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Using AWS-143ST Internal Amplifier for DVB-T Television with Collective Antenna in Blocks

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  • #1 11429575
    Tomix C
    Level 13  
    Hello
    As it happens in blocks, there are collective antennas and it is also like that with me. The problem is that the TV does not catch any digital stations, it only receives analog. My guess is there are channel amplifiers or something else.
    How will I use the AWS-143ST internal amplifier, is there a chance that it will work?
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    #2 11429686
    mono12345
    Level 15  
    Hello
    Unfortunately, only the individual antenna remains. You will not receive anything from the collective document. Such an installation, especially the old one, worked on low frequencies (channels) so that the owners of old TV sets could receive several channels. Hey, somehow nobody mentions it in the TV commercials.
    Regards

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Welcome back.
    In some stores (usually small ones) you can get a trial antenna. Without an antenna test - whether it is indoor or outdoor, you will not be sure about the quality of the received signal.
    Regards
  • #3 11429726
    Tomix C
    Level 13  
    I will have to drill a handle near the window, unfortunately, nothing came out of the room antenna all the time jamming. I live 28km from an expensive transmitter in Katowice, namely Zabrze.
    Thanks for the help.
  • #4 11430825
    fidotp
    Level 23  
    If it is not a large block and the neighbors will help, you can convert it at a low cost so that everyone can receive DVB-T
    Take a look at MY topic.

    I did it on my own and all 12 families are satisfied. Those who do not have set-top boxes or new TV sets can still receive the analog.
    Good luck.
    If the cables are ok, the cost is low.
  • #5 11504479
    333mario
    Level 17  
    To put pressure on the building manager to modernize the installations, in the 1980s each new multi-family building was equipped with a collective antenna. Today, 30 years later, I have the impression that we have gone backwards in development, many developers are giving back buildings without an antenna installation, tricking future buyers with automatic gates, security, etc. When a resident moves in, he is greeted by the prospect of a forced cable cable, if any. See what is happening on the facades of buildings, where the forest of antennas appears after the DVB-T start.
  • #6 11504660
    Tomix C
    Level 13  
    When I called the community manager, he told me it was a very high cost to replace the patch antenna and he might give me a phone number for UPS. So I thanked him. I bought a Dext antenna and attached it to the window sill, it is nice. Fidotp wrote that he got along with his neighbors, I would probably not have managed to over 100 residents. Maybe in one riser by some miracle. The truth is that on TV they are honking about dvb-t and these administrators do not give a damn and people have to punch holes in these blocks like these bark beetles to go with civilization and it was enough to modernize the installations a little.
  • #7 11505504
    fidotp
    Level 23  
    Only I was better off because there were only 12 families in the block.
    And modernization is not a great cost, provided the cables are in working order.
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  • #8 12118595
    Kasienka_Wroc
    Level 2  
    Hello everyone and I am begging you for help!

    Unfortunately, I'm completely green on the subject, so forgive me in advance for banal questions:

    I bought a Polsat T-HD 1000 dvb-t decoder. I was tempted by the advertising for the first time - and everything would be beautiful if not for the fact that not all programs are received - TVN, Polsat, Puls, etc. are practically not included. All foreign, TVP and TVP2 , regional is beautiful. It's so strange that on another decoder everything is smashing nice (Viva decoder or something like that) - both work on scart plugs. I thought there was a problem with the cable, so I replaced them with new ones. Nothing, no change. Viva smiga, Polsat no. As it is in the block of flats, we have a collective antenna on the roof, so the question - before I would finally advertise something - what could it be caused by? Is the antenna? Is the decoder defective?

    Thank you very much in advance for your help!
  • #9 12118807
    333mario
    Level 17  
    Unfortunately, this is due to the fact that your collective antenna is set to publicly available DVB-T transmitters working in horizontal polarization. Polsat package does not work because Polsat transmitters work in vertical polarization and are located in a different location. What you are currently receiving is programs broadcast from an ordinary DVB-T transmitter, Polsat's package will not work on such an antenna.
  • #10 12119023
    Kasienka_Wroc
    Level 2  
    Oh gosh, it's a meatball :( it is a pity that they do not inform about such things, just to make money ...

    So what to do? Buy an antenna? What? Should I sell a set-top box?
  • #11 12119086
    333mario
    Level 17  
    If, despite the collective antenna, you have the option of installing an individual antenna for about 60-100 PLN, maybe something at Polsat's point will be offered
    Here is the list of transmitters, please choose the one closest to you:
    MUX 4 transmitters
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  • #12 12119426
    Kasienka_Wroc
    Level 2  
    Oh cool, thank you so much :) and the transmitter is still nearby, so I should be fine ;)
  • #13 12190442
    Kasienka_Wroc
    Level 2  
    I have one more question - the decoder is already picking up mux 1 2 3 nicely, but it does not catch mux 4. so the antenna is necessary (the manager replaced the amplifiers, or something like that on the collective antenna).

    What antenna could I install to receive the mux 4? I have less than 3 km to the nearest transmitter, but a block is 100-200 m in front of me, and I would have to install an antenna on the balcony (penultimate floor of the block)
    will such an antenna catch the signal - http://www.dipol.com.pl/antena_telewzyjna_dipol_3-21-69_dvb-t_A0315.htm

    thank you in advance and best regards!
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  • #14 12615219
    jordanescu
    Level 1  
    Hello
    Could someone answer me one question?

    I live in a 2-year-old block, of course there is also a collective antenna on the roof, which is operated by a separate company. And now there is a digital receiver of programs all over Poland, and I still have an analog one because this company converts digital receiver into analog.

