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Englishman Car for Parts: Registration, Demolition, Legalities & Selling on Auction Site in PL

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  • #1 17312723
    matheo999
    Level 2  
    Hello, I read many topics but there was no definitive answer, and well explained is all I want to know. The case is that on one auction site there is an Englishman at an attractive price, after consulting the seller it is a car without the right to register, intended for parts, as he wrote. I would like to buy this car, dismantle it and sell it for parts with the help of Facebook groups or allegro / olx. I need help, what does this involve, what does it eat. Are there any fees for this car? Excise? The car is in PL, imported by the seller. How not to fill up, which contract to draw up, a sales contract is enough? How do you know that your vehicle is not stolen? The second issue is the demolition of this car, apparently illegal in Poland, how to protect yourself from "denunciations"? This is the same thing as when I would like to transfer a bumper, fenders, engine to my car from a purchased Englishman, I can't? As for business and taxes, I have to pay something so that the tax office does not visit me? I am asking for information on how it looks.
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  • #2 17312913
    melas
    Level 31  
    Take a logical think. Business is the basis, cash register in your shop, purchase invoices and further invoices or sales receipts. You show profit, you pay a lot of money. And certainly excise duty must be paid and to be able to disassemble the car you must have a dismantling station registered. It's good morning.
  • #3 17312931
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    matheo999 wrote:
    apparently not legal

    Just as illegal as, for example, changing your oil yourself.
  • #4 17312993
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Think to yourself. You will sell a motorbike, a gearbox, and shed for scrap metal. What about the rest? You pay for garbage collection and you earn nothing on this business. Unless you throw upholstery, plastics and soundproofing into the woods
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  • #5 17313007
    Machetereal
    Level 13  
    Such cars from Uk without the right to register are people simply dismantle and sell these parts on portals and now. Nobody is playing any excise duties because what is the point? You will not register it. Whether it pays off is another matter, it depends on the car, I know a few people who English British non-stop import and no one is after them. It is a time-consuming and long-term occupation during sales because there is not always a customer for a given part, but it can be profitable. If you put it all together, you will sell all the parts and there won't be much left.
  • #6 17313013
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Without registration, it means that it has been scrapped and bought back from the scrap yard owner.
  • #7 17313227
    matheo999
    Level 2  
    On Facebook groups, a multitude of people sell their cars, whether after an accident or damaged for parts, and nobody seems to chase them for it so what is it like?
    If I bought this car and stayed with me for half a year, I can't sell it without tax, just like with items on the allegro?

    I need this car to get out of it: wheels, bumpers, steering wheel, seats for myself mainly, I can not?
    After consulting the seller, he tells me that I come, pay and take the car without any contracts, what do you think about it?
    I talked to him a little and like I would like I can on a sale and purchase agreement.
    How would it be best, with or without a contract, to somehow secure yourself? This deal goes somewhere later? I guess he just stays in my house and his?
  • #8 17313278
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    I would write a contract. When the tiger brigade comes in and announces the breakup of a new "hollow", you have at least some point of support.
    The contract goes nowhere. Write it down: I buy a body with VIN number ......., engine with number ....... and what else are you buying there - I would enter larger parts.
  • #9 17313333
    matheo999
    Level 2  
    sanfran wrote:
    I would write a contract. When the tiger brigade comes in and announces the breakup of a new "hollow", you have at least some point of support.
    The contract goes nowhere. Write it down: I buy a body with VIN number ......., engine with number ....... and what else are you buying there - I would enter larger parts.


    Do you have a pattern? All in all this would be the best, there would be no problem with the fact that the engine is next to the car body, because that's how I bought it, as a part and not a car, write something else there? Don't you want to break up on suspension, doors etc.?
  • #10 17313522
    xray81
    Level 22  
    You think all those Allegro and OLX sellers are so honest and by law they sell parts, they usually don't pay excise duties or taxes. Only the bigger ones from the Allegro sell for a receipt or invoice but they usually run scrap yards or have large workshops and earn some extra money. If you want it to be more reliable, at least write the contract as sanfran wrote.
  • #11 17313975
    melas
    Level 31  
    Good Change everywhere sniffs. Start selling, you'll see, maybe it will work or it won't work. With one car, you won't give a damn what it will return, because how much you sell it, and the rest will be constant.
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  • #12 17314392
    k124l
    Level 20  
    Just don't make yourself miscalculated. The cost-effectiveness depends on the car make and model. When you hit the unwanted merchandise, you'll be hanging around with lots of time. About 3 years ago I undressed the cart - to this day, parts that have not sold are still falling in the corners.
  • #13 17314471
    janek1815
    Level 38  
    kortyleski wrote:
    You pay for garbage collection and you earn nothing on this business. Unless you throw upholstery, plastics and soundproofing into the woods


    We take these things for free twice a year with dimensions. I undressed an Englishman once. Smaller things are known every month I put out a bag with such and goes without problems along with other PET bags, etc.
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  • #15 17315700
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Quote:
    and many car parts that are considered harmful to the environment

    What I just wrote about. Because any oil used from engine oil is one of those ...
  • #16 17315906
    nici
    Moderator Chiptuning
    In our country, farting will still be illegal ...
  • #17 17316929
    xray81
    Level 22  
    Inkwizycja wrote:
    Demolition by yourself without having the appropriate permits is illegal. Here is an example of such a "businessman": https://www.asta24.pl/2017/11/13/przywozil-rozbieral-ople-anglii-sellawal-czesci/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > https://www.asta24.pl/2017/11/13/przywozil-rozbieral-ople-anglii-sellawal-czesci/ .

    They caught one because he was probably annoyed by a customer or neighbor who denounced and tens of thousands of raccoons are still illegal. That it would pay to be legal, they would have to close all illegal traders because they are lowering prices and spoiling the market. This is the same as with legal workshops and sheds at various Mietków.
  • #18 17317115
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    xray81 wrote:
    That it would pay to be legal, they would have to close all illegal traders because they are lowering prices and spoiling the market. This is the same as with legal workshops and sheds at various Mietków.

    To legally scrape and cut cars, invest about PLN 100,000, but it will pay off.
  • #19 17318081
    xray81
    Level 22  
    100,000 is not enough for you to go to the junkyard as if you were to start from scratch. If you already have a site and a workshop with storage space, you can try on a small scale.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the legalities and practicalities of purchasing a non-registered English car for parts in Poland. Users highlight the necessity of having a registered dismantling station to legally disassemble vehicles and the potential need to pay excise duties. Many participants note that while selling parts from such cars is common, it often occurs without adherence to legal requirements, leading to risks of penalties. The importance of drafting a sales contract to protect against future legal issues is emphasized, particularly to document the purchase of specific parts. Concerns about the legality of self-demolition and the risk of denunciation are also raised, with suggestions to ensure compliance with local laws. The profitability of this venture is debated, with some cautioning about the time and effort required to sell parts effectively.
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