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Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief

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  • #1 12440866
    SetnyGosc
    Level 10  
    Hello

    I recently bought a car from DE. The car is now on metal plates with a blue stripe, but without stickers / holograms - only plates with the number.

    I was looking for information on the web about what the entry in a small brief should look like, informing that the car has been checked out in DE. I just found something like this:

    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief

    However, I am concerned that I do not have a stamp with the words "Außerbetriebsetzung" on it.
    A friend also bought a car in DE and in his small brief it was the same as in the picture above. I, however, have only a stamp with the date and a round stamp with the signature as in the picture above, but without the stamp "Außerbetriebsetzung".

    Is such an entry enough to not have problems with fees and then with the registration of vehicles in PL?

    Thank you in advance for your response,
    Best wishes,
    Tom
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  • #2 12440930
    jerry1960
    Level 36  
    Approach or call the Department of Communications for your area of residence and ask at the source.
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  • #3 12441588
    krocze
    Level 25  
    SetnyGosc wrote:
    The car is now on metal plates with a blue stripe, but without stickers / holograms

    So it stands on German plates, the way it moves there? If so, it must have stickers, and if it is not, it is probably bought on Allegro, they will sell them there, they will stamp every number for you, and even stickers will be stuck on. Check if the plates are consistent with those in the Brief in the last position, if so, the seller rather scammed, because when deregistered, they would no longer be on the car. As for "ausserbetriebsetzung", it should be included in the smaller Brief, because it means exclusion from traffic, i.e. deregistration, and this is the basis for registration. Unless the stamp is in the box for this purpose, then it does not need to be additional written confirmation. If, however, the car was deregistered, the blue plates would have to be passed in Germany, as it is done with us, when the car is deregistered. I suppose the seller bought the plates in Poland in order to be able to use it as a partisan, but this is just a guess. However, to register in the country, you need to deregister the car abroad or a document confirming the purchase of exit plates, because you only get them when the car is checked out there.
  • #4 12441847
    SetnyGosc
    Level 10  
    The numbers agree with the brief, but there is no trace of the stickers. So, most likely, the plates were already bought in Poland, as you say.

    In my small brief, in the same place there is an identical stamp with the date + identical round stamp + signature of the official (of course, a different signature) as here on the photo marked in red:

    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief

    I mean, is the stamp with the words "Außerbetriebsetzung" needed for something or is what I have (ie date + stamp with signature) enough?
  • #5 12441897
    krocze
    Level 25  
    It must be clearly marked or entered in the Brief: Außerbetriebsetzung, Abgemeldet, or Ungültig. After all, if you give a translator, he will translate what he sees. If you want, paste your screenshot here and I will translate what is stored there.

    There are two types of Brief, depending on how young your car is, or Fahrzeugschein or Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil I, i.e. the first part of the proof, and on its second side there should be this stamp and a clear record that the vehicle has been deregistered, whether in the form of a stamp or print. I doubt they will forget about it when checking out. So either you have it printed in Brief I, or something is related to the car. Call Germany (you take the phone from Google, and the city is stamped) and ask, using the last registration number of the vehicle from the Brief, whether the car is checked out. Just remember from which dealer you bought the car, to thank him if necessary.
  • #6 12441952
    SetnyGosc
    Level 10  
    I have Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil I and Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil II.

    In Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil I (i.e. a small brief) it looks like this for me:

    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief
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  • #7 12441980
    krocze
    Level 25  
    None of the fields is marked (neither temporary nor final deregistration of the car), but the stamp is in the right place (page), so there should be no problems with registration. The question of what is hidden under these deleted fields, is there one of the words I mentioned above.
    PS. a car from Berlin is not the best choice.
  • #8 13074640
    sebass.pl
    Level 11  
    Why not the best from Berlin?
    Do they drive there differently?
  • #10 15299821
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    In Berlin, cars from all over Germany are sold on Teilestrasse :) and they drive.
  • #11 15300485
    Wyroox
    Level 2  
    I still have a few questions because they don't answer me anywhere, maybe someone will answer me here
    1-When buying a car from Germany from a dealer in Poland, what papers should I get when signing a contract with a commission, so that the vehicle is ready for registration?
    2-If I wanted to pay the fees myself, would a purchase-sale contract with a commission shop or his contract with Germany be enough?
  • #12 15300832
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    You write a contract for Halli Malli Phalli from Berlin or the last of the brief.
  • #13 15344998
    maniek1001
    Level 2  
    Hello. Taking the opportunity, I also have a question if my car is checked out, I will add that the car was bought without plates

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief
  • #14 15345197
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #15 15346415
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Yes, but when you buy from Turas in Berlin or elsewhere, you will not get any contract, then you get the papers and load the car on a tow truck. When buying at a commission shop in DE also not always.
  • #16 16102455
    Danny87
    Level 12  
    What does the green sticker shown above by a friend of Wyroox mean? This is the first time I see something like this
  • #17 17293459
    McBoss
    Level 14  
    I would like to connect to the topic and ask if there is a checkout on this ID ??

