 29 [minutes]:

    Without describing these points on the tape, I will probably do nothing ...

    Added after 2 [hours] 40 [minutes]:

    I made the measurements - none of the points on the tape with the driver has a connection with the measurement points on the PCB ... Is there a connection description to check them?
  • #16 10853432
    liga
    Level 12  
    Hello, It's good that I found your post because 2 days ago I did exactly the same with the same Samsung model. For me, after turning on the cold TV, this single-color strip appears on 3/4 of the screen and nothing can be watched and set in the menu. How the TV works in this mode for a few minutes until it warms up, then when I turn it off and on, it turns on in "pseudo-normal" mode (you can watch and change something in the menu, but there are still those colored vertical stripes on the brighter points of the screen). Today, after unscrewing the TV, I cleaned the connectors and tapes from T-con, but to no avail. I did a simple test, namely I turned on the turned on TV when it was cold and of course it turned on with this strip on 3/4 of the screen. then I quickly turned off the processors on T-con with a hair dryer for about 2 minutes and after that the TV turned on in "pseudo normal" mode. I plan to do 2 more things before trying to mount the new T-con module. 1. Voltage measurement on T-con (I saw a photo on the electrode somewhere with marked points and voltages, but I have to dig into it again) 2. Do pseudo rebaling of processors in BGA casings. It is a bit of a garage method, but when done well, it brings results (tested on HP laptops :-) )). The idea is to heat up with a heat gun the places where processors are mounted in BGA housings on the T-con board and then, under the influence of heat, the processor settles firmly on the BGA tin balls. You have to do it quite delicately so as not to overheat the processor and blow out small SMD components. It is best to cover the processors (in our case, 2 pcs) with aluminum foil to protect the adjacent components and then heat the processors with a heat gun (without heat sinks and rubber bands, of course, because they will melt), then wait until it cools down and reinstall the plate on the TV. If it does not work, I will take the risk and replace the new T-con (cost about PLN 200 - checked used) as it turns out that the matrix will be PLN 200 in the back and in the dark d .... spitting on Samsung quality (the TV is over 2.5 years old) ) but you can always sell it for parts and collect for a new TV (from the competition). I will do my tests with the heat gun only on Monday because now I do not have access to the equipment. If you try to do the above steps, let me know how it turned out, because I'm curious myself. If there are any experienced service technicians here who have encountered a similar case, it will be very nice to say (maybe I'm going with my ideas not in this direction, but for now that's the only thing that comes to my mind). Regards
  • #17 10854379
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    liga wrote:
    I plan to do 2 more things before trying to install a new T-con module. 1

    Please inform about the results of these treatments.

    I will try to measure the tensions on the T-con tomorrow. In this case, it is rather the fault of the matrix, you will have to check if the paths are broken / there is no current flow around the drivers and the circuit tapes attached to them.
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    #18 10854414
    liga
    Level 12  
    Hello,

    I'll let you know when I'm done with it all.
    Found a link to a thread with a photo of T-con and tensions.

    Link to the page

    Good luck and best regards,
  • #19 10855352
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    liga wrote:
    I turned off the T-con processors and heated them with a hair dryer for about 2 minutes and after this treatment the TV turned on in "pseudo normal" mode

    I increased the temperature on the T-con to about 80-90 degrees, but no changes occurred. I am about to measure the voltages on the module.

    Added after 37 [minutes]:

    I measured the tensions - in the figure below I have described them in black, italic font.