    To have "free" digital TV you have to buy a decoder from this company and pay them PLN 6 a month and with this option it is a decoder without HD

    If you want to have HD, you have to pay for an HD set-top box and pay PLN 21 monthly for something that is generally free in Poland.

    Is it legal at all ??
  • #15 12615791
    kaem
    Level 29  
    It could be expected that companies installing collective antennas, after the start of DVB-T, will change into pay DVB-T operators (envying cable TVs with easy money) ... Because 20 programs for free (in the 21st century) would be a Pole's head knocked over with happiness. Poland, we live in Poland.
    And the German has all his basic FTA programs from satellite and he completely does not understand our problems ...
  • #16 12615973
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    jordanescu wrote:
    Could someone answer me one question?

    I live in a 2-year-old block, of course there is also a collective antenna on the roof, which is operated by a separate company. And now there is a digital receiver of programs all over Poland, and I still have an analog one because this company converts digital receiver into analog.

    To have "free" digital TV you have to buy a decoder from this company and pay them PLN 6 a month and with this option it is a decoder without HD

    If you want to have HD, you have to pay for an HD set-top box and pay PLN 21 monthly for something that is generally free in Poland.

    Is it legal at all ??

    And why should it be illegal, the law does not prohibit such activity, the company made cable TV, they charge for it, they pay taxes on it - everything in accordance with the law, besides, maintaining such cable also costs money, concessions for it, set-top boxes, or all is to be free, because DVB-T is free,
    After all, you usually have more than one TV set in your own home, you also have to buy set-top boxes, and it costs too, to make installations for it, everything costs today, the difference is who you pay for it.
    kaem wrote:
    And the German has all his basic FTA programs from satellite and he completely does not understand our problems ...

    For this state of affairs you can thank: the National Broadcasting Council, the board of TVP, political decision makers ...
  • #17 12616694
    kaem
    Level 29  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    everything is in accordance with the law, besides, the maintenance of such cable also costs, concessions for it, set-top boxes, is it all for free, because DVB-T is free,

    What concessions again? "Mr. Wiesio from Antennas" pays for any concessions? I do not know that antenna installation companies are burdened by broadcasters and copyright owners of programs. Since DVB-T is free for an individual recipient, so is it for "Mr. Wiesia".

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    For this state of affairs you can thank: the National Broadcasting Council, the board of TVP, political decision makers ...

    Ha ha. It's easy to say: "it's not us, it's them over there by the trough." And in my opinion, the reason is the same as the problem with "Mr. Wiesie" and his paid DVB-T: Poles are greedy for money and will squeeze the last penny from a man just because it is not forbidden. Let us not blame everything on politicians, because all the disadvantages of living in Poland begin in the minds and mentality of each of us - an ordinary, gray Pole, who strips every penny off his fellow citizen as soon as he gets into business.
    There should be many more bans in the Polish law, such as "this and that is not allowed in business activity". Therefore, I encourage you to vote for the appropriate parties. Even if Lewiatan and other anti-Polish bodies were to shout that it was "an attack on the economy and economic freedom." Since the Polish mentality is the same, certain behaviors must be legally enforced.
    For now, it looks like we are passively surrendering to the dictates of thieves' cables and platforms. The cost of living in Tuskoland is rising and rising. And wages?
  • #18 12616828
    kierbedz4
    Level 36  
    In an interview with an energy specialist at the Housing Cooperative about mounting an antenna on the roof and equipment for receiving digital TV for the entire 4-frame block of 40 apartments, it is possible with the approval of all residents of the block and the cost per apartment was initially estimated at about PLN 400
  • #19 12616959
    kaem
    Level 29  
    For the so-called of the commune nobody asked anyone for their opinion. AZART (with the VHF radio, which is forgotten today) belonged to everyone like a pig's trough. And today great problems, consultations, community meetings. And some absurd amounts of PLN 400 per face (and then PLN 20-30 a month).
    And cable and platform managers are only laughing at how the goys are messing about with this DVB-T.
    In my opinion, when it comes to RTV installations in multi-family buildings, Poland is moving backwards rather than developing. I cannot see any progress here. For you, there is a bidoku for 80 zeta a month (a German pays an average of 17 euros - and the difference in earnings?). Pay and cry. Socialism and cheap AZARTs are over.
    Can't a decent AZART with DVB-T and VHF-FM be as obligatory as the electrical and water supply? And if someone wants to have a necessarily expensive cable with 200 programs, who defends whom? And order yourself, rich man. But don't force everyone around to this cable.
  • #20 12616993
    fidotp
    Level 23  
    Four hundred is a lot.
    My block is the only one with one antenna (I changed Azart myself) and on the others it is a thicket of cables and nets.
    It was PLN 50 per apartment (12 families).
    Obviously it's just the cost of hardware and cables, I only earned 4 breweries.
    But unmerciful joy.
  • #21 12617112
    kierbedz4
    Level 36  
    In Toruń, the Na Skarpie Housing Cooperative, with the entry of the cable TV, dismantled and sold all Azarti antennas with masts, and if you want to rebuild your digital infrastructure, you have to start from scratch.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenges of receiving DVB-T television signals in multi-family blocks with collective antennas. Users express frustration over the inability to receive digital channels, primarily due to outdated collective antenna systems that are not compatible with modern DVB-T broadcasts. Suggestions include using individual antennas, such as the AWS-143ST internal amplifier, and the need for modernization of existing installations. Some users report successful installations of individual antennas, while others highlight the high costs associated with upgrading collective systems. The conversation also touches on the legality and ethics of companies charging for access to digital signals that are otherwise free.
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