    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief
  • #19 17515138
    santorynxd
    Level 7  
    Hello, old topic but refreshing :D I bought a car from Germany from a Polish trader.

    in this small brief I have the date 05/10/2018, X in the liquidation field and some number. Below is the signature of the official and the stamp of the office. There is no seal in this circular place, such a circular seal is beyond check-out. Could it be so? I have heard that each office does it differently but German accuracy would allow for the lack of this stamp?
  • #20 17642436
    Pieczatki

    Level 7  
    2711318 wrote:
    Version for people who want to sleep well:
    A Polish trader, commission, should present you with the proof of the excise duty paid within these two weeks from the crossing of the Polish border by the vehicle, write down the purchase and sale agreement with you and hand over the exit plates. If not, turn on your heel.

    However, if you are 'hardcore' then continue:
    The trader / commission gives you an 'in-blanco' contract (signed by a supposedly German "Halli Malli Phalli from Berlin or the last of the brief" = anyone, most often the trader or colleague himself signs on behalf of the German). As a consequence, the commission / trader does not pay the tax and his name does not appear in the documentation you receive = he washes his hands. From that moment on, you are left alone with your acquisition and the false contract.
    You do not get the plates because they are usually issued to the trader, he will ask you to write down a statement that the vehicle was brought without plates, which they do not want to believe in the Communication Departments, but they turn a blind eye.

    There is still the moral hangover that by spending your own money you go so far as to counterfeit.

    In extreme cases, which I have only read about, it may happen that you have bought an expensive vehicle, paid for Autocasco, the vehicle is destroyed, and the insurer will not refund you a penny, because by checking the continuity of contracts, it will find the trader's name and detect your forgery - which is even punishable.

    I recommend that you read about 'buying for a German' and if you like this way, it's ok.
    I just want to warn people who are unaware of such silliness.


    Why a moral hangover? Will anyone cry over this?
  • #21 17725518
    Zlociutkii
    Level 1  
    Does this mean that the car is checked out of the country for good?
    Is it enough as a certificate of deregistration in the office in PL?


    Checking out a car in DE - what the stamp should look like in the brief
  • #22 17744346
    CezaryL
    Level 13  
    Hello
    This car has been definitively deregistered, and "at the office - Zulassungstelle".
    There is an entry that has been printed.
    You can now check-out in Germany in more and more cities by yourself without leaving your home via the Internet. As proof, there is a sticker torn off, as in the picture. There you will find the code you need to check out online.
  • #23 19708899
    nick126p
    Level 10  
    If I can connect to the subject, in this large proof, such as A4 sheet, on the date of the last registration, the date is 16/06/2021 and on the small proof there is the date of check-out 08 III 2021 how should it be read or is it in May?
  • #24 19710108
    CezaryL
    Level 13  
    Maybe try posting a picture, maybe then I'll understand the question.
  • #25 19710933
    nick126p
    Level 10  
    I am attaching a photo of a small brief
  • #26 19711301
    CezaryL
    Level 13  
    This is the "Fahrzeugschein", the registration certificate. Unfortunately, probably in office. The small sticker was torn off and despite the blurring of the code there, it was used to unregister remotely (via the Internet). At the same time, for a policeman, in the event of an inspection, a legible code means that the car has been deregistered and has no right to drive on the roads. But someone who did not know exactly the German regulations issued a stamp, as if the deregistration had been traditionally done in a toothbrush. But then this sticker would not be damaged.
    greetings
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  • #27 19711372
    adam7009

    Level 41  
    nick126p wrote:
    08 IIIII 2021 how to read it or is it May?
    08 JULI 2021 JULI = July
  • #28 19711887
    nick126p
    Level 10  
    CezaryL wrote:
    This is the "Fahrzeugschein", the registration certificate. Unfortunately, probably in office. The small sticker was torn off and despite the blurring of the code there, it was used to unregister remotely (via the Internet). At the same time, for a policeman, in the event of an inspection, a legible code means that the car has been deregistered and has no right to drive on the roads. But someone who did not know exactly the German regulations issued a stamp, as if the deregistration had been traditionally done in a toothbrush. But then this sticker would not be damaged.
    greetings


    So what's wrong with this proof? the car is checked out or not? and how should I interpret it combined? How can you check if everything is ok in Germany?

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    adam7009 wrote:
    nick126p wrote:
    08 IIIII 2021 how to read it or is it May?
    08 JULI 2021 JULI = July


    IIIII - how is this five lines supposed to indicate JULI July?
  • #29 19711984
    adam7009

    Level 41  
    Can't you see that the date stamp is not exactly reflected?
    The lines are not the same height, they are missing at the bottom.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the process of verifying the deregistration of a car purchased from Germany (DE) and the necessary documentation for registration in Poland (PL). The main concern is the absence of the "Außerbetriebsetzung" stamp on the small brief, which indicates that the vehicle has been deregistered. Participants suggest contacting the local Department of Communications for clarification and emphasize the importance of having clear documentation, including the correct stamps and entries in the Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil I (small brief). They note that the absence of the stamp could lead to complications during registration in Poland. Additionally, there are discussions about the reliability of purchasing cars from Berlin and the potential for scams involving undocumented sales.
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