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    They are all normal, apart from that on the capacitor - it should be -5.9V relative to ground, I have -7.55V.
    Does such a deviation indicate a malfunction of the system?
    The voltages were measured by a good quality measuring tape.
  • #20 10855595
    imperpl
    Level 24  
    Leave that T-CON alone, the connections between the TABs and the side drivers are a mess. You have to look for the cause there.
  • #21 10855605
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    A moment ago, while the TV was working, I unfastened the Tcon tape going to the matrix drivers, located maximally to the left (according to this figure):
    https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/1895909700_1335957808.jpg

    The picture is clear, without any stripes or distortions - as it was before this fault occurred.
    This state continues until the TV is turned off. When the TV is turned off and then on again - the stripes reappear. However, when I unfasten this tape during TV operation - then one time such continuous unfastening (i.e. releasing the plastic lever pressing the tape to the connector) / inserting the tape (pressing the tape with the lever in the connector) I hit the moment when the image is correct again (sometimes it is dimmed to half the screen) - as a last resort, after such changes I get a correct, clear picture, but until the TV is turned off. So it is rather the fault of the matrix systems. What could it be caused by? Is it that a driver is not properly powered / there is a break in connections between it and other structures? How to detect it? In the topic of delayed vision, photos of driver tapes with marked points were shown, between which and the appropriate areas on the PCB should be a connection, the existence of which should be checked. However, in my case there is a completely different distribution of these points (which are not described).
    How can you tell if there is a connection interruption in this case?
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    #22 10855654
    imperpl
    Level 24  
    I don't know how to explain it more bluntly. On the sideways you have unlabeled points, at the top you have the points described. Now it only remains to find where the connection is missing.
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  • #23 10856042
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    there is a transition to von on the side driver, while none of the pins has a transition to voff.

    Added after 3 [hours] 37 [minutes]:

    I have researched which pins from the driver have connection to the board. Out of the small pads, only one (not taking into account the one that is placed backwards, from which the drain goes directly to the chip) is nowhere connected - it is marked with an arrow. In addition, I did not notice that there were 3 large pads connected anywhere. If I connect the point marked with a red arrow to the voff pin and the connection is wrong (voff is connected to the wrong pin) - will the system not be damaged? Maybe it is better to connect through a resistor, for example 200R?

    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    Added after 16 [minutes]:

    I was looking at the driver on the other side - the voff is connected to the first of the 3 big pads - and the connection has a resistance of 75R. So I have to connect to the pad on the other side, which is in a mirror image?

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    while pad 6, which is marked in the photo with a red arrow, on the other side is connected to the cpv1 point - should I connect the point with the photo similarly? Are the correct points on both sides connected to the same points on the pcb?
  • #24 10860145
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    I checked which connections are broken - compared to the connections between the board and the driver on the other side. I connected the appropriate points with a thin winding wire and the TV set started to work properly. We will see how it will behave in the near future ...
  • #25 10867233
    liga
    Level 12  
    Hello,

    I am still struggling with mine, but so far to no avail. Today I got into the matrix and I wonder where you made these connections with the side drivers.
    When looking at the TV from the matrix side, did you connect the points from the first driver on the top left with the points on the first (out of 16) tape on the left, or maybe you had to make more connections from other drivers?

    If it is possible, I would ask for a photo.

    It's all a bit delicate and I wouldn't want to damage anything with this type of surgery.

    Thanks in advance and regards,
  • #26 10874142
    bipolunipol
    Level 19  
    For me there was a break on the driver on the left side, looking centrally at the matrix. Among others, the voff ending was interrupted (in the photo)

    the first (extended) of the 3 large pads) - you need to check the appropriate points on the PCB with the meter
    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

    which paths go from the driver (follow their guidance) - where there is a break.
    Samsung LE40A656A1F TV - stripes on the screen (sometimes it works properly)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with the Samsung LE40A656A1F TV, specifically the appearance of multicolored stripes on the screen, which sometimes resolves temporarily upon startup. Users suggest that the problem may stem from a known defect in the Ultra Clear Panel S-PVA matrix, where signal flexes lose connection over time. Various troubleshooting steps are discussed, including checking power supply connections, inspecting the T-con board, and measuring voltages. Some users have attempted to repair the matrix by reconnecting broken paths, with mixed results. The consensus leans towards the matrix being damaged, and users share experiences and methods for potential repairs, including using conductive materials and checking connections with an ohmmeter.
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